997 GTS - Hexagon

997 GTS - Hexagon

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Cheib

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23,113 posts

174 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Porsche911R said:
It's down to miles prices can range fron £40k to £75k just on miles on the GTS now.]
the JZM car IS THE RIGHT GTS spec ie half Alcantara and with the leather dash option, the only spec I would go for and only 13k miles, the real GTS spec.

it's the right spec,the right gearbox, the right owners and 13k miles hence the price.
Add in Bose, xenons, sports crono and heated seats ,, perfect

They don't get any better than that car really.

I think you managed to also bag a great spec car, enjoy it, nothing else comes close in the Porsche range atm.

Edited by Porsche911R on Monday 4th July 10:16
All good points. Only car I'd even think about selling mine for is a Boxster Spyder at the moment and even then I am not sure I would.



kilarney

483 posts

222 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Cheib said:
Porsche911R said:
It's down to miles prices can range fron £40k to £75k just on miles on the GTS now.]
the JZM car IS THE RIGHT GTS spec ie half Alcantara and with the leather dash option, the only spec I would go for and only 13k miles, the real GTS spec.

it's the right spec,the right gearbox, the right owners and 13k miles hence the price.
Add in Bose, xenons, sports crono and heated seats ,, perfect

They don't get any better than that car really.

I think you managed to also bag a great spec car, enjoy it, nothing else comes close in the Porsche range atm.

Edited by Porsche911R on Monday 4th July 10:16
All good points. Only car I'd even think about selling mine for is a Boxster Spyder at the moment and even then I am not sure I would.

How strange I have the exact same sentiment the spyder has turned my head also. Likewise Im not sure.

andyc11

326 posts

131 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Even as a proud owner, not sure I'd have paid nearly £70k...although realise that's top whack and as pointed out, mileage dependent. Noticed the OPC network hasn't had any stock for a while though.

vxdave

148 posts

243 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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I know Hexagon had a manual 4 GTS with 23K miles that was up for nearly £70K is now sold.

Hobo

5,755 posts

245 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Appreciate 70k is a chunk of money, however what would owners replace thier cars with gir the same money if they sold ?

I've been offered very good money for mine (4GTS) and was tempted, but honestly couldn't figure what yo replace it with that didn't involve throwing another 30k+ into the mix.

13m

26,271 posts

221 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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Hobo said:
Appreciate 70k is a chunk of money, however what would owners replace thier cars with gir the same money if they sold ?

I've been offered very good money for mine (4GTS) and was tempted, but honestly couldn't figure what yo replace it with that didn't involve throwing another 30k+ into the mix.
Your first point is the nub of the problem.

I cannot see anything in the Porsche range that is as good and as well suited to my requirement as a 997 GTS, at any price. Which worries me a little bit quite honestly because I've driven Porsches for years and I can see no upgrade path. I genuinely think Porsche has lost the plot with the 991.





andyc11

326 posts

131 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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Hobo said:
Appreciate 70k is a chunk of money, however what would owners replace thier cars with gir the same money if they sold ?

I've been offered very good money for mine (4GTS) and was tempted, but honestly couldn't figure what yo replace it with that didn't involve throwing another 30k+ into the mix.
Very good point. Only thing that jumps out at me that's Porsche is a GT3 (991), but for the money they're still at I'd seriously struggle to not buy a 12C. The 12C is probably the only thing I'd consider as a replacement, but very happy to stick with the GTS at the moment.

nick francis

858 posts

260 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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rob.kellock said:
I bought one of them!

Very very pleased so far.


Great choice Rob!

Cheers
Nick

andyc11

326 posts

131 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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Go on then, another pic.

Cheburator mk2

2,973 posts

198 months

Wednesday 6th July 2016
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Cheib said:
All good points. Only car I'd even think about selling mine for is a Boxster Spyder at the moment and even then I am not sure I would.
Totally pointless car if you would want to do any mileage in it like a long-distance Euro trip. Barchetta Boy on here had one. We took it to the Ring for a track day. Lovely engine, lovely box, lovely design touches. Nice driving experience too. BUT... Noisy at any speed, and getting unpleasant at anything over 80mph. For a short blat, yes, for sure it is exhilarating, but very tiresome on a 4hr journey from Calais to Nurburg. There was no way I would have been happy to drive this thing to the South of France or to the Alps.

The GTS on the other hand looks stunning - my neighbor has had a black Cabrio PDK from new in 2011, sounds good and does everything well. The Spyder is a one trick pony sadly...

I am awaiting Demon to tell me I know nothing about Coxsters and how wrong the gearing on my GT3 is...

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Wednesday 6th July 2016
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lol one trick pony is good if a weekend car and you want that trick, Spyders always a 2nd or 3rd car in the stable, but I took mine to Spa and it was great, one wears ear plugs :-)

GTS is a great car, one of Porsche best but alas not good enough for a 2nd car for fun.

If one only wants one great car then at £45k the R still wins and for £65k the GTS wins. pair one of those with a 987.2 Spyder for fun or a Lotus 250cup and all is good.

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 6th July 12:42

Cheib

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23,113 posts

174 months

Wednesday 6th July 2016
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Hah. My GTS is a second car and almost never sees a motorway....typical use is for an hour or two at a time on B roads or country lanes. Can't see it being used for European jaunts etc as I have two young kids and my European trips are four up with the ski gear in our X5.

So what you both said in a roundabout way is trade it for a Boxster Spyder! The fact it has extra seats does mean at the margin it gets used a bit more as I can take both kids out in it.

Still can't see me selling it but I really, really like the Spyder.

sanjoyp

62 posts

280 months

Wednesday 6th July 2016
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Sorry for the hijack but whilst I have some GTS owners looking. I have an option on an OPC 2012 25k 997 C4 PDK GTS Cab, ballpark I should be looking to pay?

Tia

S

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Wednesday 6th July 2016
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Pay what you are happy with

PDK Er nope
C4 Er nope
Cab Er nope

The big money cars are C2 manual coupes.
If I wanted a automatic I would move onto the gen 2 PDK cars in a 991 which are light years ahead for an auto over gen 1 PDK.

Don't see the point paying big money on that sort of spec just because it's a GTS , but that's just me.

13m

26,271 posts

221 months

Thursday 7th July 2016
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Porsche911R said:
Pay what you are happy with

PDK Er nope
C4 Er nope
Cab Er nope

The big money cars are C2 manual coupes.
If I wanted a automatic I would move onto the gen 2 PDK cars in a 991 which are light years ahead for an auto over gen 1 PDK.

Don't see the point paying big money on that sort of spec just because it's a GTS , but that's just me.
Not sure about the big money cars being manual. Coupe, yes.

Whilst I agree the 991 PDK moves the game on and some of the other tech is useful, the 991 as a package is not as good a car as the 997 IMHO. Which probably explains why there are no 997 GTSs about.




Cheib

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23,113 posts

174 months

Thursday 7th July 2016
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sanjoyp said:
Sorry for the hijack but whilst I have some GTS owners looking. I have an option on an OPC 2012 25k 997 C4 PDK GTS Cab, ballpark I should be looking to pay?

Tia

S
What's the spec ? Does it have Alcnatara, Leather Dash, Bose etc etc

I'd say £60k tops.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Thursday 7th July 2016
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13m said:
Not sure about the big money cars being manual. Coupe, yes.

Whilst I agree the 991 PDK moves the game on and some of the other tech is useful, the 991 as a package is not as good a car as the 997 IMHO. Which probably explains why there are no 997 GTSs about.
you don't have to wait long for a PDK car to come up, while finding a manual is rocking horse st. gen 1 PDK does really feel old over the new cars, the point in buying a GTS imo is for the full older stering feel and "interaction", not buying an outdated Automatic ! at the daft prices the GTS is !

when you say not as good a package, most people like newer cars and the 991 GTS is a very nice car, going older is ok if you go manual, but I would take a 991 PDK GTS every time over a PDK 997 GTS.



Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 7th July 09:29

sanjoyp

62 posts

280 months

Thursday 7th July 2016
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Cheib said:
What's the spec ? Does it have Alcnatara, Leather Dash, Bose etc etc

I'd say £60k tops.
• 19 Inch RS Spyder Wheels With Centre Lock
• Porsche Communication Management (PCM)
• Navigation Module
• Sport Chrono Package Plus
• Side Skirts In Platinum Silver Metallic
• Heated Seats
• Cruise Control
• Park Assist
• Porsche Crest Embossed On Head Restraints
• Silver Grey Seat Belts
• Spoiler Lip Painted
• Illuminated Stainless Steel Outer Door-Sill Guards

Can recall what the dash is, stock photo.



Big E 118

2,408 posts

168 months

Thursday 7th July 2016
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I think an OPC would have it up for near £65k, £60k through and indie.

Cheib

Original Poster:

23,113 posts

174 months

Thursday 7th July 2016
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sanjoyp said:
Cheib said:
What's the spec ? Does it have Alcnatara, Leather Dash, Bose etc etc

I'd say £60k tops.
• 19 Inch RS Spyder Wheels With Centre Lock
• Porsche Communication Management (PCM)
• Navigation Module
• Sport Chrono Package Plus
• Side Skirts In Platinum Silver Metallic
• Heated Seats
• Cruise Control
• Park Assist
• Porsche Crest Embossed On Head Restraints
• Silver Grey Seat Belts
• Spoiler Lip Painted
• Illuminated Stainless Steel Outer Door-Sill Guards

Can recall what the dash is, stock photo.


Decent spec, Bose is missing which is a popular option. It's not black or white which in itself makes it a rare car! I reckon more than 50% are in those colours....

The car has the plastic dash which some people don't like, the leather dash definitely lifts the interior and you also get a bit more alcantara with it (glove box). Photo of my car's interior below which does have it.



Maybe I am being harsh with £60k tops but it's not a £65k car even at an OPC. You can always get an official Porsche warranty but would have to pay for it. It's not a spec of car you should have to pay up for. Trade bid would be mid £50k's absolute max, an OPC would not pay much over book for that car.


Edited by Cheib on Thursday 7th July 12:41