LPG Installer East Anglia
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Dear All,
Am considering an LPG installation.
Several hour's worth of research on the net has already thrown up an industry not regulated, full of smoke and mirrors - with the ability to ruin an otherwise decent V6 if the installation is a can of worms.
So, my simple question is, can anyone give me feedback on a decent supplier and installer of an LPG system from the Norfolk/Suffolk region?
Many thanks in Advance
Am considering an LPG installation.
Several hour's worth of research on the net has already thrown up an industry not regulated, full of smoke and mirrors - with the ability to ruin an otherwise decent V6 if the installation is a can of worms.
So, my simple question is, can anyone give me feedback on a decent supplier and installer of an LPG system from the Norfolk/Suffolk region?
Many thanks in Advance
Hey,
Ty for that. I did call the chappie and found him very informative. His main downside was the quoted price: £1800 or, £2000 if I wanted the manifold taken off to ensure no swarf got in the engine when he drilled it.
I had expected more like £1200 for the service so a wee bit stumped now how to play it!
Ty for that. I did call the chappie and found him very informative. His main downside was the quoted price: £1800 or, £2000 if I wanted the manifold taken off to ensure no swarf got in the engine when he drilled it.
I had expected more like £1200 for the service so a wee bit stumped now how to play it!
There is no need to drill the inlet manifold these days, you can just use injector risers for most engines.
Here are couple of threads of cars I converted using these risers. They are brilliant things!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
(LPG install starts on page 4)
And more recently I converted my e63 using the same things
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I must do an update on this thread...
You can get them here for some engines
http://www.autogas-lpg.co.uk/-quick-fit-gas-feed/6...
Or give me a shout as I have an account with a supplier in Germany that does them for most cars.
Yeah, £1800-2000 for a v6 is a probably bit strong - well depending on what car it is and what kit you choose... For half decent components, you are probably looking around £7-800 all in. A quality install will take one man 3 days give or take, so based on that he's charging 350ish per day. Not ridiculous as he will no doubt have overheads, but not cheap...
Here are couple of threads of cars I converted using these risers. They are brilliant things!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
(LPG install starts on page 4)
And more recently I converted my e63 using the same things
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I must do an update on this thread...
You can get them here for some engines
http://www.autogas-lpg.co.uk/-quick-fit-gas-feed/6...
Or give me a shout as I have an account with a supplier in Germany that does them for most cars.
Yeah, £1800-2000 for a v6 is a probably bit strong - well depending on what car it is and what kit you choose... For half decent components, you are probably looking around £7-800 all in. A quality install will take one man 3 days give or take, so based on that he's charging 350ish per day. Not ridiculous as he will no doubt have overheads, but not cheap...
re the home install: how easy is it to diagnose the ECU and/or change the mapping?
I've got a BRC system on my Saab and 4 times this week, it has shut itself off mid run. I am wondering if I got a bad fill of gas (first time I had used that particular place) - does it store error codes?
I also think I should be able to tweak a little more economy out of it.
I've got a BRC system on my Saab and 4 times this week, it has shut itself off mid run. I am wondering if I got a bad fill of gas (first time I had used that particular place) - does it store error codes?
I also think I should be able to tweak a little more economy out of it.
kurt535 said:
Many thanks for this.
Now my alarm bells are ringing in that he didn't mention the non-invasive installation route.
You sound a handy sort of person which sadly Im not otherwise yes, I would defo home install.
Clearly more investigation needs to be done reading your threads.
Ty for this
They are not completely non-invasive, as it raises the fuel rail by 10mm, so I have had to cut into air filter housings etc, but it is certainly less permanent than drilling the inlet. The guy in Reepham may just not have heard of them or may have his reasons for not using them...Now my alarm bells are ringing in that he didn't mention the non-invasive installation route.
You sound a handy sort of person which sadly Im not otherwise yes, I would defo home install.
Clearly more investigation needs to be done reading your threads.
Ty for this
Need_A_Username said:
re the home install: how easy is it to diagnose the ECU and/or change the mapping?
I've got a BRC system on my Saab and 4 times this week, it has shut itself off mid run. I am wondering if I got a bad fill of gas (first time I had used that particular place) - does it store error codes?
I also think I should be able to tweak a little more economy out of it.
You need to get a interface cable (preferably usb) and the software. Be aware though that some installers put a password on the ECU, we had this trouble with a mates car in Eindhoven. I've got a BRC system on my Saab and 4 times this week, it has shut itself off mid run. I am wondering if I got a bad fill of gas (first time I had used that particular place) - does it store error codes?
I also think I should be able to tweak a little more economy out of it.
But yeah, the software is fairly self explanatory, and for the bits you don't understand, there are some really helpful folk on the LPG forum - they've helped me many times! My ECU keeps basic error logs, but it is a Romano ECU from about 10 years ago. I guess more modern systems will have better log management. Diagnostic is pretty good, you can run 1 or more cylinders on petrol, the others on lpg etc...
kurt535 said:
well, the hunt goes on..
spoke to another company in norwich: minimum of £1500 and they drill wiithout removing manifold,...that has to concern me! i keep hearing about the uklpg association which as far as i can see is merely a trade club...
Exactly that, although they refer to themselves as the official UK LPG authority, and would presumably get rather stroppy if you called them anything otherwise. They hold a database of converted cars that the insurance industry refer to. Unregulated nonsense, but you are unlikely to get insurance without their 'official' certificate.spoke to another company in norwich: minimum of £1500 and they drill wiithout removing manifold,...that has to concern me! i keep hearing about the uklpg association which as far as i can see is merely a trade club...
If the inlet is plastic, then I guess it's not much of a problem. Certainly wouldn't want an ally one done that way though...
Utterpiffle said:
Ah yeah, I remember that. Can't use yahoo/hotmail/gmail etc. I had to use my domain email.
Daft...
Still trying...still failing to register.Daft...
OTOH, I put half a tank of Morrisons LPG into it and it ran for 120miles without issue.
Utterpiffle said:
Exactly that, although they refer to themselves as the official UK LPG authority, and would presumably get rather stroppy if you called them anything otherwise. They hold a database of converted cars that the insurance industry refer to. Unregulated nonsense, but you are unlikely to get insurance without their 'official' certificate.
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FYI NFU Mutual were happy to insure me without a certificate - I just told them that it was professionally converted..
They are a good insurance co,
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