GKN closing Westlands

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Elroy Blue

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8,689 posts

193 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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GKN have announced the closure of the helicopter manufacturing site at Yeovil. End of an era
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/nov/17/g...

mfmman

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184 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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GKN is only a small bit of the site isn't it?

What would be considered 'Westlands' is the greater part and is not closing as part of this decision is it?

egor110

16,902 posts

204 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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mfmman said:
GKN is only a small bit of the site isn't it?

What would be considered 'Westlands' is the greater part and is not closing as part of this decision is it?
I think they were saying 200 people to loose there jobs by the end of 2017 .

NigelStn

264 posts

168 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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GKN sold 'Westlands' many years ago to Agusta (now called Leonardo), but has an operation within the main site

Ed.

2,174 posts

239 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Is the typhoon the only UK built military aircraft now?

ChemicalChaos

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161 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Ed. said:
Is the typhoon the only UK built military aircraft now?
Dont forget the Hawk T2

hidetheelephants

24,577 posts

194 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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AW will presumably still be supplying the forces with Wildcat?

Elroy Blue

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193 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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The last Wildcat has been delivered, hence the closure of the airframe assembly plant.

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Don't forget they're still involved in Apaches as well.

Geneve

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220 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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NigelStn said:
GKN sold 'Westlands' many years ago to Agusta (now called Leonardo), but has an operation within the main site
Michael Heseltine had a notable bust up with Margaret Thatcher back in the mid-80s - he favouring a merger with Sikorsky, she favouring the merger with Agusta.

hidetheelephants

24,577 posts

194 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Maybe if they made choppers people want to buy...

IanH755

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121 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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They've got some world leading tech but stumble when it come to reliability/parts where sub-contractors let them down quite a bit. I worked on Merlin Mk3/Mk3A's for about 5 years and they weren't the most reliable bits of kit, even for helicopters, but the tech (when it worked) was amazing!

It looks like the NH90 range should be their main focus, after the UK only Wildcat, but even that doesn't seem to be selling as well as it should.

Rubber-Ducky

284 posts

206 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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Elroy Blue said:
The last Wildcat has been delivered, hence the closure of the airframe assembly plant.
No it hasn't.

ecsrobin

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166 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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IanH755 said:
They've got some world leading tech but stumble when it come to reliability/parts where sub-contractors let them down quite a bit. I worked on Merlin Mk3/Mk3A's for about 5 years and they weren't the most reliable bits of kit, even for helicopters, but the tech (when it worked) was amazing!

It looks like the NH90 range should be their main focus, after the UK only Wildcat, but even that doesn't seem to be selling as well as it should.
I think the NH90 programme has had more reliability issues than the Merlin!!!

lufbramatt

5,355 posts

135 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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ecsrobin said:
I think the NH90 programme has had more reliability issues than the Merlin!!!
Got a mate that was a Merlin tech at RAF Benson, apparently at one point they were so short of spares they cannibalised one aircraft to keep the others flying. Someone stuck the instructions for the Revell Merlin kit to the side of it, apparently a visiting MOD bod wasn't too impressed...

IanH755

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121 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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lufbramatt said:
Got a mate that was a Merlin tech at RAF Benson, apparently at one point they were so short of spares they cannibalised one aircraft to keep the others flying. Someone stuck the instructions for the Revell Merlin kit to the side of it, apparently a visiting MOD bod wasn't too impressed...
It was one of the Westlands Reps who did it when he left. He took the model kit out of the box and put it on a plinth with a engraved plaque saying "Here's that spare parts pack you kept asking for" (or words to that effect) and gave it to the Senior Engineering Officer of the Squadron (SEngO) who did see the funny side. His replacement a few years later however, didn't!

We had 3-4 on average at RAF Benson that were stripped of various parts to keep the others going but the "Depth Maintenance" at RNAS Culdrose (where the "annual" maint was done) had 10-15 in the same condition and each one was "robbed" of various spare parts until a "No Rob Option" was placed on it to allow it to be rebuilt. Spare parts were something that everyone wanted but Westlands and their sub-contractors could never supply enough of.