2017 Rule Tweeks
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Rule tweaks for 2017.
Wet-weather standing starts
A new procedure regarding wet weather starts was accepted. From 2017, if a safety car is deemed to be required for the beginning of a race due to wet weather, a normal standing start will occur once the track is deemed safe to race. The process will see the safety car return to the pit lane and the cars assemble on the grid for the start.
Helmet livery rules eased
Drivers must continue to present their helmets in substantially the same livery at every event of the FIA Formula One World Championship for easy recognition of the driver in the car, however a driver will now be allowed one event (such as a home race) for a special livery (at the driver’s choice). Drivers will also be allowed to change their helmet liveries if changing teams during the season.
No more stockpiling power units
During any single event, if a driver introduces more than one of a power unit element that is subject to penalty, only the last element fitted may be used at subsequent events without further penalty. This is to prevent the stockpiling of spare power unit elements.
Fixed early-season tyre allocations
For the first five events of the 2017 Championship season only, the normal team selection procedure for tyres will not be used as the deadline occurs before pre-season testing. For these events the supplier will allocate two sets of the hardest compound specification, four sets of the medium compound specification and seven sets of the softest compound specification to each driver.
The WMSC also confirmed changes to Appendices 6 and 8 of the 2017 F1 Sporting Regulations which clarify outsourcing arrangements and conduct permitted regarding Listed Parts, Non-Listed Parts, wind tunnel testing and personnel transfer between teams engaged in a working or developmental relationship.
Personally I think the wet weather one is idiotic. But that's FIA.
Wet-weather standing starts
A new procedure regarding wet weather starts was accepted. From 2017, if a safety car is deemed to be required for the beginning of a race due to wet weather, a normal standing start will occur once the track is deemed safe to race. The process will see the safety car return to the pit lane and the cars assemble on the grid for the start.
Helmet livery rules eased
Drivers must continue to present their helmets in substantially the same livery at every event of the FIA Formula One World Championship for easy recognition of the driver in the car, however a driver will now be allowed one event (such as a home race) for a special livery (at the driver’s choice). Drivers will also be allowed to change their helmet liveries if changing teams during the season.
No more stockpiling power units
During any single event, if a driver introduces more than one of a power unit element that is subject to penalty, only the last element fitted may be used at subsequent events without further penalty. This is to prevent the stockpiling of spare power unit elements.
Fixed early-season tyre allocations
For the first five events of the 2017 Championship season only, the normal team selection procedure for tyres will not be used as the deadline occurs before pre-season testing. For these events the supplier will allocate two sets of the hardest compound specification, four sets of the medium compound specification and seven sets of the softest compound specification to each driver.
The WMSC also confirmed changes to Appendices 6 and 8 of the 2017 F1 Sporting Regulations which clarify outsourcing arrangements and conduct permitted regarding Listed Parts, Non-Listed Parts, wind tunnel testing and personnel transfer between teams engaged in a working or developmental relationship.
Personally I think the wet weather one is idiotic. But that's FIA.
Heartworm said:
Paul_M3 said:
Why do you think it's idiotic?
I much prefer standing starts to rolling starts, so for me this is an improvement.
It's going to be a little daft running around for half a dozen laps to stop and have a proper start, why bother running around behind the safety car at all?I much prefer standing starts to rolling starts, so for me this is an improvement.
If it has stopped raining it will also help clear the water off the track more quickly.
Paul_M3 said:
Heartworm said:
Paul_M3 said:
Why do you think it's idiotic?
I much prefer standing starts to rolling starts, so for me this is an improvement.
It's going to be a little daft running around for half a dozen laps to stop and have a proper start, why bother running around behind the safety car at all?I much prefer standing starts to rolling starts, so for me this is an improvement.
If it has stopped raining it will also help clear the water off the track more quickly.
This rule has basically ensured we'll never see a 'wet' race again, at most an inters race.
24lemons said:
Re the wet weather starts, why not just delay the start? Nobody wants to watch endless laps behind the safety car so have a cup of tea and wait for the weather to blow over and have a proper race!
This is the bit for me, though I suppose it may be the cars will clear the water off the track somewhat faster..I'm more concerned about the engine parts, i can't stand it. The championship can be won or lost on reliability, as it has always been, but this rule is ridiculous.
The drivers are penailsed enough if they have a mechanical failure in qualifying or the race, why add to the misery? Fine the teams if need be but stop with the driver penalties, it's pure bulls
t and needs to be abolished.
The drivers are penailsed enough if they have a mechanical failure in qualifying or the race, why add to the misery? Fine the teams if need be but stop with the driver penalties, it's pure bulls
t and needs to be abolished.NJK44 said:
Personally I think the wet weather one is idiotic. But that's FIA.
Why so? Given that we are apparently stuck with wet safety car starts regardless, surely it's more exciting/unpredictable to then have a proper start than the cars just being released from the safety car as they are now? It's the least worst option in my opinion and better than what we have now, at the very least we will always get a proper standing start.I can see the logic in it, allow the drivers to clear some of the standing water from the track whilst also getting a feel for things, then bring them back for a proper start. It happens a lot in club racing, with drivers often given several 'formation' laps when conditions are particularly treacherous.
thainy77 said:
I'm more concerned about the engine parts, i can't stand it. The championship can be won or lost on reliability, as it has always been, but this rule is ridiculous.
The drivers are penailsed enough if they have a mechanical failure in qualifying or the race, why add to the misery? Fine the teams if need be but stop with the driver penalties, it's pure bullst and needs to be abolished.
Agreed & applying those rules for this year, Rosberg would pretty much guaranteed to be crowned WDC ...that'd put a dent in the subsequent viewing figures.The drivers are penailsed enough if they have a mechanical failure in qualifying or the race, why add to the misery? Fine the teams if need be but stop with the driver penalties, it's pure bulls
t and needs to be abolished.Surely simplest solution is to just say 'use as many engine parts as you like, but each replacement component will cost you WCC points' e.g replacement ICE -10 WCC pts etc etc
angrymoby said:
Agreed & applying those rules for this year, Rosberg would pretty much guaranteed to be crowned WDC ...that'd put a dent in the subsequent viewing figures.
Surely simplest solution is to just say 'use as many engine parts as you like, but each replacement component will cost you WCC points' e.g replacement ICE -10 WCC pts etc etc
Exactly, what percentage of the viewers care what team wins? primarily people follow a driver not a team, IMO.Surely simplest solution is to just say 'use as many engine parts as you like, but each replacement component will cost you WCC points' e.g replacement ICE -10 WCC pts etc etc
Irrespective of the above, if the constructors start losing points on failures, and the drivers are not penalised, that still puts the onus on the teams to find the reliability and in turn drive down costs without affecting the WDC.
NJK44 said:
Paul_M3 said:
Heartworm said:
Paul_M3 said:
Why do you think it's idiotic?
I much prefer standing starts to rolling starts, so for me this is an improvement.
It's going to be a little daft running around for half a dozen laps to stop and have a proper start, why bother running around behind the safety car at all?I much prefer standing starts to rolling starts, so for me this is an improvement.
If it has stopped raining it will also help clear the water off the track more quickly.
This rule has basically ensured we'll never see a 'wet' race again, at most an inters race.
Vocal Minority said:
NJK44 said:
Paul_M3 said:
Heartworm said:
Paul_M3 said:
Why do you think it's idiotic?
I much prefer standing starts to rolling starts, so for me this is an improvement.
It's going to be a little daft running around for half a dozen laps to stop and have a proper start, why bother running around behind the safety car at all?I much prefer standing starts to rolling starts, so for me this is an improvement.
If it has stopped raining it will also help clear the water off the track more quickly.
This rule has basically ensured we'll never see a 'wet' race again, at most an inters race.
Halmyre said:
Vocal Minority said:
NJK44 said:
Paul_M3 said:
Heartworm said:
Paul_M3 said:
Why do you think it's idiotic?
I much prefer standing starts to rolling starts, so for me this is an improvement.
It's going to be a little daft running around for half a dozen laps to stop and have a proper start, why bother running around behind the safety car at all?I much prefer standing starts to rolling starts, so for me this is an improvement.
If it has stopped raining it will also help clear the water off the track more quickly.
This rule has basically ensured we'll never see a 'wet' race again, at most an inters race.
If the FIA don't want wet running anymore, they should just say, so that everyone knows what's up and they can also save money by getting rid of wets and inters.
Wish they would get rid of DRS. I was more or less in favour when it was introduced, or at least willing to give it a go. Now I'm sick of watching the drivers line up to pass in the DRS zone every lap. It actually detracts from the spectacle because it's so predictable.
Same for the joke tyres. Bring in another manufacturer and let's have a contest.
Same for the joke tyres. Bring in another manufacturer and let's have a contest.
John D. said:
Wish they would get rid of DRS. I was more or less in favour when it was introduced, or at least willing to give it a go. Now I'm sick of watching the drivers line up to pass in the DRS zone every lap. It actually detracts from the spectacle because it's so predictable.
Same for the joke tyres. Bring in another manufacturer and let's have a contest.
Same for the joke tyres. Bring in another manufacturer and let's have a contest.
tight fart said:
John D. said:
Wish they would get rid of DRS. I was more or less in favour when it was introduced, or at least willing to give it a go. Now I'm sick of watching the drivers line up to pass in the DRS zone every lap. It actually detracts from the spectacle because it's so predictable.
Same for the joke tyres. Bring in another manufacturer and let's have a contest.
Same for the joke tyres. Bring in another manufacturer and let's have a contest.
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