Potentially looking for a 996 Turbo
Discussion
9e 28 said:
Oh he didn't nick your Orient car for circa £30k (now worth circa £55k + as only a few made in that beautiful colour). Now I understand his call sign! And he has the cheek to complain!!
9e would only put OEM or OEM supplier/equivalent like Serco or maybe Girodisc which are better than OEM. You need the GT3/997 Turbo caliper and 350mm disc set up Red Devil. From memory yours is running circa 500bhp! Lovely car you lucky devil. I advised davek not to sell on this very forum.
Thank you sir, I took it into Porsche Edinburgh the other day to collect parts, the workshop virtually emptied,9e would only put OEM or OEM supplier/equivalent like Serco or maybe Girodisc which are better than OEM. You need the GT3/997 Turbo caliper and 350mm disc set up Red Devil. From memory yours is running circa 500bhp! Lovely car you lucky devil. I advised davek not to sell on this very forum.
all raving on about the shade, they had never seen one, I do keep it ultra detailed..
55k would not buy it.....Greedy devil I am, what would I replace it with?
The Red Devil said:
9e 28 said:
Oh he didn't nick your Orient car for circa £30k (now worth circa £55k + as only a few made in that beautiful colour). Now I understand his call sign! And he has the cheek to complain!!
9e would only put OEM or OEM supplier/equivalent like Serco or maybe Girodisc which are better than OEM. You need the GT3/997 Turbo caliper and 350mm disc set up Red Devil. From memory yours is running circa 500bhp! Lovely car you lucky devil. I advised davek not to sell on this very forum.
Thank you sir, I took it into Porsche Edinburgh the other day to collect parts, the workshop virtually emptied,9e would only put OEM or OEM supplier/equivalent like Serco or maybe Girodisc which are better than OEM. You need the GT3/997 Turbo caliper and 350mm disc set up Red Devil. From memory yours is running circa 500bhp! Lovely car you lucky devil. I advised davek not to sell on this very forum.
all raving on about the shade, they had never seen one, I do keep it ultra detailed..
55k would not buy it.....Greedy devil I am, what would I replace it with?
Also love what you've done with the centre console delete and colour code - looks fantastic and really lifts the whole interior - very clever indeed. I've also done the alcantara to gator and steering wheel and changes the whole feel of the car - surprising how such a small detail makes such a meaningful difference to feel IMO. Make sure whoever does it uses the exact cloth Porsche uses.
I wouldn't bother on the power upgrade until your turbos need a refurb as 500bhp plenty of power! When the turbos need replacing/refurbing its basically the same cost to refurb them to hybrid spec and you can choose any power level you like between 500bhp and 800bhp sticking with K16 hybrids. 650bhp about the right figure for road but you can ask 9e for a race map for full 800bhp if you ever do any top speed events.
I've been trying to persuade Ken / 9e to open in Scotland. OPC Glasgow and Edinburgh have it their own way and I really do not rate either of them in terms of customer service. In fact many OPC service depts have got complacent with little or enthusiasm for the product IMO. Not talking about the engineers more the sales and service desks.
The Red Devil said:
Still to do,
sunroof switch which does not bother me as you just fiddle with it
air con needs recharged
other fixes of issues I inherited
At some point in the past the rear bumper was repainted, however they neglected to plug back in the no plate lights
so I dont know how it was passing mots?
It's not the switch. As I explained when I sold it, when I was having the O2 sensors done the mechanics were told to replace the sunroof module because I was confident that was the cause. However, they replaced the switch and - because the sunroof "worked" - thought they had solved it, even though in reality it was doing exactly the same as before they replaced the switch. The work was done by a mechanic I trust but who specialise in a different marque - unfortunately the waiting time to get into Porsche specialists for the O2 sensors / sunroof was too long given that I wanted to sell the car.sunroof switch which does not bother me as you just fiddle with it
air con needs recharged
other fixes of issues I inherited
At some point in the past the rear bumper was repainted, however they neglected to plug back in the no plate lights
so I dont know how it was passing mots?
It may not have got through an MOT since the bumper was painted - I can't remember when exactly I had that done, but it was definitely towards the end of my period of ownership. Since I sold it in May - and I think the MOT is due Sept? - it's quite possible it was done after the last MOT it had with me.
9e 28 said:
I've been trying to persuade Ken / 9e to open in Scotland. OPC Glasgow and Edinburgh have it their own way and I really do not rate either of them in terms of customer service. In fact many OPC service depts have got complacent with little or enthusiasm for the product IMO. Not talking about the engineers more the sales and service desks.
The fact that indies in Midlands and Northwest of England are servicing cars still within OPC warranty age bears testament to that. Poor show.As for Red Devil's car, I've already got a 996tt, but was tempted by those pictures. It is a very nice looking motor.
It's not for sale, i get a few calls a week and I say it's not for sale, it's only on the site as a lead in.
It's a hard sell too, 80% won't buy a modded car due to ignorance or fear, and the price I would want for it makes it cost prohibitive. For me too replicate this car in the current climate would cost too much and unlikely to find a low owner model with as comprehensive a history, in that colour, in this condition.
I have no interest in doing the Ferrari thing, or really anything other than Porsche really, so what does one do?
Many argue that the 997t is better, for me the 6T blends old school with a touch of new, it hits the sweet spot.
The 991 T looks awesome, I had one for a day and it was not any faster than mine really aside off the take with launch control, which you bore of quickly, I was glad to get back into the manual after it.
As 9E says, the answer for power junkies is more power and I take your comments onboard, brake upgrade as suggested and then change the Turbos down the line.
My brother put an exhaust on his, I don't like it, I really enjoy the quiet unobtrusive sound, it's stealth, and not shouty, I hear that 9E have a fabalous exhaust mind you...
I bloody wish they would open up further North too, the business they would get would show a return on set up costs in no time...
It's a hard sell too, 80% won't buy a modded car due to ignorance or fear, and the price I would want for it makes it cost prohibitive. For me too replicate this car in the current climate would cost too much and unlikely to find a low owner model with as comprehensive a history, in that colour, in this condition.
I have no interest in doing the Ferrari thing, or really anything other than Porsche really, so what does one do?
Many argue that the 997t is better, for me the 6T blends old school with a touch of new, it hits the sweet spot.
The 991 T looks awesome, I had one for a day and it was not any faster than mine really aside off the take with launch control, which you bore of quickly, I was glad to get back into the manual after it.
As 9E says, the answer for power junkies is more power and I take your comments onboard, brake upgrade as suggested and then change the Turbos down the line.
My brother put an exhaust on his, I don't like it, I really enjoy the quiet unobtrusive sound, it's stealth, and not shouty, I hear that 9E have a fabalous exhaust mind you...
I bloody wish they would open up further North too, the business they would get would show a return on set up costs in no time...
Glasgow OPC has to be the worst customer service in the country
Edinburgh, so far great, especially the parts guys.
And Dave, your car was great when I bought it however you now see the shortcomings and potential it had..
It's only when you start to look really hard and that comes with experience of owning thousands of sports cars over
25 years, as opposed to just a handful. And I mean thousands, I traded 20 cars a month for 10 years, less prior to that and the last 5 years handle smaller numbers.
Edinburgh, so far great, especially the parts guys.
And Dave, your car was great when I bought it however you now see the shortcomings and potential it had..
It's only when you start to look really hard and that comes with experience of owning thousands of sports cars over
25 years, as opposed to just a handful. And I mean thousands, I traded 20 cars a month for 10 years, less prior to that and the last 5 years handle smaller numbers.
The Red Devil said:
heated seats switches relocated to tunnel
interesting, I always wondered whether that could be done when I was looking at 996 turbos as:a) I have a pet hate of blank switches, and the coupe has two blanks on the centre tunnel (used for rear windows on cab i believe)
b) the heated seat switches are in a dumbass place on the 996t (only slightly improved on 997t) and on centre console (you know, near the seats) is a much better place
was it simple to do?
Juddder said:
Wednesday bump, as I'm going to see a Slate Grey on Saturday, Auto not Manual unluckily, but all the rest are positives and nicely within budget
The Red and Blue ones in the thread earlier at the Turbo garage look amazing BTW - would love to find one of those!
Just get a PPI, whatever.The Red and Blue ones in the thread earlier at the Turbo garage look amazing BTW - would love to find one of those!
If you read what the Red Devil posted and also what I've previously posted, good car or not, a turbo can generate hefty bills with ease. Go in with your eyes open and it is far less of an issue.
The nature of the Turbo owner is he is always ready and prepared to spend.
Same as any used car that you try to put 100 % correct I suppose.
In my experience and having witnessed many PPIs being done on my cars, these guys only inspect, they are not super car owners so they miss loads, they are largely not familiar, for instance a PPi on my car would not have highlighted the clutch, it takes the correct road and a degree of irresponsibility to test a tuned car to the max, and of course experience of how it should feel, a tester would not dare open it up like that.
Same as any used car that you try to put 100 % correct I suppose.
In my experience and having witnessed many PPIs being done on my cars, these guys only inspect, they are not super car owners so they miss loads, they are largely not familiar, for instance a PPi on my car would not have highlighted the clutch, it takes the correct road and a degree of irresponsibility to test a tuned car to the max, and of course experience of how it should feel, a tester would not dare open it up like that.
Adam B said:
interesting, I always wondered whether that could be done when I was looking at 996 turbos as:
a) I have a pet hate of blank switches, and the coupe has two blanks on the centre tunnel (used for rear windows on cab i believe)
b) the heated seat switches are in a dumbass place on the 996t (only slightly improved on 997t) and on centre console (you know, near the seats) is a much better place
was it simple to do?
Childs play.a) I have a pet hate of blank switches, and the coupe has two blanks on the centre tunnel (used for rear windows on cab i believe)
b) the heated seat switches are in a dumbass place on the 996t (only slightly improved on 997t) and on centre console (you know, near the seats) is a much better place
was it simple to do?
Crimped the wiring, extended it and soldered, back on the plugs went, switches into the blankers, tucked it up and under the tunnel.
30 mins work
The Red Devil said:
The nature of the Turbo owner is he is always ready and prepared to spend.
Same as any used car that you try to put 100 % correct I suppose.
I think, with the 996 turbo, my maintenance OCD has finally met a match in terms of requirements!Same as any used car that you try to put 100 % correct I suppose.
The Red Devil said:
In my experience and having witnessed many PPIs being done on my cars, these guys only inspect, they are not super car owners so they miss loads, they are largely not familiar, for instance a PPi on my car would not have highlighted the clutch, it takes the correct road and a degree of irresponsibility to test a tuned car to the max, and of course experience of how it should feel, a tester would not dare open it up like that.
No, but things like 2nd gear pop-out are easy to spot if you know how and easy to miss for the uneducated. then, any decent PPIer will also have seen more Porsches and likely more 996 turbos than the buyer.Given the modest fee (compared to potential costs), even if it only unearths some routine maintenance requirement - e.g. heat shields - it is both a good bargaining tool and a good starting point for the buyer.
Digga said:
o, but things like 2nd gear pop-out are easy to spot if you know how and easy to miss for the uneducated. then, any decent PPIer will also have seen more Porsches and likely more 996 turbos than the buyer.
Given the modest fee (compared to potential costs), even if it only unearths some routine maintenance requirement - e.g. heat shields - it is both a good bargaining tool and a good starting point for the buyer.
Yes very good point, we agree that specialist cars need specialist attention and know how, and that sometimes means steering clear of OPC.Given the modest fee (compared to potential costs), even if it only unearths some routine maintenance requirement - e.g. heat shields - it is both a good bargaining tool and a good starting point for the buyer.
I have stopped obliging the request by people to have the cars checked by OPC, partly due to the fact that they take a video of the underside
and when you do that to a 40 yr old air cooled car they all look bad unless restored underneath, which is a big task with deep pockets, so a great
driving car that is solid car can be made look really bad with that. And, they miss all sorts of things, the customer buys the car and has it checked
properly by an Indi, and guess who the bad guy is, not worth the hassle.
Customer knows best they say.
Just had a quick browse of this thread with interest (not been on PH for a good while now!)
I've had my 996 Turbo for nearly seven years now. Love it.
Just one point of note, a Golf R wouldn't get near a 911 Turbo. I have a brand new DSG one and yes, it's very quick, yes it would probably get off the line quicker if using the launch control but the 13 year old Porsche would soon pass it easily.
I'd like to ask while I'm here - mine is a 2003 X50 car, factory fitted aero-kit, manual transmission, seal grey with black embossed sports seats, some silvery bits (eg on the steering wheel) four brand new tyres and full service history including a recent major service and MOT, 80K miles and an all round very clean and good looking car. It is a third car with no expense spared; not looking at selling to be honest but I guess everything has a price. What would it be worth as a ball-park, approximate figure?
I've had my 996 Turbo for nearly seven years now. Love it.
Just one point of note, a Golf R wouldn't get near a 911 Turbo. I have a brand new DSG one and yes, it's very quick, yes it would probably get off the line quicker if using the launch control but the 13 year old Porsche would soon pass it easily.
I'd like to ask while I'm here - mine is a 2003 X50 car, factory fitted aero-kit, manual transmission, seal grey with black embossed sports seats, some silvery bits (eg on the steering wheel) four brand new tyres and full service history including a recent major service and MOT, 80K miles and an all round very clean and good looking car. It is a third car with no expense spared; not looking at selling to be honest but I guess everything has a price. What would it be worth as a ball-park, approximate figure?
NumberoftheBeast said:
Just had a quick browse of this thread with interest (not been on PH for a good while now!)
I've had my 996 Turbo for nearly seven years now. Love it.
Just one point of note, a Golf R wouldn't get near a 911 Turbo. I have a brand new DSG one and yes, it's very quick, yes it would probably get off the line quicker if using the launch control but the 13 year old Porsche would soon pass it easily.
I'd like to ask while I'm here - mine is a 2003 X50 car, factory fitted aero-kit, manual transmission, seal grey with black embossed sports seats, some silvery bits (eg on the steering wheel) four brand new tyres and full service history including a recent major service and MOT, 80K miles and an all round very clean and good looking car. It is a third car with no expense spared; not looking at selling to be honest but I guess everything has a price. What would it be worth as a ball-park, approximate figure?
One on PH going for £39990. Not an X50 but has the Aero Kit I've had my 996 Turbo for nearly seven years now. Love it.
Just one point of note, a Golf R wouldn't get near a 911 Turbo. I have a brand new DSG one and yes, it's very quick, yes it would probably get off the line quicker if using the launch control but the 13 year old Porsche would soon pass it easily.
I'd like to ask while I'm here - mine is a 2003 X50 car, factory fitted aero-kit, manual transmission, seal grey with black embossed sports seats, some silvery bits (eg on the steering wheel) four brand new tyres and full service history including a recent major service and MOT, 80K miles and an all round very clean and good looking car. It is a third car with no expense spared; not looking at selling to be honest but I guess everything has a price. What would it be worth as a ball-park, approximate figure?
Edited by Moosh on Wednesday 1st June 17:42
NumberoftheBeast said:
Just had a quick browse of this thread with interest (not been on PH for a good while now!)
I've had my 996 Turbo for nearly seven years now. Love it.
Just one point of note, a Golf R wouldn't get near a 911 Turbo. I have a brand new DSG one and yes, it's very quick, yes it would probably get off the line quicker if using the launch control but the 13 year old Porsche would soon pass it easily.
I'd like to ask while I'm here - mine is a 2003 X50 car, factory fitted aero-kit, manual transmission, seal grey with black embossed sports seats, some silvery bits (eg on the steering wheel) four brand new tyres and full service history including a recent major service and MOT, 80K miles and an all round very clean and good looking car. It is a third car with no expense spared; not looking at selling to be honest but I guess everything has a price. What would it be worth as a ball-park, approximate figure?
There is this barrier I have found with mileage and its anything over 70k that causes problems, the I've had my 996 Turbo for nearly seven years now. Love it.
Just one point of note, a Golf R wouldn't get near a 911 Turbo. I have a brand new DSG one and yes, it's very quick, yes it would probably get off the line quicker if using the launch control but the 13 year old Porsche would soon pass it easily.
I'd like to ask while I'm here - mine is a 2003 X50 car, factory fitted aero-kit, manual transmission, seal grey with black embossed sports seats, some silvery bits (eg on the steering wheel) four brand new tyres and full service history including a recent major service and MOT, 80K miles and an all round very clean and good looking car. It is a third car with no expense spared; not looking at selling to be honest but I guess everything has a price. What would it be worth as a ball-park, approximate figure?
end user will ant to add say 10k to it and then has a car with 80k.
I reckon you can ask 45k for it, despite the mileage, someone will buy into the X50 thing, and
if and when advertised it has 79k does it no? sounds better, a dealer would try and nick it for 35k
Digga said:
Just get a PPI, whatever.
If you read what the Red Devil posted and also what I've previously posted, good car or not, a turbo can generate hefty bills with ease. Go in with your eyes open and it is far less of an issue.
Will definitely do the PPI (Prior Purchase Inspection - had to look that up) - anyone got any recommendations around the London area? ThanksIf you read what the Red Devil posted and also what I've previously posted, good car or not, a turbo can generate hefty bills with ease. Go in with your eyes open and it is far less of an issue.
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