what is the alternative wiper motor for the late S1?

what is the alternative wiper motor for the late S1?

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magpies

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5,129 posts

183 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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my wiper only operates on one speed and does not self park -although the column switch has 3 on positions only the fastest works

pretty sure it is an oldish Peugeot of some description

The gooooooooogle search did not come up with the answer

greymrj

3,316 posts

205 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Hi Mick, is yours a crank arm type? If so I found a Peugeot 405 motor was easy to adapt and gave 2 speeds and intermittent. On the big old Peugeot it was situated under the scuttle outside the screen on the drivers side so quite easy to get at. I would assume several large Peugeots had the same one.
The original was AC Delco and unobtainable. My local auto electrician looked at repairing the old one but it had corroded and wasnt viable. Water had leaking in the first wiper pivot point and come down the arm into the motor.
If I remember rightly it was dead easy to convert but I had a bit of fun sorting out which wire went were! Surprise...they weren't the same colour scheme! Good luck.

While you are the breakers look out for K11 Micra rear wiper arms as well.

magpies

Original Poster:

5,129 posts

183 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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I believe cable type

only the very earliest were crank

glenrobbo

35,311 posts

151 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Austin has the crank type, I believe the original source was LHD Senator or the square Carlton? I may be completely wrong of course.

mrufcs1

81 posts

236 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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The later cable system is a lucas system which is readily available from the likes of Holdens, Europa etc. The motor is pretty standard across lots of cars with the only difference being the teeth on the spindle wheelboxes and the interchangeable crankwheel thingy in the motor which adjusts the travel. I got a full replacement set from Gerald TVR from one of his broken cars to put into mine as I still currently have the cranks and rods system fitted to the early cars and it's rubbish ! The spindles have to be perfectly square otherwise there's a huge amount of stress through the system resulting in the spindle tearing it's way through the fibre glass. The spindles themselves look like they have been made from some galvanised electrical conduit couplings, not brilliant !

I think Neil at ML Performance can supply all the bits but generally the motor should be a two speed unit already with the park switch. Holdens do have a good description of how the put a system together on their website as they are geared towards building kit cars etc.

From memory the wheelboxes have different amounts of teeth but Neil will be able to help if you need them.


magpies

Original Poster:

5,129 posts

183 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Problem seems to be wires pulled out of crimes. Anyone know which wires connect towhich ones on the motor? As more than one pulled

zombeh

693 posts

188 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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the three missing wires should be red/green, blue/green, black left to right in your photo

greymrj

3,316 posts

205 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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mrufcs1 said:
I got a full replacement set from Gerald TVR from one of his broken cars to put into mine as I still currently have the cranks and rods system fitted to the early cars and it's rubbish ! The spindles have to be perfectly square otherwise there's a huge amount of stress through the system resulting in the spindle tearing it's way through the fibre glass. The spindles themselves look like they have been made from some galvanised electrical conduit couplings, not brilliant !
Couldnt agree more! I managed to get the crank system working 'adequately' with a Peugeot motor and a lot of engineering but it is ripping itself apart again. In the heavy rain in Belgium, on 2 speed, I noticed the speedo was moving! The whole body was moving slightly in time with the wipers!!! It is coming adrift again...winter work and a cable system to be introduced. Complete dash out again!!! I WILL get this S1 sorted.nuts

phillpot

17,122 posts

184 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Few more "Scotchloks" will soon have that sorted ... wink



Any help?

magpies

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183 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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All the wires were dodgy. I have
Black
Blue/green
Red/green
Brown /green
Green/pink.

This is correct as the wiring diagram
But which one goes where

magpies

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Friday 29th July 2016
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phillpot said:
Few more "Scotchloks" will soon have that sorted ... wink



Any help?
Yep - absolutely brilliant - will connect in the morning as wife wants to go to the pub for a meal when she gets home


will still do a complete rewire once this has checked out

zombeh

693 posts

188 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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If it still doesn't work properly with all the wires attached then replace the park switch, http://www.autoelectricalspares.co.uk/lucas-type-5...

phillpot

17,122 posts

184 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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magpies said:
- will connect in the morning as wife wants to go to the pub for a meal when she gets home
Let her go or do you need a hand holding the soldering iron?




magpies

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5,129 posts

183 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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phillpot said:
Let her go or do you need a hand holding the soldering iron?
I'm fine as I did some ironing earlier - while she was at work

starting to get the hang of this week on / week off lark

zombeh

693 posts

188 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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http://www.autosparks.co.uk/electrical-components/...

is the connector that should be on there instead of that mess smile