New Landlord Licences

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PAULJ5555

Original Poster:

3,554 posts

176 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Has anyone on here registered yet and gone on the training course to get a licence. Whats it like.

Seems a waste of time to create even more paperwork and laws, we already have the deposit protection scheme and local authority housing and environmental health officers.


https://www.rentsmart.gov.wales/en/landlord/landlo...

mr_fibuli

1,109 posts

195 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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I would never have heard about this if I hadn't clicked on your link, so I certainly won't be helping to market their stupid course by passing on the info to my partner who lets her house biggrin

PAULJ5555

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3,554 posts

176 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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mr_fibuli said:
I would never have heard about this if I hadn't clicked on your link, so I certainly won't be helping to market their stupid course by passing on the info to my partner who lets her house biggrin
Apparently its the law.

snorky782

1,115 posts

99 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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PAULJ5555 said:
Apparently its the law.
In Wales

PAULJ5555

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Friday 29th July 2016
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snorky782 said:
PAULJ5555 said:
Apparently its the law.
In Wales
Gold star for you.

snorky782

1,115 posts

99 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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PAULJ5555 said:
snorky782 said:
PAULJ5555 said:
Apparently its the law.
In Wales
Gold star for you.
I'm presuming you're being sarcastic as you're in Wales, but many of us, who are landlords aren't.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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snorky782 said:
PAULJ5555 said:
Apparently its the law.
In Wales
Since last November. With at least six months of publicity beforehand.

PAULJ5555

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3,554 posts

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Friday 29th July 2016
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snorky782 said:
I'm presuming you're being sarcastic as you're in Wales, but many of us, who are landlords aren't.
The link says wales in the OP as does the web site. I just thought it was quite obvious. Friday afternoon type humour I suppose.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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PAULJ5555 said:
Seems a waste of time to create even more paperwork and laws, we already have the deposit protection scheme and local authority housing and environmental health officers.
Bureaucracy & non-jobs for parasites. All it will due is drive rents up to cover aggravation.

PAULJ5555

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Friday 29th July 2016
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Rovinghawk said:
Bureaucracy & non-jobs for parasites. All it will due is drive rents up to cover aggravation.
The governments seem to hate landlords, Cameron & Miliband always used to have a pop at them. They provide a much needed answer to housing for a lot of people.

As always its the small number of bad ones who give the rest a bad name. The bad ones probably wont even bother registering anyway.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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PAULJ5555 said:
The bad ones probably wont even bother registering anyway.
At which point, they've committed a criminal offence.

Byff

4,427 posts

261 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Shame there isn't a scheme to register the filthy, rent avoiding, lying tenants that I've had the pleasure of housing.

PAULJ5555

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Friday 29th July 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
PAULJ5555 said:
The bad ones probably wont even bother registering anyway.
At which point, they've committed a criminal offence.
I don't think they care, they probably don't declare the income to HMRC, they don't worry about the law and the condition of the home either. That's why we have another new law.

Wings

5,813 posts

215 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Not just for HMOs, but all residential letting properties, this being part of the Housing Act 2004, intended to cover anti-social behaviour issues, however appears to me to be more data and revenue collecting.

I have just registered several three bed properties and flats in Bristol, was £450 per property, now after 1st July £1000 per property.

Owner, landlord, manager, agents etc. need to be registered, with checks carried out on the same by local council’s environmental health office, full description of property, tenants, layout of property, production of EPC, Gas Safety Certificate, Electrical Inspection Report etc. On the anti-social behaviour issue, landlord and/or agent is expected to leave their contact details with neighbouring property owners to the rental property.

http://privaterentedservice.co.uk/ll_hanbook/selec...

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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PAULJ5555 said:
I don't think they care
Oh, they will soon enough - because it's a nice easy one to track down. A paperwork offence. Is this property's CT payer the same person as the LR owner? No? Almost certainly rented, then. Is the owner on the registered landlord list? No? Flag for investigation.

Add in that it brings fees into the local authority, at a time when budgets are being slashed left, right and centre. Stir lightly with a bit of dissuading BtL and returning properties to the owner/occupier market.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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PAULJ5555 said:
Rovinghawk said:
Bureaucracy & non-jobs for parasites. All it will due is drive rents up to cover aggravation.
The governments seem to hate landlords, Cameron & Miliband always used to have a pop at them. They provide a much needed answer to housing for a lot of people.

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or do they ? or have the amateur property tycoons driven the prices of housing to unsustainable levels trapping young professionals and 'hard working families' into a cycle of constant renting ( paying someone else's mortgage ) ...

then there is the complete inability of many landlords and letting agents to comprehend the actual meaning of quiet enjoyment ...

never mind the ridiculous profiteering from enforcing moving on regular basis and all the made up bks fees being charged with thousands of percent mark up

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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I have a pack kicking around here somewhere - from a cursory glance, it appears I don't have to do too much as I pay PurpleBricks to do everything for me. Life's too short to manage a property for the sake of 45 quid a month.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

212 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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mph1977 said:
or do they ? or have the amateur property tycoons driven the prices of housing to unsustainable levels trapping young professionals and 'hard working families' into a cycle of constant renting ( paying someone else's mortgage ) ...

then again, there's a lot of young folk who saw the damage Governments have done to pension funds ,and the need to work for a lot more years to retire without depending on state help, where every £1 rise in pension is matched by a reduction in benefits of £1.5 -£2 .
So they decided to go into property , looking on it a a long term investment to provide a pension fund, and what did a Tory, supposedly existing to help the business do- treat them as property tycoons forcing up the price of housing, and instead of hitting the big property firms, just hit them all
But then , something else is missing- remember the ODPM drive to take social housing out of LA hands and sell it at a pittance to Housing Authorities, who were then allowed to do improvements ,paid for out of various initiatives and as a result raise rents. However to do this, the tenants in Social housing had to vote to allow the LA to give away the family silver. And once the housing authorities got their hands on the stock-in moved the bulldozers to demolish perfectly good stock and erect boxes in their place, with a high percentage of the new properties not rented, but bought.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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mph1977 said:
PAULJ5555 said:
Rovinghawk said:
Bureaucracy & non-jobs for parasites. All it will due is drive rents up to cover aggravation.
The governments seem to hate landlords, Cameron & Miliband always used to have a pop at them. They provide a much needed answer to housing for a lot of people.

<snip>
or do they ? or have the amateur property tycoons driven the prices of housing to unsustainable levels trapping young professionals and 'hard working families' into a cycle of constant renting ( paying someone else's mortgage ) ...

then there is the complete inability of many landlords and letting agents to comprehend the actual meaning of quiet enjoyment ...

never mind the ridiculous profiteering from enforcing moving on regular basis and all the made up bks fees being charged with thousands of percent mark up
Predictably nonsensical response from the depths of ignorance.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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[quote=Who me ?]
mph1977 said:
or do they ? or have the amateur property tycoons driven the prices of housing to unsustainable levels trapping young professionals and 'hard working families' into a cycle of constant renting ( paying someone else's mortgage ) ...

then again, there's a lot of young folk who saw the damage Governments have done to pension funds ,and the need to work for a lot more years to retire without depending on state help, where every £1 rise in pension is matched by a reduction in benefits of £1.5 -£2 .
So they decided to go into property , looking on it a a long term investment to provide a pension fund, and what did a Tory, supposedly existing to help the business do- treat them as property tycoons forcing up the price of housing, and instead of hitting the big property firms, just hit them all
But then , something else is missing- remember the ODPM drive to take social housing out of LA hands and sell it at a pittance to Housing Authorities, who were then allowed to do improvements ,paid for out of various initiatives and as a result raise rents. However to do this, the tenants in Social housing had to vote to allow the LA to give away the family silver. And once the housing authorities got their hands on the stock-in moved the bulldozers to demolish perfectly good stock and erect boxes in their place, with a high percentage of the new properties not rented, but bought.
someone has been tellingyou porkies

a lot of the council houses bulldozed - needed to be bulldozed built between the wars or immediately post WW2 , hugely energy ineffiecient, not accessible, not meeting the needs of the community they were locatedin

it;s amazing how many council tenants also manage to own a static or canal boat ... all thanks to their 'social' rents when they don;t have a housing need.

as for 'high percentage' of new builds being sold when built by HAs - if you call key worker schemes and/or shared ownership 'sold' ...