997 GTS - Hexagon
Discussion
andyc11 said:
Just seen a thread on PCGB, owner selling his 20k mile coupe, manual, rear seat delete, sports chassis with PCCBs for £57k. OPC offered him £55.5k so no offers. If anyone interested and can't get on the PCGB thread let me know.
That is a really good value car...also has an OPC warranty until next year. I'll be staggered if someone doesn't buy that. I'd be all over that like a cheap suit.
Porsche911R said:
13m said:
Not sure about the big money cars being manual. Coupe, yes.
Whilst I agree the 991 PDK moves the game on and some of the other tech is useful, the 991 as a package is not as good a car as the 997 IMHO. Which probably explains why there are no 997 GTSs about.
you don't have to wait long for a PDK car to come up, while finding a manual is rocking horse sWhilst I agree the 991 PDK moves the game on and some of the other tech is useful, the 991 as a package is not as good a car as the 997 IMHO. Which probably explains why there are no 997 GTSs about.
t. gen 1 PDK does really feel old over the new cars, the point in buying a GTS imo is for the full older stering feel and "interaction", not buying an outdated Automatic ! at the daft prices the GTS is !when you say not as good a package, most people like newer cars and the 991 GTS is a very nice car, going older is ok if you go manual, but I would take a 991 PDK GTS every time over a PDK 997 GTS.
Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 7th July 09:29
Ref the 991 PDK, I've had two of them and I till prefer the 997.
Hobo said:
Notice a couple more 997gts up at Hexagon with asking prices of 75k & 73k.
At this rate they be worth more than the 991 equivalent in a few months ....
The manual cab that is up at £75k is the one I started this thread about. Sure it's a very rare car being a manual cab but it's actually got a pretty poor spec. The dreaded plastic dash! At this rate they be worth more than the 991 equivalent in a few months ....
On the subject of the plastic dash you never, ever see the leather dash listed as an optional extra (when present) and it certainly wasn't listed as one in the spec of my car.
Did it become a standard fit at some stage in the GTS's life?
Cheib said:
The manual cab that is up at £75k is the one I started this thread about. Sure it's a very rare car being a manual cab but it's actually got a pretty poor spec. The dreaded plastic dash!
The plastic dash doesn't offend me honestly. In fact I am not very keen on the alcantara lower dash on the "leather" cars.Cheib said:
Hobo said:
Notice a couple more 997gts up at Hexagon with asking prices of 75k & 73k.
At this rate they be worth more than the 991 equivalent in a few months ....
The manual cab that is up at £75k is the one I started this thread about. Sure it's a very rare car being a manual cab but it's actually got a pretty poor spec. The dreaded plastic dash! At this rate they be worth more than the 991 equivalent in a few months ....
On the subject of the plastic dash you never, ever see the leather dash listed as an optional extra (when present) and it certainly wasn't listed as one in the spec of my car.
Did it become a standard fit at some stage in the GTS's life?
Does the plastic dash really make much difference, I don't think that it is enough of a reason to reject a used car, after all they're about 5 years old now so a buyer has to accept a bit of compromise? It's not like the type of gearbox or colour, or choice between cab or coupe. For me, if I found two similar cars of the basic type that I want, and one was GT silver with plastic dash, the other was white with leather dash, it would be the plastic dash car that I'd be more interested in because personally I would prefer a GT silver car, and I don't think the plastic dash looks too bad.
(PS I want cheibs car at the price cheib paid
)
(PS I want cheibs car at the price cheib paid
)Jibaro said:
Does the plastic dash really make much difference, I don't think that it is enough of a reason to reject a used car, after all they're about 5 years old now so a buyer has to accept a bit of compromise? It's not like the type of gearbox or colour, or choice between cab or coupe. For me, if I found two similar cars of the basic type that I want, and one was GT silver with plastic dash, the other was white with leather dash, it would be the plastic dash car that I'd be more interested in because personally I would prefer a GT silver car, and I don't think the plastic dash looks too bad.
(PS I want cheibs car at the price cheib paid )
I was looking at my (plastic) dash this morning wondering what the fuss is all about. They look fine. It's not like they're cheap s(PS I want cheibs car at the price cheib paid
)te like an entry-level French hatchback or something. They look solid and well-finished. There are things I'd have specced differently about my GTS, but the dash isn't one of them. It's a non-issue as far as I am concerned.with a drop in GT4 prices and a rise in GTS prices one would now really have to think about a GT4 over a 5 year old GTS.
GTS is a great sweet spot for £65k with sub 10k miles, but more than that or more miles, then a GT4 has to be worth a look in.
These rising prices will price it out the market place.
GTS is a great sweet spot for £65k with sub 10k miles, but more than that or more miles, then a GT4 has to be worth a look in.
These rising prices will price it out the market place.
Porsche911R said:
with a drop in GT4 prices and a rise in GTS prices one would now really have to think about a GT4 over a 5 year old GTS.
GTS is a great sweet spot for £65k with sub 10k miles, but more than that or more miles, then a GT4 has to be worth a look in.
These rising prices will price it out the market place.
One is not a substitute for the other.GTS is a great sweet spot for £65k with sub 10k miles, but more than that or more miles, then a GT4 has to be worth a look in.
These rising prices will price it out the market place.
crystalmethod said:
I don't think so. I bought an one of the last ones, and chose from two un-registered ones in different OPCs. One had plastic, and the other had leather, so am guessing it remained an option until the end.
I had exactly the same options when buying mine - a choice of new unregistered cars, with full leather or without. Made my choice based on colour (boring meteor grey, but it still looks nice) and gearbox (manual short shift). Would have bought the car with or without full leather (it came with). I'm surprised at the upward movement in prices and question whether this is just another round of Porsche speculation, which won't last. Having said that, the 997 GTS is still a bargain when compared to a similarly specced 991, particularly if you want to stay with manual.Jibaro said:
Does the plastic dash really make much difference, I don't think that it is enough of a reason to reject a used car, after all they're about 5 years old now so a buyer has to accept a bit of compromise? It's not like the type of gearbox or colour, or choice between cab or coupe. For me, if I found two similar cars of the basic type that I want, and one was GT silver with plastic dash, the other was white with leather dash, it would be the plastic dash car that I'd be more interested in because personally I would prefer a GT silver car, and I don't think the plastic dash looks too bad.
(PS I want cheibs car at the price cheib paid )
The plastic dash doesn't bother me one bit at 6.5k RPM. OK, it's not the prettiest thing in the world but after waiting 6 months to find the 'perfect' spec compromises were needed. I'd probably still be looking now 2.5 years down the line if I didn't budge on it. I'd never reject a car because of the dash material myself. (PS I want cheibs car at the price cheib paid
)Jibaro said:
Does the plastic dash really make much difference, I don't think that it is enough of a reason to reject a used car, after all they're about 5 years old now so a buyer has to accept a bit of compromise? It's not like the type of gearbox or colour, or choice between cab or coupe. For me, if I found two similar cars of the basic type that I want, and one was GT silver with plastic dash, the other was white with leather dash, it would be the plastic dash car that I'd be more interested in because personally I would prefer a GT silver car, and I don't think the plastic dash looks too bad.
(PS I want cheibs car at the price cheib paid )
Agree I'd rather have a GT Silver car all day long!(PS I want cheibs car at the price cheib paid
)And yes I was very lucky. Just caught it when I was stuck in a hotel room on a business trip, before it hot PH or Autotrader.
On the GT4/GTS I imagine the GT4 is a considerably more hardcore drive? I rarely use the sport dampers as our country lanes don't need anything firmer than the normal setting. Superb car but maybe too hardcore for me.
It's also probably at least a £25k cost to change for me, I doubt trade bids are £60k yet. Witness the car on the PCGB Forum with a £55.5 k from an OPC.
Jibaro said:
I fancy a GTS, but the prices have got a bit too rich for me, such that the non-GTS Carrera's with good spec are looking better value now, or the early 991's. I've "over-invested" a bit in my current car so probably shouldn't even be looking 
These prices being quoted are top end. If you are interested in a 997 GTS then look at more realistic mileages of 25k plus and you'll see much better value cars. Mine was a slightly higher mileage when I bought it and it was high £40's in price.The cars at £75k are mad, although the GTS is a very good car it is still a mass produced non GT 911 which is two generations (counting 991 n/a and 991 turbo'd) old.....although if anyone is willing to pay me £75k for a slightly leggy but well spec'd GTS I'd be happy to sell!
PS, the ones with plastic dash's are worth pocket change only.....
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