MOT Exemption Consultation

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Storer

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215 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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This must be of interest to others on this forum.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/roadwo...


rswift

1,179 posts

175 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Well spotted, and yes, very interesting.

Storer

Original Poster:

5,024 posts

215 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Can't take praise for finding it as it was pointed in my direction but thought it worth a thread to highlight it.

b2hbm

1,291 posts

222 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Interesting, thanks for posting.

On a quick scan, it's quite a reasonable document with several options. I quite like the idea of a "basic MoT" which sounds very much as if it's a return to the MoT items which were tested during the era of the car's production rather than the expanded current MoT. That's a significant recognition of the differences between a 1961 and a 2016 car.

It needs another read through but on balance I think they've got the main bases well thought out. Any bets on a rolling 40yr old exemption ?

Brian

52classic

2,526 posts

210 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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I rather like the option of a 40 year rolling step down to a 'basic MOT.'

Just worry that it is to much like common sense to emanate from our government!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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b2hbm said:
I quite like the idea of a "basic MoT" which sounds very much as if it's a return to the MoT items which were tested during the era of the car's production rather than the expanded current MoT. That's a significant recognition of the differences between a 1961 and a 2016 car.
Except many of those "expanded" items don't apply to older vehicles anyway. Even where they do, is there a great problem? There is no expectation that they should be in better condition than they would have been when new. The only problem is one of individual testers not understanding older vehicles, and that's an easy one to work around - simply by picking a test centre that understands what they're doing properly.

Yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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52classic said:


Just worry that it is to much like common sense to emanate from our government!
Without getting all N,P, & E we do have a different government now... scratchchin

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Yertis said:
52classic said:
Just worry that it is to much like common sense to emanate from our government!
Without getting all N,P, & E we do have a different government now... scratchchin
Umm, since when? This consultation only opened yesterday...

Slidingpillar

761 posts

136 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
...simply by picking a test centre that understands what they're doing properly.
The trouble is, there are not that many of them although there is a list on the FBHVC site. An MOT tester yesterday said some testers even have problems with a Morris Minor (the Isigonis one, not the 1930s one).

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Slidingpillar said:
The trouble is, there are not that many of them...
I'm sure there aren't many areas of the country without at least one classic-friendly garage that you can ask - even if they don't do tests themselves, they'll take them to somebody.

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Slidingpillar said:
TooMany2cvs said:
...simply by picking a test centre that understands what they're doing properly.
The trouble is, there are not that many of them although there is a list on the FBHVC site. An MOT tester yesterday said some testers even have problems with a Morris Minor (the Isigonis one, not the 1930s one).
They shouldn't have, the test manual is clear enough - it even shows which way to walk round the car...
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...



Slidingpillar

761 posts

136 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Riley Blue said:
They shouldn't have, the test manual is clear enough - it even shows which way to walk round the car...
Indeed, but since a tester said it only yesterday, I'll have to take it at face value.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Slidingpillar said:
Riley Blue said:
They shouldn't have, the test manual is clear enough - it even shows which way to walk round the car...
Indeed, but since a tester said it only yesterday, I'll have to take it at face value.
Basically, he was saying that some other testers are out of their depth on anything out of the ordinary. This is hardly news. Nor is it a reflection on the test itself, since the problem is some individuals not understanding how to apply the allowances in the test.

mgv8

1,632 posts

271 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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The instresting part is about modified cars would NOT be part of this.

Yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
Umm, since when? This consultation only opened yesterday...
Yes, but we've had all kinds of alarmist stuff about MoTs for old cars cropping up over the last few years.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Yertis said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Umm, since when? This consultation only opened yesterday...
Yes, but we've had all kinds of alarmist stuff about MoTs for old cars cropping up over the last few years.
Indeed. Mostly from the fevered imaginations of the wuckfits calling themselves "ACE". This, though, is actually real.

cjb44

679 posts

118 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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mgv8 said:
The instresting part is about modified cars would NOT be part of this.
Agree, I would like to know what is a substantial modification.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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cjb44 said:
Agree, I would like to know what is a substantial modification.
Read the consultation doc.

Storer

Original Poster:

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215 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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I can see some of the classic friendly specialist garages seeing this as an opportunity to grow their business.
There are 'old or unusual car' friendly garages out there. All my vehicles go to a local garage but the Ultima is a bit of a challenge for them as they can see very little from underneath due to front splitter.

The Gov's preferred option allows for the point system on older vehicles so should enable most old cars to comply. I think my project will also comply, which is nice!

Slidingpillar

761 posts

136 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Storer said:
The Gov's preferred option allows for the point system on older vehicles so should enable most old cars to comply. I think my project will also comply, which is nice!
Careful counting chickens... The use of the 8 point system for MOT exemption is deeply flawed, quite needless and I suspect folk other than me will be telling them that too.

In a nutshell, the date on the V5c should be used, and the issue of possible incorrect registration should be left with DVLC - as is the case now.