718 PASM or SPASM?
Discussion
how much harder is the ride in normal mode with SPASM over PASM? and in sport mode?
i'm thinking of speccing SPASM on a CS but for me it's because i like the look of it rather than because i need a racier set up.
i will be trying them both out before committing but would like to hear from those of you that have experienced both.
wheels will most likely be 20".
i'm thinking of speccing SPASM on a CS but for me it's because i like the look of it rather than because i need a racier set up.
i will be trying them both out before committing but would like to hear from those of you that have experienced both.
wheels will most likely be 20".
My 981 Cayman has 20's and PASM.
Far more compliant than the standard ride around town and at speeds up to motorway limits. Less crashy.
I'd only use it in "Sport" mode at high speeds on an autobahn say, or if pressing on.
It's one of the best "chance" options I wasn't really looking for but couldn't now do without.
Far more compliant than the standard ride around town and at speeds up to motorway limits. Less crashy.
I'd only use it in "Sport" mode at high speeds on an autobahn say, or if pressing on.
It's one of the best "chance" options I wasn't really looking for but couldn't now do without.
I doubt you'll find many who've driven a 718 with PASM and SPASM, it'll depend what the dealer demos have. You may need to ring around and see if you can find places who have one or both of each.
For an all rounder I'd go PASM. If you're going to be tracking it a fair amount then go for SPASM. I personally don't see the need for a lower, harsher ride on the current poorly maintained UK roads!
For an all rounder I'd go PASM. If you're going to be tracking it a fair amount then go for SPASM. I personally don't see the need for a lower, harsher ride on the current poorly maintained UK roads!
I have PASM too but 19" wheels. I can (and do) use Sport mode most of the time unless I'm cruising - and ride (on PZeros) is still good unless the road is really bad. In Normal the ride is genuinely better than a lot of saloons and any hot hatch I've driven. So my personal view is that (for me) 19" + PASM is a great combination. I'm not sure who has driven a SPASM equipped car. I shall be having a 718 for the day tomorrow and will report - but the local OPC only has one so it will come with whatever it comes with.
On my 981 2.7 Cayman with 20 inchers the ride is jiggly. The winter 18's were lovely and if I were keeping this car I'd stick on the 18's.
Test drove a standard 718 Boxter on 20s without PASM and it was a bit smoother than our Cayman.
Drove a 718s Boxter with 20s with PASM and it was the best for comfort out of all 3.
For the 718 I'm about to order I'm going belt and braces with 19 inch plus PASM which I thinks gives the best compromise between looks and comfort plus the option of changing to winter tyres without having to change the wheel.
The 718s above are Boxsters. The salesman said he thinks Caymans are a tad stiffer but make of this what you will.
The other point about the 20s is they crunch a lot, particularly pulling out of my drive. Apart from marginal aesthetics I can't really see the point of 20s.
Test drove a standard 718 Boxter on 20s without PASM and it was a bit smoother than our Cayman.
Drove a 718s Boxter with 20s with PASM and it was the best for comfort out of all 3.
For the 718 I'm about to order I'm going belt and braces with 19 inch plus PASM which I thinks gives the best compromise between looks and comfort plus the option of changing to winter tyres without having to change the wheel.
The 718s above are Boxsters. The salesman said he thinks Caymans are a tad stiffer but make of this what you will.
The other point about the 20s is they crunch a lot, particularly pulling out of my drive. Apart from marginal aesthetics I can't really see the point of 20s.
Sparkyhd said:
On my 981 2.7 Cayman with 20 inchers the ride is jiggly. The winter 18's were lovely and if I were keeping this car I'd stick on the 18's.
Test drove a standard 718 Boxter on 20s without PASM and it was a bit smoother than our Cayman.
Drove a 718s Boxter with 20s with PASM and it was the best for comfort out of all 3.
For the 718 I'm about to order I'm going belt and braces with 19 inch plus PASM which I thinks gives the best compromise between looks and comfort plus the option of changing to winter tyres without having to change the wheel.
The 718s above are Boxsters. The salesman said he thinks Caymans are a tad stiffer but make of this what you will.
The other point about the 20s is they crunch a lot, particularly pulling out of my drive. Apart from marginal aesthetics I can't really see the point of 20s.
You mean they crunch at full lock, skipping over the surface?Test drove a standard 718 Boxter on 20s without PASM and it was a bit smoother than our Cayman.
Drove a 718s Boxter with 20s with PASM and it was the best for comfort out of all 3.
For the 718 I'm about to order I'm going belt and braces with 19 inch plus PASM which I thinks gives the best compromise between looks and comfort plus the option of changing to winter tyres without having to change the wheel.
The 718s above are Boxsters. The salesman said he thinks Caymans are a tad stiffer but make of this what you will.
The other point about the 20s is they crunch a lot, particularly pulling out of my drive. Apart from marginal aesthetics I can't really see the point of 20s.
The new Boxster S 19" wheels look pretty good at £1214...
Cayman S 19's still fairly good looking...
Carrera S 20's. Are they worth the £1700?...
thanks for the input. i don't want to compromise comfort so sounds like i should stick to PASM which is what i've already specced. i thought it was worth asking as the cost difference between the two is neglibible and i will phone around to see if i can find a Boxster with SPASM to try just to be sure.
regarding wheel size, the problem going with 19s on a CS is that choice is so limited. at least with the 20s you can choose between different styles and colour combos. it does feel like i'm being forced into choosing 20s though and i would happily go for 19" Carrera Sports in black if they were available.
regarding wheel size, the problem going with 19s on a CS is that choice is so limited. at least with the 20s you can choose between different styles and colour combos. it does feel like i'm being forced into choosing 20s though and i would happily go for 19" Carrera Sports in black if they were available.
JasonSteel said:
i do like the Cayman 19" but i'm a sucker for dark wheels on the Cayman...
I think that means Carrera S 20's only?...
Untitled by David Chapman, on FlickrDJMC said:
I think that means Carrera S 20's only?...
the Carrera Sports are available in the same colours. the thing with the Sports is that they are part polished too, so you see the shape of the wheel a lot better.that car you posted looks great though. i know i shouldn't be but i'm almost dreading the day i have to finalise my order... still not sure on colour or wheels.
thing is in real life things look so much better than on that configurator so it's hard to make a decision based on that. i'd never go for silver based on the configurator but it looks great in pics and even better in the metal.
i'm being called in when some Carrera Sports arrive at my local OPC to have a look at them.
Edited by JasonSteel on Wednesday 8th June 18:43
JasonSteel said:
the Carrera Sports are available in the same colours. the thing with the Sports is that they are part polished too, so you see the shape of the wheel a lot better.
that car you posted looks great though. i know i shouldn't be but i'm almost dreading the day i have to finalise my order... still not sure on colour or wheels.
thing is in real life things look so much better than on that configurator so it's hard to make a decision based on that. i'd never go for silver based on the configurator but it looks great in pics and even better in the metal.
i'm being called in when some Carrera Sports arrive at my local OPC to have a look at them.
Carrera Sports are 20" - thought you were going for 19"?that car you posted looks great though. i know i shouldn't be but i'm almost dreading the day i have to finalise my order... still not sure on colour or wheels.
thing is in real life things look so much better than on that configurator so it's hard to make a decision based on that. i'd never go for silver based on the configurator but it looks great in pics and even better in the metal.
i'm being called in when some Carrera Sports arrive at my local OPC to have a look at them.
Edited by JasonSteel on Wednesday 8th June 18:43
On the configurator, if you spec any wheel other than Carrera S and then try to add "wheels painted" the spec is changed back to Carrera S and your choice of wheels removed. Are you sure it's not just the Carrera S wheel that can be had painted?
DJMC said:
Appreciate a well composed pic.Alex
DJMC said:
Carrera Sports are 20" - thought you were going for 19"?
JasonSteel said:
regarding wheel size, the problem going with 19s on a CS is that choice is so limited. at least with the 20s you can choose between different styles and colour combos. it does feel like i'm being forced into choosing 20s though and i would happily go for 19" Carrera Sports in black if they were available.
i'd prefer the 19s, but i like the dark wheels and they're only available in 20s 
DJMC said:
On the configurator, if you spec any wheel other than Carrera S and then try to add "wheels painted" the spec is changed back to Carrera S and your choice of wheels removed. Are you sure it's not just the Carrera S wheel that can be had painted?
it's working for me. looks naff on the std configurator but honestly if i had to rely on the configurator i wouldn't be buying a Porsche.
OMV said:
Hello all
Any thoughts on ride quality with the 18" wheels, and if PASM would still improve ride quality further? (Need it anyway for PTV though haha)
It appears impossible to test drive 18" before buying...
I have 18" rims for my 981S (for winter tyres), which came with Goodyear Eagles. I did a back to back test of the Eagles with my N0 Pirellis which are on 19" rims. So not the same tyre so don't read too much into my findings. My car has PASM. The car did have a better ride on 18" rims - hardly noticeable at the back, more so at the front. That is to be expected, likewise the car felt looser on the 18" rims. It had a bit more steering feel. How much is down to the tyre change I'm not sure, but I'd certainly put the ride down to the rim size. However the car understeered more, which I hated. And regarding ride PASM makes it so good on 19s that the gain in that area was of little value to me. So for me keeping 19" rims was an easy choice. Any thoughts on ride quality with the 18" wheels, and if PASM would still improve ride quality further? (Need it anyway for PTV though haha)
It appears impossible to test drive 18" before buying...
Having tried 20" rims too imo 19s are the optimum size for the 981 - and I didn't like the ride on a non-PASM 718 on 20" rims either.
OMV said:
Hello all
Any thoughts on ride quality with the 18" wheels, and if PASM would still improve ride quality further? (Need it anyway for PTV though haha)
It appears impossible to test drive 18" before buying...
Non PASM sits between Sport and Comfort settings on PASM and when combined with 18s it is very forgiving both for poor road surfaces and stopping your worrying about wheel damage, the 18 Eagles also come with a rim protector and are great for the badly maintained country roads I drive on. You have probably noticed it is highly down to preference but in my opinion 18s on passive is forgiving and will save you money to spend on other options or elsewhere. To look at I think the 19s look best, some of the 20s options look crap imho.Any thoughts on ride quality with the 18" wheels, and if PASM would still improve ride quality further? (Need it anyway for PTV though haha)
It appears impossible to test drive 18" before buying...
Edited by Krobar on Sunday 26th February 14:09
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