997 GTS - Hexagon

[Porsche911R]

Shame the 991V one is missing Sport crono really helps the PSM imo and aids throttle response.

[Cheib]

Porsche911R said:

Shame the 991V one is missing Sport crono really helps the PSM imo and aids throttle response.

Looks to me like it still has the Sport button so may have been retrofitted...so should have the throttle response and "more playful" PSM.

[CB 987]

The white 911V car was for sale back in Sept 15 @ £62,995 with an OPC, with just under 14k miles.

Will be interesting to know what it does end up selling for.

[Shaoxter]

A 997 GTS for £80k or 991 GTS for 10% more with half the miles...

[Cheib]

Shaoxter said:

A 997 GTS for £80k or 991 GTS for 10% more with half the miles...

Indeed but it's really about whether you want a manual 997 GTS or a PDK 991.1 GTS.

I don't think the manual 997 GTS is an £80k car despite loving mine. I also think the 997/991 debate is about whether you want manual or PDK. If you want manual I think it suits the 997 better and if you want PDK you try and stretch for the 991....especially because the PDK box is better in the 991.

PDK vs PDK is about a £20k price difference which makes more sense.

[chrisABP]

Shaoxter said:

A 997 GTS for £80k or 991 GTS for 10% more with half the miles...

Seemingly the 911 Virgin Manual 997 GTS at £79,995 wasn’t too much £££ and was a more attractive proposition to the PDK 991 GTS with 1/2 the miles as the 997 has sold! WOW!

[Porsche911R]

Yep to pick that over a £50k C2S or a GT4 is a tough buy so the buyer must have really wanted it. I see them as ok at £65k that’s all I would pay, other wise it’s one of the other 2 and as we both know chris if you want a small fun drivers car the R at £45k would be worth a look also.

[chrisABP]

Porsche911R said:

Yep to pick that over a £50k C2S or a GT4 is a tough buy so the buyer must have really wanted it. I see them as ok at £65k that’s all I would pay, other wise it’s one of the other 2 and as we both know chris if you want a small fun drivers car the R at £45k would be worth a look also.

Having been fortunate to own a 997 GTS, GT4 and now a Cayman R I can comment as follows:
997 GTS - without doubt a sweet spot in the affordable (non GT) 997 range, fantastic interior (if alcantara), great engine, good looks and all the ingredients of a proper feelsome 911. I bought mine at £61,000 and thought it good value for money. Arguably a low mileage manual car with good spec is a £70k car but I don't see it as an £80k car. I had mine for 2 years and made £5 profit! That's £5, not £5k! Not a bad return on my 1st 911 ownership experience.

GT4 - I paid £85k for a very high spec PCCB Clubsport car and loved the occasion of driving it, looked amazing, great gearbox, awesome brakes, average 'strangled' engine, annoying as f**k suspension noises and ultimately I sold after 11 months having never really fell for its charms. I'm sure as a track car with some geo mods it would be great but my needs are 99% road use.

Cayman R - Only had this car for 2 months and totally smitten by it so far. For the cost its exceptional and never in 25 years of driving have I experienced so much less offering so much more. Its packed with feel, feels tiny compared with my previous 2 (although its not that much smaller in reality!), lovely gearbox, sweet engine, amazing steering feel, great balance. In my opinion you can't buy a better Porsche in the £45-£50k price region as a fast road car, its got enough of everything it needs to make every drive an occasion and without the need of mega speeds and the risks they bring.

[GT4P]

chrisABP said:

Cayman R - In my opinion you can't buy a better Porsche in the £45-£50k price region as a fast road car, its got enough of everything it needs to make every drive an occasion and without the need of mega speeds and the risks they bring.

I have always maintained that a 987.2S is the best value Porsche you can buy, at nearly half the price (circa £25k)of a CR but 95% as good on the road in the right spec ie no PASM.
When I test drove a CR back in 2011 I found it only marginally better than my 987.1S on the road which was a 18" wheel non pasm car but I did worry that the engine could implode at anytime that's why I got rid so it's not a contender especially as late cars are still in the high teens!
So at £50k for a CR you could have CS and BS 987.2 ! But yes I love the 997gts but at £80k it's pricey but apart from 981spyder/Gt4 not a lot of other nice low units manual Porsches out there and it does look cheap up against the mega overpriced 997SC!

[Cheib]

Two hours since a post praising a Cayman R and 911R's not posted a foilow up ?!?! He's slipping!

Very much agree with this

chrisABP said:

Having been fortunate to own a 997 GTS, GT4 and now a Cayman R I can comment as follows:
997 GTS - without doubt a sweet spot in the affordable (non GT) 997 range, fantastic interior (if alcantara), great engine, good looks and all the ingredients of a proper feelsome 911. I bought mine at £61,000 and thought it good value for money. Arguably a low mileage manual car with good spec is a £70k car but I don't see it as an £80k car. I had mine for 2 years and made £5 profit! That's £5, not £5k! Not a bad return on my 1st 911 ownership experience.

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For me the 997 GTS as a manual car offers something the others don't....4 seats (means I can use it when out with both kids). I don't see it as an £80k car but there are only 100 of them and in "the right spec" quite a few less. I really love mine and it'll be interesting to see how it competes for attention with my 991.2 GT3 when it arrives. I still think I'll use it a good amount.

I was actually going to drive mine to Switzerland this weekend but winter proper is still with us (heavy snow forecast for when I arrive on Sat) and I don't have snow tyres on it so the Cayenne is going instead.

[chrisABP]

Cheib said:

Two hours since a post praising a Cayman R and 911R's not posted a foilow up ?!?! He's slipping!

Very much agree with this

chrisABP said:

Having been fortunate to own a 997 GTS, GT4 and now a Cayman R I can comment as follows:
997 GTS - without doubt a sweet spot in the affordable (non GT) 997 range, fantastic interior (if alcantara), great engine, good looks and all the ingredients of a proper feelsome 911. I bought mine at £61,000 and thought it good value for money. Arguably a low mileage manual car with good spec is a £70k car but I don't see it as an £80k car. I had mine for 2 years and made £5 profit! That's £5, not £5k! Not a bad return on my 1st 911 ownership experience.

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For me the 997 GTS as a manual car offers something the others don't....4 seats (means I can use it when out with both kids). I don't see it as an £80k car but there are only 100 of them and in "the right spec" quite a few less. I really love mine and it'll be interesting to see how it competes for attention with my 991.2 GT3 when it arrives. I still think I'll use it a good amount.

I was actually going to drive mine to Switzerland this weekend but winter proper is still with us (heavy snow forecast for when I arrive on Sat) and I don't have snow tyres on it so the Cayenne is going instead.

Think David might be busy driving his 991.2 GT3 to think about his lowly old Cayman R.....

That reminds me - I still have a set of 997 GTS Porsche winter wheels & tyres sat in the garage! Anyone looking for a set of genuine RS Spyder wheels in silver fitted with Pirelli SottoZero winter tyres..... They fit 997.2 GTS, 997.2 Turbo S, 997.2 GT3 and 997.2 GT3 RS, 997.2 GT2 - all 997 variants with centre locks.

[Cheib]

Just seen this pop up on RPM's stock alert

Manual, Carbon Buckets, 16k miles, Short Shifter.

Think it'll sell quickly even at £78k.

https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/997-gts-5/

[Shaoxter]

Cheib said:

Just seen this pop up on RPM's stock alert

Manual, Carbon Buckets, 16k miles, Short Shifter.

Think it'll sell quickly even at £78k.

https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/997-gts-5/

That looks really nice, great value if the recently posted ones are anything to go by. Those carbon buckets are sexual.

[chrisABP]

Shaoxter said:

Cheib said:

Just seen this pop up on RPM's stock alert

Manual, Carbon Buckets, 16k miles, Short Shifter.

Think it'll sell quickly even at £78k.

https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/997-gts-5/

That looks really nice, great value if the recently posted ones are anything to go by. Those carbon buckets are sexual.

That car looks lovely with arguably the best spec anyone could wish for. My guess is less than 10 cars with manual gearbox, carbon buckets and some of the other tasty options of extended leather to dash / doors.
Will be very surprised if this car isn't sold in days.
At Hexagon it would be £89,995!

[martinvantage]

That RPM car is sold - going overseas. It shouldn't be allowed!