RE: Volkswagen I.D. - Paris 2016

RE: Volkswagen I.D. - Paris 2016

Thursday 29th September 2016

Volkswagen I.D. - Paris 2016

Like a Golf but not quite a Golf, the I.D. is the first step in VW's plan to sell 1m EVs a year by 2025



It's typical of Volkswagen to exhibit its motor show wares the evening before the expo opens, and Paris 2016 is no different. It also goes to show how the motoring landscape is changing that the big draw is a fully electric C-segment car that will eventually be autonomous. The future is coming...

Oh yes, definitely some Golf here
Oh yes, definitely some Golf here
The I.D. is the first car to be built on Volkswagen's 'MEB' architecture, a 'toolkit' platform much like the MQB that underpins so many cars but for electric models. 'Modular' is the key in that acronym (it essentially translates as 'Modular Electric Drive Kit') as it makes the architecture scalable, much in the same way that MQB can form the basis of both Audi Q2 and Skoda Superb. The I.D. is just the start!

VW in fact states that this car is the first in a "completely new fleet of highly innovative electric vehicles"; from the off the I.D. comes with a 125kW (167hp) electric motor and a projected range of between 248 and 372 miles (400-600km) on a single charge.

Though it can't be seen yet, Volkswagen says the interior of the I.D. offers an "entirely new spatial experience". It's built in anticipation of an autonomous mode also (due in 2025), with a steering wheel that retracts in fully automated mode.

That's still a little way off though. What isn't, however, is the arrival of the I.D. VW says it will be launched in 2020, running in parallel with the Golf range. What to make of VW's electric future? Over to you, and expect many more details from the Paris show floor soon!

 

 

 

 

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ZesPak

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24,420 posts

195 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Probably will have an ic engine hidden in the spare wheel compartiment hehe

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Shameless i3 ripoff

I assume it will have about 60-70lwh of battery. TBH I doubt VW's ability to source batteries for 1m of those by 2025 unless they seriously get on board manufacturing.

as this is total knee jerk after their recent disasters I doubt plans are that far along..

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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bmw i3



VW ID

Löyly

17,990 posts

158 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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RobDickinson said:
as this is total knee jerk after their recent disasters I doubt plans are that far along..
This. Half arsed concept art of a Golf dressed up in electric dress. They'll be looking to divert attention away from the diesel scandal.

Dave Hedgehog

14,541 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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VW management "ok we have noticed Tesla made their EV's look good and are shifting them by the bucket load so do we make ours look good or look like a clown car such as the i3"

VW head of design "clown car!"



EricE

1,945 posts

128 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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It seems like the company is in full panic mode and now trying to catch up to the i3 and Model 3 instead of innovating on their own, they copy the two (i3 - overall profile and concept, Model 3 - smooth lines, front edge where the grille would be). We'll see what the future brings.

Edited by EricE on Thursday 29th September 06:41

AndyWoodall

2,624 posts

258 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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For god sake, stop showing concepts and design and ship an EV, it seems absurd that it'll be 2020 before VAG have anything full EV to respond with. If Nissan can churn out the Leaf then it shouldn't be beyond the capability of one of the most advanced car companies in the world, I guess it shows just how far behind VAG is with regards to Tesla and Nissan.

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

219 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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RobDickinson said:
bmw i3



VW ID
As there is no need to cram a bulky ICE under the 'bonnet' anymore, I suspect they will all look like that initially.

bodhi

10,331 posts

228 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Personally, if this is the future I will be more than happy to be "stuck in the past". Much like every other EV ever designed, it looks like a tedious blob with no engine that drives itself.

Think I'd stick with a Golf GTI, personally.

muckyman

296 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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I wonder if anyone will actually achieve the upper end of the range - or is that just under certain simulated test conditions where a computer has been plugged in and calced it. Or maybe it was on a very long downhill section of hyper smooth tarmac with no traffic and a strong tail wind

loose cannon

6,028 posts

240 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Those wheels look like that rubber thing that used to be screwed to the kitchen cupboard,to hang your dishcloth on
And the body look's like it should have This sticker on it

ZesPak

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24,420 posts

195 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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muckyman said:
I wonder if anyone will actually achieve the upper end of the range - or is that just under certain simulated test conditions where a computer has been plugged in and calced it. Or maybe it was on a very long downhill section of hyper smooth tarmac with no traffic and a strong tail wind
It has a small IC engine in the spare wheel compartiment. It turns itself on during test conditions, don't worry, it only uses about 6l of heating oil every 100 miles.

donteatpeople

831 posts

273 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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AndyWoodall said:
For god sake, stop showing concepts and design and ship an EV, it seems absurd that it'll be 2020 before VAG have anything full EV to respond with. If Nissan can churn out the Leaf then it shouldn't be beyond the capability of one of the most advanced car companies in the world, I guess it shows just how far behind VAG is with regards to Tesla and Nissan.
Turns out they anticipated you displeasure and responded about three years ago:


AnotherClarkey

3,589 posts

188 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Yet more vaporware from VW. When will they actually get behind a concept and take the leap?

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

169 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Meanwhile, in the real world, the USA hit an all-time peak for gasoline consumption in August this year (all the experts thought they peaked years ago!).

ZesPak

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Friday 30th September 2016
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Is their any distribution on how that gasoline is used? Is it 90% cars? No idea.

If it is, the Model 3 could actually be a shift there.

oilspill

649 posts

192 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Dave Hedgehog said:
VW management "ok we have noticed Tesla made their EV's look good and are shifting them by the bucket load so do we make ours look good or look like a clown car such as the i3"

VW head of design "clown car!"
Or

VW Management " The BMW i3 is the 3rd best selling Ev of all time, won 2 world car awards, 2 Uk car awards, an IF product design award, it was one of the closest cars to its original concept, shall we have a slice of that cake? "

VW head of design " " [TBA it's still only a concept]

AH33

2,066 posts

134 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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It's VW so it probably actually runs on coal

ZesPak

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24,420 posts

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Friday 30th September 2016
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oilspill said:
Or

VW Management " The BMW i3 is the 3rd best selling Ev of all time, won 2 world car awards, 2 Uk car awards, an IF product design award, it was one of the closest cars to its original concept, shall we have a slice of that cake? "

VW head of design " " [TBA it's still only a concept]
1) Is it? Most are sold with a range extender. So not really full electric
2) Awards.. that's nice. My website thought of 70 awards last year and the i3 won none of them.
3) Many cars look like their concept... a lot of them had a very good looking concept.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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donteatpeople said:
Turns out they anticipated you displeasure and responded about three years ago:

They isn't the electric model it's the Yorkshire one.

E'up chuck!