996tt vs evora s

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douglasgdmw

488 posts

219 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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chriscoates81 said:
I don't understand how it can be a 2+2 with a mid-engined setup? Is the car as long as a transit or something?


Obviously not as far towards the driver as the usual mid-engined but still between the driver and the rear axle.



LotusAde

47 posts

122 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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I would go for the Evora out of those 2 based on looks both internal and externally, miles and age.

The Evora S is a very capable car and a lot quicker than the NA. I test drove an NA and owned an S for 3 years.

The 996 looks very dated inside and although the Evora is not the best quality and is a bit plasticky in places it still looks quite modern.

I would also prefer the Evora's reliability over the 996 when you look at that many miles and age.

Brinyan

382 posts

93 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Tuscanny, how did the drive go in the Evora? Intrigued to know your thoughts and also how it compares with your Noble - I'm a big Noble fan.

Tuscanny

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215 posts

126 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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Hi guys , well drove a n/a evora are Murray Lotus. It looked lovely in graphite grey. First impressions were very good handling is very noble like,I would think you could chuck this into a corner just as good as the noble . I think it is lacking power you always have your foot flat to the floor to gain any speed. Saying that it's not slow buy any means but next to a Noble it would be slow,the noble is seriously quick .
The evora has the best exhaust note though lovely sound .


Edited by Tuscanny on Wednesday 5th October 05:48

douglasgdmw

488 posts

219 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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Tuscanny said:
I think it is lacking power you always have your foot flat to the floor to gain any speed. Saying that it's not slow buy any means but next to a Noble it would be slow,the noble is seriously quick .
In that case the Evora S would be a better proposition, surprised that Murray's did not have one in stock to give you a back to back test drive?

Never realised your Scottish based, pop across to Scottish Elise's ( http://www.scottishelises.com/) as I am sure someone will easily give you a test ride if Murray's do not have one in stock.

Would recommend Craig Moncrieff cars ( http://craigmoncrieff.com/) for the servicing if you do go for the Evora, he and his mechanics know them inside out and a lot of the Scottish Lotus owners use him for their servicing.

George

AyBee

10,533 posts

202 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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DaveGB said:
That is a great looking car thumbup

And Evora OP!

Tuscanny

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215 posts

126 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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Had a run out in a 996 turbo 58000 miles and the power delivery is insane . I thought the noble was quick but this was felt quicker.
So still don't know what way to go. Do you think the 996 would be a better place to have your money. I am not to sure how much more the porsche will rise in value say over 5 years. What would the evora do in 5 years. I am only doing 3k miles a year.

g7jhp

6,964 posts

238 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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Tuscanny said:
Had a run out in a 996 turbo 58000 miles and the power delivery is insane . I thought the noble was quick but this was felt quicker.
So still don't know what way to go. Do you think the 996 would be a better place to have your money. I am not to sure how much more the porsche will rise in value say over 5 years. What would the evora do in 5 years. I am only doing 3k miles a year.
A 58k mile 996 turbo would be a much better buy longer term. They've hit the bottom of the depreciation curve and moved up again.

An Evora is still likely to depreciate.

Longer term a 996 turbo will out perform an Evora. It has the performance, build and heritage.




Digga

40,316 posts

283 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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g7jhp said:
Longer term a 996 turbo will out perform an Evora. It has the performance, build and heritage.
You only need consider the prices older 911 turbo variants now fetch, and then combine with the facts that the 996 turbo used the acclaimed and highly rated Mezger engine.

cypriot

475 posts

99 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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but surely a 100k miler 996t won't be one of the collectable ones? Plus, if this is the case, wouldn't one be afraid of driving it? evoras have pretty much bottomed out at around 30k anyway... they have been there for a few years now. depends what you want to do with the car really, and what kind of annual costs each one will bring. Interesting choice though!

Digga

40,316 posts

283 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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cypriot said:
but surely a 100k miler 996t won't be one of the collectable ones? Plus, if this is the case, wouldn't one be afraid of driving it? evoras have pretty much bottomed out at around 30k anyway... they have been there for a few years now. depends what you want to do with the car really, and what kind of annual costs each one will bring. Interesting choice though!
Who knows. If it's about 80k miles then 993 turbos of that mileage advertise around £100k right now.

g7jhp

6,964 posts

238 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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cypriot said:
but surely a 100k miler 996t won't be one of the collectable ones? Plus, if this is the case, wouldn't one be afraid of driving it? evoras have pretty much bottomed out at around 30k anyway... they have been there for a few years now. depends what you want to do with the car really, and what kind of annual costs each one will bring. Interesting choice though!
Pay attention cypriot. wink

OP said he's now looking at a car with 58k miles (rather than the original 97k miler).

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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Digga said:
cypriot said:
but surely a 100k miler 996t won't be one of the collectable ones? Plus, if this is the case, wouldn't one be afraid of driving it? evoras have pretty much bottomed out at around 30k anyway... they have been there for a few years now. depends what you want to do with the car really, and what kind of annual costs each one will bring. Interesting choice though!
Who knows. If it's about 80k miles then 993 turbos of that mileage advertise around £100k right now.
But the 993 looks lovely... the 996 doesn't.

Old Turbos are a completely different car. They were a bedroom poster car, with scary tales about how much of a handful they were. They defined excess back then... but a 996 Turbo? Surely the complete opposite.

Having said that, don't bet against a Porsche. Any snotter of a 911 seems to be worth money these days. Lotus have made some great cars, but none of them have appreciated over the long term.

Tuscanny

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215 posts

126 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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Yea it's a 58000 996 turbo tiptronic. I think the evora s has the looks against the porsche. You see porsche every day but not so much Evoras going around.
But I think the porsche will be worth more in 3 years time possibly.
I will be doing around 2k miles a year.
Can't decide .

renmure

4,242 posts

224 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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If you are only doing that low mileage, surely you want something that will give you the maximum enjoyment in the limited time you are behind the wheel.

I have had lots of Lotuses (not an Evora tho, I just don't like the look) but the thing you are guaranteed is great handling and great fun and a thrilling drive no matter what speed you are going.

I've also owned a 996 Turbo S, and whilst it is an absolutely fabulous piece of machinery the proper thrills come when you find yourself going at ballistic speeds since everything below that is just so totally competent.

stuno1

1,318 posts

195 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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Had to make a similar decision and went Evora s sports racer. The 996 is too dated for my taste and just didn't feel special to me to look at or be in. The Evora s also has a lot of tuning potential via komotec. I don't think the evoras will lose much money from where they are but they won't make money either.

BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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Surely they drive so completely differently that that trumps any question of value, depreciation and all that? Completely incomparable cars.
Bert

Brinyan

382 posts

93 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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renmure said:
If you are only doing that low mileage, surely you want something that will give you the maximum enjoyment in the limited time you are behind the wheel.

I have had lots of Lotuses (not an Evora tho, I just don't like the look) but the thing you are guaranteed is great handling and great fun and a thrilling drive no matter what speed you are going.

I've also owned a 996 Turbo S, and whilst it is an absolutely fabulous piece of machinery the proper thrills come when you find yourself going at ballistic speeds since everything below that is just so totally competent.

Totally agree with this.
As for where will the money be most secure, who knows? It's a punt. At the moment, I would guess that the value of both will stay similar for a while. Don't imagine they're going to increase huge amounts.
Providing you're enjoying the car, smiling whilst driving and you don't buy a dud, you can't ask for more.
I run a 996tt, but for such limited use that you're purchasing the car to do, smiles per mile I'd be heading down the Lotus road.

Tuscanny

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215 posts

126 months

Saturday 15th October 2016
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Thanks guys for your advice. Some very God points there.

e8_pack

1,384 posts

181 months

Saturday 15th October 2016
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I have never understood the 996 interior bashing. Everything is either leather coated or carbon/silver, weighty and well constructed, nice button feel and operation and a very well laid out dash and instruments. It doesn't look dated from the drivers seat and feels much more refined than any modern hire car I've had recently (BMW, A4, Insignia, 626)

Granted I have 997 GT3 alcantara seats and a pioneer head unit with Bluetooth, DAB etc, but they were all very simple upgrades.