997.2 Turbo 9E stage 2.

997.2 Turbo 9E stage 2.

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Paul_RH

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29 posts

93 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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I'm thinking of going for the above mentioned with my stock 997.2 turbo. I've already got a full Kline system with manifold headers (to fit). I just thought it would be a good time for a bit of tweakage whilst slapping in the new system. I don't want a gazillion bhp but +60 or so (from 500) would plump up the midrange a bit.

Any advice welcome and appreciated. Cheers, Paul.

9e 28

9,410 posts

200 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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I went 9e stage 4 and was over the moon on 997.1 turbo. Think it cost circa £20,995 + vat. Power went from 480bhp to 650bhp.

Ken at 9e might correct me but I believe on the 997.2 turbo you get approaching the same performance as above via a stage 2 for £5000-£6000 via a remap and zorst! Complete no brainer if you have a gen 2 turbo. Amazing cars. You'll be as fast as a Macca. Really livens the car up to how it should be from the factory. 991 turbo (even a tuned one) won't see which way you went as the 997.2 has bigger turbos than its newer brother evil

The Red Devil

251 posts

106 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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9e 28 said:
I went 9e stage 4 and was over the moon on 997.1 turbo. Think it cost circa £20,995 + vat. Power went from 480bhp to 650bhp.

Ken at 9e might correct me but I believe on the 997.2 turbo you get approaching the same performance as above via a stage 2 for £5000-£6000 via a remap and zorst! Complete no brainer if you have a gen 2 turbo. Amazing cars. You'll be as fast as a Macca. Really livens the car up to how it should be from the factory. 991 turbo (even a tuned one) won't see which way you went as the 997.2 has bigger turbos than its newer brother evil
Agree, and I read that on a post from Ken at 9E a while ago, a 997.2 mapped with a Zorst is virtually unbeatable.

9e 28

9,410 posts

200 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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The Red Devil said:
9e 28 said:
I went 9e stage 4 and was over the moon on 997.1 turbo. Think it cost circa £20,995 + vat. Power went from 480bhp to 650bhp.

Ken at 9e might correct me but I believe on the 997.2 turbo you get approaching the same performance as above via a stage 2 for £5000-£6000 via a remap and zorst! Complete no brainer if you have a gen 2 turbo. Amazing cars. You'll be as fast as a Macca. Really livens the car up to how it should be from the factory. 991 turbo (even a tuned one) won't see which way you went as the 997.2 has bigger turbos than its newer brother evil
Agree, and I read that on a post from Ken at 9E a while ago, a 997.2 mapped with a Zorst is virtually unbeatable.
Yes the gen 2 turbo is rapid basically because of the PDK. It literally only needs a map , exhaust and air filter as turbos are nice and big and its intercoolers are same as GT2 RS so its not comparing apples with apples as the list of parts and therefor extra labour needed on a manual 997.1 turbo are long indeed if you want the same banzai performance hence 4x the cost.

List of extra bits needed on 997.1 turbo are considerable. New GT2 RS turbos alone are £6k then you have to send them away for bigger compressor wheel. See below

9e GT2 RS hybrid turbos with clipped 66mm billet compressor wheels, motorsport bearings and do88 oversized turbo inlet pipes (turbo inlet pipes optional).
GT2 RS intercoolers
IPD high flow Y-Pipe
82 mm motorsport
IPD Plenum with GT3 Throttle Body
sports 100 cel exhaust
LWFW with Sachs 890Nm clutch
short shift (optional)
H&R - 20 mm sports lowering springs (optional)
TPC DSC module (optional)
GT2 rear anti roll bar (optional)

All adds up but you get a manual and a mezger as in 996t

The Red Devil

251 posts

106 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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9e 28 said:
Yes the gen 2 turbo is rapid basically because of the PDK. It literally only needs a map , exhaust and air filter as turbos are nice and big and its intercoolers are same as GT2 RS so its not comparing apples with apples as the list of parts and therefor extra labour needed on a manual 997.1 turbo are long indeed if you want the same banzai performance hence 4x the cost.

List of extra bits needed on 997.1 turbo is considerable. New GT2 RS turbos alone are £6k then you have to send them away for bigger compressor wheel. See below

9e GT2 RS hybrid turbos with clipped 66mm billet compressor wheels, motorsport bearings and do88 oversized turbo inlet pipes (turbo inlet pipes optional).
GT2 RS intercoolers
IPD high flow Y-Pipe
82 mm motorsport
IPD Plenum with GT3 Throttle Body
sports 100 cel exhaust
LWFW with Sachs 890Nm clutch
short shift (optional)
H&R - 20 mm sports lowering springs (optional)
TPC DSC module (optional)
GT2 rear anti roll bar (optional)

All adds up but you get a manual and a mezger as in 996t
I would love some more power on my 6T. I rarely if ever stretch it beyond 5000 rpm as I
find the power tails of then and a quicker curve is achievable simply by changing up a
gear and riding the wave again. Some high end punch would be great but it so bloody expensive to
get more power and do it safely with no compromise. If the car would give that extra lunge after 5000 rpm it
would be the perfect missile.

The other factor is my license which thanks to being caught on the mobile the other day will be up
to 6 points assuming they follow through, having been clean for years. I really need to be sensible,
that and 4 children depending on me, plus quick take (the wife) says that for now I have plenty power
in the real world and certainly enough to dispatch anything that shapes up for it.

Paul_RH

Original Poster:

29 posts

93 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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The Red Devil said:
9e 28 said:
Yes the gen 2 turbo is rapid basically because of the PDK. It literally only needs a map , exhaust and air filter as turbos are nice and big and its intercoolers are same as GT2 RS so its not comparing apples with apples as the list of parts and therefor extra labour needed on a manual 997.1 turbo are long indeed if you want the same banzai performance hence 4x the cost.

List of extra bits needed on 997.1 turbo is considerable. New GT2 RS turbos alone are £6k then you have to send them away for bigger compressor wheel. See below

9e GT2 RS hybrid turbos with clipped 66mm billet compressor wheels, motorsport bearings and do88 oversized turbo inlet pipes (turbo inlet pipes optional).
GT2 RS intercoolers
IPD high flow Y-Pipe
82 mm motorsport
IPD Plenum with GT3 Throttle Body
sports 100 cel exhaust
LWFW with Sachs 890Nm clutch
short shift (optional)
H&R - 20 mm sports lowering springs (optional)
TPC DSC module (optional)
GT2 rear anti roll bar (optional)

All adds up but you get a manual and a mezger as in 996t
I would love some more power on my 6T. I rarely if ever stretch it beyond 5000 rpm as I
find the power tails of then and a quicker curve is achievable simply by changing up a
gear and riding the wave again. Some high end punch would be great but it so bloody expensive to
get more power and do it safely with no compromise. If the car would give that extra lunge after 5000 rpm it
would be the perfect missile.

The other factor is my license which thanks to being caught on the mobile the other day will be up
to 6 points assuming they follow through, having been clean for years. I really need to be sensible,
that and 4 children depending on me, plus quick take (the wife) says that for now I have plenty power
in the real world and certainly enough to dispatch anything that shapes up for it.
Thanks for the input fellas,

It's exciting stuff indeed. Will I ever grow up and be sensible...... Nah.

I'll give 9e a call when I get home from work (abroad) in 10 days or so to discuss options. 9e seem the real deal so I'm willing to travel. I live near Doncaster. Are there any super guru's recommended near me??

Cheers, Paul.

The Red Devil

251 posts

106 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Thanks for the input fellas,

It's exciting stuff indeed. Will I ever grow up and be sensible...... Nah.

I'll give 9e a call when I get home from work (abroad) in 10 days or so to discuss options. 9e seem the real deal so I'm willing to travel. I live near Doncaster. Are there any super guru's recommended near me??


Other people do exist however I find a lot of bias out there with Turbo tuning, 9E seem to have set the bar,
and a car tuned by them will get a thumbs up, cars tuned by others seem to get a lot of criticism and raise more
questions than they answer. Also factoring in that when you go to part with it you will be confronted with the
muppets who have read that tuning is bad for the car, that 80% again, even the muppets are coming around to the
9E thing. Happily pass on the names of the roasters on the forum not to listen to, be warned though, the list is
long.
I mapped a car a few weeks with Ecotune in Glasgow, excellent service, good clean map too, very happy.
9E was too far for me to make it cost effective

Best of luck with it no matter what and look forward to you posting your decision fella.

Bikeracer1098

510 posts

187 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Paul_RH said:
Thanks for the input fellas,

It's exciting stuff indeed. Will I ever grow up and be sensible...... Nah.

I'll give 9e a call when I get home from work (abroad) in 10 days or so to discuss options. 9e seem the real deal so I'm willing to travel. I live near Doncaster. Are there any super guru's recommended near me??

Cheers, Paul.
Hi Paul

Give me a shout when your popping down to 9e, I'm also tempted to get the same done to my 997.2 turbo.

Have you been out on the 1098R recently?

The new RSV4 is awesome loving it

Cheers

Rich

Paul_RH

Original Poster:

29 posts

93 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Bikeracer1098 said:
Hi Paul

Give me a shout when your popping down to 9e, I'm also tempted to get the same done to my 997.2 turbo.

Have you been out on the 1098R recently?

The new RSV4 is awesome loving it

Cheers

Rich
Hi Rich,

Yeah, it's an itch I've gotta scratch! I don't want to go daft with mega hp but a wee tweak will be nice.... he he he...

Did Almeria recently which was ace and booked Donington for 12th. Hopefully I'll get home on time. Yup, heard a lot of good things on the RSV4.

I'll drop you line if I'm off to 9E any time soon.

Cheers, Paul.

Paul_RH

Original Poster:

29 posts

93 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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The Red Devil said:
Thanks for the input fellas,

It's exciting stuff indeed. Will I ever grow up and be sensible...... Nah.

I'll give 9e a call when I get home from work (abroad) in 10 days or so to discuss options. 9e seem the real deal so I'm willing to travel. I live near Doncaster. Are there any super guru's recommended near me??


Other people do exist however I find a lot of bias out there with Turbo tuning, 9E seem to have set the bar,
and a car tuned by them will get a thumbs up, cars tuned by others seem to get a lot of criticism and raise more
questions than they answer. Also factoring in that when you go to part with it you will be confronted with the
muppets who have read that tuning is bad for the car, that 80% again, even the muppets are coming around to the
9E thing. Happily pass on the names of the roasters on the forum not to listen to, be warned though, the list is
long.
I mapped a car a few weeks with Ecotune in Glasgow, excellent service, good clean map too, very happy.
9E was too far for me to make it cost effective

Best of luck with it no matter what and look forward to you posting your decision fella.
Thanks, and noted! It may be a couple of months before I get round to it but for sure I'll post up the story. Can't wait.... Do you think it may be worthwhile having the turbo's and actuators serviced whilst the exhaust change is going on? It'd be a good time to do it I'd say.

Cheers, Paul.