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Although I'm delighted that the OP has found a car, I'm a bit sad really because I was really enjoying reading about his adventures along the way! The Swiss Tony comment really made my morning!
I sell houses (nice ones fortunately) and presentation is everything. The reason we take umpteen photos, use floor plans and don't show houses until we've talked through every question with a prospective they can think of is so we avoid this kind of nonsense and not waste either ours, the buyer or the sellers time. Estate agents will never have a good name but like car dealers, there are good and bad!
Off to show some houses this morning, happy to make the effort for the owners as I know they'll already be up making them look their best
I sell houses (nice ones fortunately) and presentation is everything. The reason we take umpteen photos, use floor plans and don't show houses until we've talked through every question with a prospective they can think of is so we avoid this kind of nonsense and not waste either ours, the buyer or the sellers time. Estate agents will never have a good name but like car dealers, there are good and bad!
Off to show some houses this morning, happy to make the effort for the owners as I know they'll already be up making them look their best
I'm really looking forward to picking it up tomorrow - just calling round to get insurance now.
My reasoning was that the silver 996.1 cab had become a known quantity - I've (hopefully!) got a pretty accurate picture of what is required to get it to A1 condition.
That couldn't be said of the Targa, and that whole experience was pretty off-putting, I spent two hours travelling to view a car that I would absolutely not buy.
I'll put a few pictures up and record what it takes to get the silver car where it needs to be if there's any interest?
My reasoning was that the silver 996.1 cab had become a known quantity - I've (hopefully!) got a pretty accurate picture of what is required to get it to A1 condition.
That couldn't be said of the Targa, and that whole experience was pretty off-putting, I spent two hours travelling to view a car that I would absolutely not buy.
I'll put a few pictures up and record what it takes to get the silver car where it needs to be if there's any interest?
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Walk and find another.
The prices will slide a little as Winter dawns on us, especially Cabs.
I know the itch to say yes, but if it needs a lot doing try a few more. You can always come back to it.
The OP had it inspected by a specialist. That specialist came up with £3k of 'service work'. I haven't seen the list, but I do know that they did pick up on one issue that could well have been caused by the guy I sold it to and I agree that is something that needs sorting. But it's hardly a surprise that a specialist finds lots of 'work to do' is it?...The prices will slide a little as Winter dawns on us, especially Cabs.
I know the itch to say yes, but if it needs a lot doing try a few more. You can always come back to it.
I spent a lot on the servicing and remedial actions on that car because I planned to keep it. So it's a good car, highly optioned and all the MOTs to prove the miles.
Dammit said:
I'm really looking forward to picking it up tomorrow - just calling round to get insurance now.
My reasoning was that the silver 996.1 cab had become a known quantity - I've (hopefully!) got a pretty accurate picture of what is required to get it to A1 condition.
That couldn't be said of the Targa, and that whole experience was pretty off-putting, I spent two hours travelling to view a car that I would absolutely not buy.
I'll put a few pictures up and record what it takes to get the silver car where it needs to be if there's any interest?
Good, glad you pushed the button. My reasoning was that the silver 996.1 cab had become a known quantity - I've (hopefully!) got a pretty accurate picture of what is required to get it to A1 condition.
That couldn't be said of the Targa, and that whole experience was pretty off-putting, I spent two hours travelling to view a car that I would absolutely not buy.
I'll put a few pictures up and record what it takes to get the silver car where it needs to be if there's any interest?
PM me with the list if you like and I'll tell you what's BS and what's actually needed (ought to be 'nothing' because we went through the car from end to end. But you will need to get that aircon issue sorted).
Good luck with your new car, OP. Its nice to hear about someone getting the car they want, despite some ups and downs.
I'm surprising myself here, in that, after nearly a year of dead ends and bulls**t from dealers, I'm still looking for my first Porsche. Ive read these boards obsessively, seeing what to watch out for, having started out thinking I wanted a 997.1, getting close with a few, then deciding to go for broke and get a 997.2. Now I'm thinking I couldn't sleep at night with £50k of pride and joy parked on the road outside the house, so I'm thinking about a 996 instead - ideally a 3.6 cab.
So what should I be looking out for? Am I right in thinking the bore scoring isn't an issue with the 996, but IMS/RMS is?
I'm surprising myself here, in that, after nearly a year of dead ends and bulls**t from dealers, I'm still looking for my first Porsche. Ive read these boards obsessively, seeing what to watch out for, having started out thinking I wanted a 997.1, getting close with a few, then deciding to go for broke and get a 997.2. Now I'm thinking I couldn't sleep at night with £50k of pride and joy parked on the road outside the house, so I'm thinking about a 996 instead - ideally a 3.6 cab.
So what should I be looking out for? Am I right in thinking the bore scoring isn't an issue with the 996, but IMS/RMS is?
OK, thanks Moose. So I'm back around full circle and hoping I can trust a local specialist or two to find me something. Other dealers I've dealt with proved to be toerags, as did the private seller who currently refuses to return my deposit post bore-scoring revelations on his 997. God knows why I'm still hooked on the bloody things.
Well, the first day of 911 ownership is proving interesting.
I set out at half six this morning for Precision Porsche, mainly down the A22.
Thoughts varied from "what's that noise" when going over speed bumps (more on that later) to making vroom-vroom noises and enjoying the way that a physically small car can take more advantage of the road than a larger one can (my other car is a Volvo estate).
Speaking of which, the 911 is slower and brakes worse than the Volvo - which is also when on song quite a bit louder. Quite different cars though.
Anyway - 911 lighter sockets, who knew? They are apparently European standard, and the majority of lighter socket to USB chargers are American standard, which is smaller and therefore they fall out. If anyone has a recco for a decent one of these that doesn't fall out please let me know.
Got to Precision and when the shutter came out at least a million quids worth of 911's reversed out in front of me, I took this to be a good sign.
Peter and Mark both seem to really know their stuff, and they've kept me informed of what they've found as they go through the car.
That said, I wish they'd found rather less - I'm now looking at £5,533.05 when I pick the car up.
The breakdown is (large stuff) four new control arms, four new shocks, topmounts and related gubbins all round, exhaust gaskets and clamps, new rad, new condenser, new aircon pipes. Oh, and adjusting the handbrake bite-point, which is doubtless where the majority of the cost comes from.
I'm going to be over-budget for the 911 project after this, only by £33.05, but there we go.
This has been a learning experience, I'm still happy with the car, I'll be happier still when I've got it back and everything is fixed, and I'm very glad I got a good price from the chap I bought the car from.
I set out at half six this morning for Precision Porsche, mainly down the A22.
Thoughts varied from "what's that noise" when going over speed bumps (more on that later) to making vroom-vroom noises and enjoying the way that a physically small car can take more advantage of the road than a larger one can (my other car is a Volvo estate).
Speaking of which, the 911 is slower and brakes worse than the Volvo - which is also when on song quite a bit louder. Quite different cars though.
Anyway - 911 lighter sockets, who knew? They are apparently European standard, and the majority of lighter socket to USB chargers are American standard, which is smaller and therefore they fall out. If anyone has a recco for a decent one of these that doesn't fall out please let me know.
Got to Precision and when the shutter came out at least a million quids worth of 911's reversed out in front of me, I took this to be a good sign.
Peter and Mark both seem to really know their stuff, and they've kept me informed of what they've found as they go through the car.
That said, I wish they'd found rather less - I'm now looking at £5,533.05 when I pick the car up.
The breakdown is (large stuff) four new control arms, four new shocks, topmounts and related gubbins all round, exhaust gaskets and clamps, new rad, new condenser, new aircon pipes. Oh, and adjusting the handbrake bite-point, which is doubtless where the majority of the cost comes from.
I'm going to be over-budget for the 911 project after this, only by £33.05, but there we go.
This has been a learning experience, I'm still happy with the car, I'll be happier still when I've got it back and everything is fixed, and I'm very glad I got a good price from the chap I bought the car from.
Fixing it all or £5k seems a bit overboard. Some of it wont be necessary now but later. I would own and enjoy the car and prioritise the work.
When I bought my 996 I took it for an inspection and got quoted 4k. Then I took it to Revolution in Brighouse who did the important work for £1500. The rest was fluff. By the way talk to Russ there just for advice before you go ahead even if its not with them. They are one of the best in the country. I used to travel from Dorset to get my Porsches serviced with them, they even put you up in a hotel overnight!!
I would not recommend you have everything done. Give it three months and something else will need doing then you are over budget.
When I bought my 996 I took it for an inspection and got quoted 4k. Then I took it to Revolution in Brighouse who did the important work for £1500. The rest was fluff. By the way talk to Russ there just for advice before you go ahead even if its not with them. They are one of the best in the country. I used to travel from Dorset to get my Porsches serviced with them, they even put you up in a hotel overnight!!
I would not recommend you have everything done. Give it three months and something else will need doing then you are over budget.
Dammit said:
Bilstein B4's and OEM Porsche arms re-manned by Hartech.
I've given the go-ahead for the work, it at least means that I can pick the car up and know it's A1.
Is the rad and condenser on the passenger side?I've given the go-ahead for the work, it at least means that I can pick the car up and know it's A1.
Are they by any chance talking about removing the engine? If yes to both then I think I know why they are finding it necessary to play with the exhaust.
still not sure why shocks need attention. Car was MOTd in early summer and no advisories...
Front control arms were replaced by previous owner 5 years ago and I had them checked because it sometimes creaks when it goes over a speed bump. They were given a clean bill of health. Didn't check the rears because no noises or untoward movement.
Anyway, by the time you've finished it'll be the best one out there!
Dammit said:
There has been no mention of taking the engine out, they are replacing the engine mounts though.
What is your thought?
Simply that if they were removing the exhaust to get to anything, they'd be likely to have to dismantle it which is why they're quoting for gaskets etc. If they do need to split the exhaust, and if it is rusted, you could likely end up with a bigger bill than you might think. What is your thought?
Any idea why they think engine mounts need replacing?
I did share the PPI with Precision- however, they inspected the brake lines and the ARB, both of which BSG marked for replacement and said that in their opinion these parts were fine and to leave them as-is.
I have a good feeling about them - I trust what they are telling me, and if in their opinion he engine mounts need changing then I am happy for them to be changed.
That's a fairly minor part of the overall bill- the control arms are significant on their own, then with labour figured in they get really quite expensive. That's what was going "graunch/graunch" over speed bumps as you said.
I have a good feeling about them - I trust what they are telling me, and if in their opinion he engine mounts need changing then I am happy for them to be changed.
That's a fairly minor part of the overall bill- the control arms are significant on their own, then with labour figured in they get really quite expensive. That's what was going "graunch/graunch" over speed bumps as you said.
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