Buying my first 911 - A choice of two, please help

[jackliebling]

I paid about the same for my 991S but mine was a 2013, from an OPC with 2 years Porsche warranty.

If you could negotiate for them to add an official 2 year guarantee I think it would be a decent deal...

[jackliebling]

But I would say this, don't be totally swayed by the 991 over the Cayman. The Cayman is probably more fun to drive and the interior is virtually the same ( a bit cheeky of Porsche IMHO considering the price difference). The only reason I have a 991 is that I need the back seats for the dog!! The Cayman is an awesome car, so if it were more suitable for me I'd be in one of those...

[Por-sche]

I am waiting to hear about some negotiations... Then will make a decision. I'm extremely impatient when I know what I want : )
I agree with the cayman points and I know its a better handling car... Although the look of the 911 for me is just perfect. Style over drive this time.

[Por-sche]

Another quick question / piece of mind.

I currently own a VW Golf R, 2.0L V4 engine, 295 bhp... If I decided to go with the 'non S' based on price and Style, do you think I would be dissapointed with its performance? I did drive the S but didnt open it up in the slightest. I rarely even drive my car beyond 3k RPM

Isnt it funny how things spiral out of control and you keep asking yourself 'is this going to be enough'... Especially when I was considering a 2.7 Cayman initially, not I 'need' a 400bhp engine

[Trev450]

I think you've answered your own question. It you rarely go beyond 3000 rpm, clearly performance isn't of primary importance so why pay more for the S.

[Por-sche]

Trev450 said:

I think you've answered your own question. It you rarely go beyond 3000 rpm, clearly performance isn't of primary importance so why pay more for the S.

I like being reassured I guess. I love having power on tap, but to be honest 300 bhp is enough for me. I am probably a little too scared of thrashing it around local roads... and will never ever take it on a track as rather wreck someone else's 911 than my own.

I have a manual Golf R too, I assume I will notice a fair performance increase between that and a PDF Carrera?

[Soov535]

Por-sche said:

Trev450 said:

I think you've answered your own question. It you rarely go beyond 3000 rpm, clearly performance isn't of primary importance so why pay more for the S.

I like being reassured I guess. I love having power on tap, but to be honest 300 bhp is enough for me. I am probably a little too scared of thrashing it around local roads... and will never ever take it on a track as rather wreck someone else's 911 than my own.

I have a manual Golf R too, I assume I will notice a fair performance increase between that and a PDF Carrera?

Golf R will be almost the same performance wise

[Adam B]

Por-sche said:

Another quick question / piece of mind.

I currently own a VW Golf R, 2.0L V4 engine, 295 bhp... If I decided to go with the 'non S' based on price and Style, do you think I would be dissapointed with its performance? I did drive the S but didnt open it up in the slightest. I rarely even drive my car beyond 3k RPM

er OK, buy a 2.7 Cayman and save a packet then - and are you sure you are on the right website?

[AAD44H]

Non S for me. Looks nicer to!

[paul0843]

I am also in the market for a 991.
I would say having followed the market for the last few months
S spec cars do seem to sell easier.
Also not massive price differentials between indies and opcs on price.
I would try and buy from Opc.
Paul

[jackliebling]

Ok, I had a similar recent car history. My previous car was a BMW m135i (similar to Golf R).

The power delivery is very different, the m135i and Golf R are turbo charged so the thrust below 3k rpm is very different from a naturally aspirated Porsche 3.6. I think the torque is more important in this case. You'll have to drive a Porsche harder for the same performance...

Not meaning to piss on your parade, BUT, I definitely would not buy a NON S for any more then £60k....

[ATTAK Z]

Al's 991 said:

Click on my Al's 991 and take a look at my favourite colour.

Mine too

[Por-sche]

Adam B said:

er OK, buy a 2.7 Cayman and save a packet then - and are you sure you are on the right website?

Ha yes. I just love the 991 shape. Imo it's the best looking car around. Cayman is a super car but I just prefer the 911 by quite a long way and although it's 15k more than a well specced Cayman S it'll obviously be worth more and the other end.

[Por-sche]

jackliebling said:

Ok, I had a similar recent car history. My previous car was a BMW m135i (similar to Golf R).

The power delivery is very different, the m135i and Golf R are turbo charged so the thrust below 3k rpm is very different from a naturally aspirated Porsche 3.6. I think the torque is more important in this case. You'll have to drive a Porsche harder for the same performance...

Not meaning to piss on your parade, BUT, I definitely would not buy a NON S for any more then £60k....

OK point noted. For me it's not just performance. In fact the style and sound come above performance for me... at least for now with a limited and already stretched budget.

If you can find me a nice PDK standard Carrera for under 60k let me know... they are not easy to find. A few low spec higher mileage ones around but not much else. Although there was a black carrera manual with 40k miles for 56k at porsche reading. No extras other than Nav and Sports Exhaust

[jackliebling]

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

[jackliebling]

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

[jackliebling]

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

[jackliebling]

plenty available...

[DJMC]

Do you NEED rear seats?

Why not buy the nicer looking (imo), better handling, 981 Cayman AND a 981 Boxster too, for your £65k?

OR, buy a 997 and drive an arguably better car with cash to spare?




Untitled by David Chapman, on Flickr

Edited by DJMC on Tuesday 24th May 12:15

[Por-sche]

jackliebling said:

plenty available...

Point taken. Although like I said its not a Porsche dealer and wont have a great warranty I assume? Have a look on Porsche approved used and you are not getting any Carrera under 60k really...