Which 996?

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Dammit

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208 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Front wheel off, rear wheel on?

I'm almost sold on the Targa simply due to the rear hatch, if I can genuinely chuck the bike in the back.

BenWRXSEi

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134 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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LFB531 said:
rubystone said:
Btw, tips are really rubbish. Destroys the pleasure of the 6 speed G50.
Er, a bit sweeping? I've driven both versions in a 996 and I'd hardly call the Tip rubbish.

I've a 60,000 mile 2003 3.6 Targa Tip, hugely entertaining car, no body flex that I've noted, the hatch is really useful and that's a sunroof and a bit!
Agreed. My OH has a 996 which, according to the internet, is just about the worst one you can buy: 2003 3.6 C2 tiptronic cabriolet. It's on 130k miles or thereabouts and is driven daily, and we both still I bloody love it hehe

Don't shy away from high mileage cars either.

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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I've always dropped out both wheels.

Dammit

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208 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Well, I just missed a manual Targa with 40k on the clock- £17,500 took it away.

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Dammit said:
The car I made an offer on today was a 1999 manual 2wd coupe in Lapis blue, sports seats, sports exhaust, 64,000 miles but unfortunately no stamp in the service book since 2012, and a further four year gap in the history before that. I offered £14,500 contingent on a full (including bore-scope) report from Parr's, but he knocked me straight back.

That's the type of car I am looking for, but as I said - Targa has always been a guilty desire. But not if they are rubbish! I've not driven a Targa.
I personally would walk away from that one, there are a lot of 996's out there.

Doesn't the Targa have a lot of weight just where you want it the least?

Dammit

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Yes it does, am I good enough to notice the impact this has on its dynamics? That's a different question.

LordHaveMurci

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169 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Dammit said:
Yes it does, am I good enough to notice the impact this has on its dynamics? That's a different question.
That's a question only you can answer really.

Personally I dislike cab's, ruins the lines & that's a big part of a 911 to me, appreciate others see things differently. The Targa is an interesting one, retains the looks & adds a touch of practicality, the downside being the weight & possible roof issues mentioned earlier.

Manual coupe will be more sought after in years to come I'm sure, non sunroof model preferably & early cable throttle would be perfect.

LFB531

1,233 posts

158 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Even if they're overweight in the wrong places (and I'm not qualified to comment), it's pretty hard not to like the lines with the extra glass.


ForzaGilles

558 posts

224 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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LordHaveMurci said:
Manual coupe will be more sought after in years to come I'm sure, non sunroof model preferably & early cable throttle would be perfect.
What's the advantage of the cable throttle?

griffter

3,983 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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ForzaGilles said:
What's the advantage of the cable throttle?
I don't think anybody's ever claimed they drive any differently, but there's a perception that because there is a mechanical connection between the pedal and the throttle the engine must be more responsive. The fuel injection is still controlled by a preprogrammed map of course, not a pair of triple down draught carburettors, so any differences in practice seem likely to me to be difficult to spot.

griffter

3,983 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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anonymous said:
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I'll take your word for it, I've never driven both back to back. In my experience of cable throttles, they have to be well adjusted (and kept well adjusted) and in good condition so as to operate well (rather than merely function). Neither are difficult tasks, but one more thing to remember to do.
That said, I favour simplicity over complexity. I've fixed cable throttles with zip ties and chocolate block connectors in the past. When a fbw fails it's AA time!

Dammit

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Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Here's where I am now: I realised that I'd set a specific target in my head which was an amber-indicator 3.4, manual coupe with low miles in dark blue with a tan interior.

The problem is that I'd likely then treat it as a classic and pootle round in it.

So I'm now evaluating mid-mileage 996.2 manual coupe's as there's a lot more of them, they're cheaper, and I'd feel much more comfortable about using it on the track every other weekend.

The one I am currently looking at is £14,000, manual coupe with sports seats, and earlier this year had a clutch/IMS/RMS. It's on 90,000 miles, and is dark blue with a grey interior. All work was done by Autofarm, and they've looked after it for the last three years. Confirmation to come, but it's either 2002 or 2003.

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Dammit said:
Here's where I am now: I realised that I'd set a specific target in my head which was an amber-indicator 3.4, manual coupe with low miles in dark blue with a tan interior.

The problem is that I'd likely then treat it as a classic and pootle round in it.

So I'm now evaluating mid-mileage 996.2 manual coupe's as there's a lot more of them, they're cheaper, and I'd feel much more comfortable about using it on the track every other weekend.

The one I am currently looking at is £14,000, manual coupe with sports seats, and earlier this year had a clutch/IMS/RMS. It's on 90,000 miles, and is dark blue with a grey interior. All work was done by Autofarm, and they've looked after it for the last three years. Confirmation to come, but it's either 2002 or 2003.
Sounds like it could be a good buy, subject to the usual checks. There are two different grey interiors by the way, one is lighter than t'other.

Dammit

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208 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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I just spent lunchtime driving round Regents park in an early 996 convertible - amber indicator car.

Now of course we didn't reach the outer limits of the chassis at 25mph round the park, but there were no squeaks or rattles, and critically you can't see the back end when you're driving it.

I might get this as my first foray into Porsche ownership.

Can anyone recommend a Porsche specialist to check the car over who is in or near London?

boxsey

3,574 posts

210 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Dammit said:
I'd want to be able to negotiate on things such as "needs front and rear discs and pads", but I can understand why he wants to move it for a fixed figure.
Don't get hung up on discs and pads. At the end of the day they are consumables and not expensive in the grand scheme of things. Most independent specialists would do all four corners for about £600. I would expect most sellers to have taken into account the current wear on those items when pricing the car.

LordHaveMurci

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169 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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boxsey said:
Dammit said:
I'd want to be able to negotiate on things such as "needs front and rear discs and pads", but I can understand why he wants to move it for a fixed figure.
Don't get hung up on discs and pads. At the end of the day they are consumables and not expensive in the grand scheme of things. Most independent specialists would do all four corners for about £600. I would expect most sellers to have taken into account the current wear on those items when pricing the car.
More like £900-1000!

boxsey

3,574 posts

210 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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LordHaveMurci said:
boxsey said:
Dammit said:
I'd want to be able to negotiate on things such as "needs front and rear discs and pads", but I can understand why he wants to move it for a fixed figure.
Don't get hung up on discs and pads. At the end of the day they are consumables and not expensive in the grand scheme of things. Most independent specialists would do all four corners for about £600. I would expect most sellers to have taken into account the current wear on those items when pricing the car.
More like £900-1000!
My last bill for front discs (sebro) and pads (textar) was £350 all in.

Dammit

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Wednesday 21st September 2016
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I don't want to knock the chap back on the price - I think it's very fair, I just want to understand whether there's something horrifying lurking that means I should walk away.

So the question is who would be a good choice for a pre-purchase inspection in London/near London?

boxsey

3,574 posts

210 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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anonymous said:
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I used to do them myself too but age has finally caught up on me but thanks for confirming that the cost of the consumables is really not that high. smile

Dammit

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Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Kensington Autocare for a PPI? Anyone know if they are knowledgeable when it comes to the 996?