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http://www.onedirect.co.uk/cardo/cardo-scala-rider...
Are these any good , just thinking of getting one as I can listen to sav nav.
Are these any good , just thinking of getting one as I can listen to sav nav.
No idea about that one, but if it is anything like the Cardo SHO-1 in terms of reliability I'd avoid.
I've had nothing but grief with mine, had it sent back 3 times in just under a year, twice for loom issues (which you shouldn't get with that one I hope) and once for dead battery, on all occasions it required return of the complete unit.
Personally I'd see how the Senna units stack up in terms of reliability / features.
As a side note, if Cardo go bust, you wouldn't be able to update settings on the device as it requires a connection to their community site to do this, there's no stand alone application (which I think is incredibly s**t)
I've had nothing but grief with mine, had it sent back 3 times in just under a year, twice for loom issues (which you shouldn't get with that one I hope) and once for dead battery, on all occasions it required return of the complete unit.
Personally I'd see how the Senna units stack up in terms of reliability / features.
As a side note, if Cardo go bust, you wouldn't be able to update settings on the device as it requires a connection to their community site to do this, there's no stand alone application (which I think is incredibly s**t)
mitzy said:
http://www.onedirect.co.uk/cardo/cardo-scala-rider...
Are these any good , just thinking of getting one as I can listen to sav nav.
I have had various Scala products over the years. The only issue I have had with a G4 was the speakers eventually died (It was used every day at full volume for listening to music, satnav, etc). I'm now on a PACKTALK and you can easily swop the speakers to any you like.Are these any good , just thinking of getting one as I can listen to sav nav.
Using a few linked together is good on a ride out as well.
mitzy said:
http://www.onedirect.co.uk/cardo/cardo-scala-rider...
Are these any good , just thinking of getting one as I can listen to sav nav.
If you just want to BT satnav from your phone or similar, this will do the job for half the price:Are these any good , just thinking of getting one as I can listen to sav nav.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BT-Interphone-800M-Motor...
I've been using a Cardo SHO-1 for about 3 weeks now. So far its been pretty good, the speakers are ok for music, brilliant for phone calls. My caller nine times out of ten, cant even tell that I'm on the bike (using full face lid and hybrid mic), even at 70-80mph, it has a built in FM radio which works well and picks up loads of stations, the buttons are easy to locate whilst on the move and through gloves, the unit is small and unobtrusive on my helmet, it has a good speed volume adjustment function which is quite effective and last night I discovered that if I forget to turn the unit off, it will stay steadfastly connected to my phone via bluetooth, despite it being in the garage, in my top box, whilst I am in the lounge room on the second floor of my building, about 60m away. I do have a couple of gripes though: it has A LOT of functions and you need to do them ALL from 5 buttons; many things are indicated by how many times the LED on the unit flashes, which of course you cant see whilst using it; I have the dual kit but the other speaker and mic loom did not work, straight from the box which was very annoying.
The secret to comms kits is to handle and fit them as thought they are made from tissue paper held together with spider's web and once fitted using the care and precision of a brain surgeon, never never touch them or move them or interfere with them again. They're notoriously brittle.
The secret to comms kits is to handle and fit them as thought they are made from tissue paper held together with spider's web and once fitted using the care and precision of a brain surgeon, never never touch them or move them or interfere with them again. They're notoriously brittle.
mitzy said:
http://www.onedirect.co.uk/cardo/cardo-scala-rider...
Are these any good , just thinking of getting one as I can listen to sav nav.
Please only get the one unitAre these any good , just thinking of getting one as I can listen to sav nav.
I owned a 2X G4 and my friends owned G9's and they all worked perfectly unless we went out of range.
We now all own packtalks which are a lot more stable. I can share music with the wife, the mesh network is self healing and can be controlled from an app in my phone. I have had a a good experience with my models of scala.
We now all own packtalks which are a lot more stable. I can share music with the wife, the mesh network is self healing and can be controlled from an app in my phone. I have had a a good experience with my models of scala.
jhoneyball said:
The BT kit for the Schubeth fliplid is from cardo. The cardo software is utterly incompetent crap.
Funny how Cardo is the best selling BT in the market and currently the leader and has been for years. Early stuff was buggy, but so was everyones. Now I find it pretty good. So they wouldn't be in business if it was crap. The instructions can be challenging, the manuals are pretty rubbish. So not ideal for the non technically minded.I've been happy with my Scalas when used solo - both the G4 and Schuberth versions. It has been faultless for satnav/radio/music/phonecalls/SIRI.
For intercom use, the G4 version may not be as stable as the version implemented in the Schuberth or G9x variants - something we've experienced on tour when we've paired up 2 x G4, 1 x G9x, and a Schuberth together. The trick to using them is to be sequential in pushing the buttons to connect multiple intercoms up, and to be patient after pressing the button (once!) as they do not respond/react immediately.
For intercom use, the G4 version may not be as stable as the version implemented in the Schuberth or G9x variants - something we've experienced on tour when we've paired up 2 x G4, 1 x G9x, and a Schuberth together. The trick to using them is to be sequential in pushing the buttons to connect multiple intercoms up, and to be patient after pressing the button (once!) as they do not respond/react immediately.
I have a Scala SHO-1 in my (full face) helmet, and bought a second hand Scala Rider for the wife's for the occasional 2-up jaunt. I use mine all the time for phone/music and it's been fine.
Good news is there is zero background noise on the phone (to callers), so you can claim to be in the office or whatever
So-so news is the quality of sound through the speakers is adequate at best. If they're recessed right back in the 'speaker pocket' of the helmet the sound is actually dire, so I had to space mine out so they're just touching my ear, at which point the sound quality is just about acceptable. But don't be thinking anything like the quality of ear buds or headphones. Fine for phone calls and sat nav, but pretty poor for music.
Bad news is the voice control is really poor. You can say 'Music on' and the wee electronic lass says 'Intercom' back to you. You say 'Next track' and she comes back with something like 'radio on'. I've tried speaking slow, fast, loud, soft, queen's english and various other dialects and it's really poor in interpreting what you want. I'd certainly never try to use voice commands to make a phone call as it would probably try to connect me with some random stranger if I tried 'call home'.
And the radio is useless.
So - absolutely superb for receiving incoming phone calls, great for making outgoing calls on either the saved favourite or dialling separately; great for speaking with other riders in a group with compatible kit; great for voice-command directions off phone/sat nav; just about OK for music off your phone/MP3 on motorways etc; very poor on the radio and poor recognition of voice commands.
Good news is there is zero background noise on the phone (to callers), so you can claim to be in the office or whatever
So-so news is the quality of sound through the speakers is adequate at best. If they're recessed right back in the 'speaker pocket' of the helmet the sound is actually dire, so I had to space mine out so they're just touching my ear, at which point the sound quality is just about acceptable. But don't be thinking anything like the quality of ear buds or headphones. Fine for phone calls and sat nav, but pretty poor for music.
Bad news is the voice control is really poor. You can say 'Music on' and the wee electronic lass says 'Intercom' back to you. You say 'Next track' and she comes back with something like 'radio on'. I've tried speaking slow, fast, loud, soft, queen's english and various other dialects and it's really poor in interpreting what you want. I'd certainly never try to use voice commands to make a phone call as it would probably try to connect me with some random stranger if I tried 'call home'.
And the radio is useless.
So - absolutely superb for receiving incoming phone calls, great for making outgoing calls on either the saved favourite or dialling separately; great for speaking with other riders in a group with compatible kit; great for voice-command directions off phone/sat nav; just about OK for music off your phone/MP3 on motorways etc; very poor on the radio and poor recognition of voice commands.
308mate said:
...and last night I discovered that if I forget to turn the unit off, it will stay steadfastly connected to my phone via bluetooth, despite it being in the garage, in my top box, whilst I am in the lounge room on the second floor of my building, about 60m away...
Which reminds me - yes the distance is great. I've used mine when touring with some mates; we use them connected 'full time' rather then 'on demand' as surprisingly this seems to extend the battery life to at least a full day. And while the distance is great inasmuch as the lead rider can report back 'road clear to overtake after the red car' or whatever, it also means you hear everything....like when stopped at a service station. After listening-in on the 'there you go, cheers' handing over the cash, to 'Ooooh, Aaaaaaah. That's better.' when they stop off for a pee. Luckily no one has yet taken their helmet in to the traps with them to 'drop the kids off at the pool', that would be too much!
tvrolet said:
308mate said:
...and last night I discovered that if I forget to turn the unit off, it will stay steadfastly connected to my phone via bluetooth, despite it being in the garage, in my top box, whilst I am in the lounge room on the second floor of my building, about 60m away...
Which reminds me - yes the distance is great. I've used mine when touring with some mates; we use them connected 'full time' rather then 'on demand' as surprisingly this seems to extend the battery life to at least a full day. And while the distance is great inasmuch as the lead rider can report back 'road clear to overtake after the red car' or whatever, it also means you hear everything....like when stopped at a service station. After listening-in on the 'there you go, cheers' handing over the cash, to 'Ooooh, Aaaaaaah. That's better.' when they stop off for a pee. Luckily no one has yet taken their helmet in to the traps with them to 'drop the kids off at the pool', that would be too much!
, are you waiting for a red carpet?" whilst waiting for a less brazen group member to make an overtake 
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