Wordpress Novice Build From Scratch Can It Be Done Lets See

Wordpress Novice Build From Scratch Can It Be Done Lets See

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Penelope Stopit

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11,209 posts

108 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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I know nothing about Wordpress and thought it a good challenge to attempt building a website using it
This could be fun yet I suspect it will be a very frustrating experience and will all end in tears
I will post things when or if I make some progress
At this point I have installed Wordpress at my web-host and that was not idiot proof which was dissapointing
There were settings to be adjusted from the defaults, I feel there should have been an idiot button for the best installation that would automate backups and updates
Having completed the above task I then had a selection of themes to choose from, I spent 5 minutes looking through a few and thought it best to move on and perhaps look through them all again in the future if I managed to succeed with this attempt

20 Minutes work on this up to now and I was given this following link on completion Administrative URL : http://*********.com/wp/wp-admin/ (Domain hidden to protect the innocent)

I typed my domain http://*********.com into the address bar and the following appeared in my browser window





I expected to see the theme I had selected appear in my browser window, as mentioned above, this could be very frustrating and will no doubt require many Google searches
Time for a drink

ecs

1,222 posts

169 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Your WordPress installation is in a directory called `wp` - you need to move all of the files from up a level from `wp` into `public` or `public_html` (or whatever it's called on your host).

Penelope Stopit

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11,209 posts

108 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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ecs said:
Your WordPress installation is in a directory called `wp` - you need to move all of the files from up a level from `wp` into `public` or `public_html` (or whatever it's called on your host).
Thank you for this, I was about to login to http://*******.com/wp/wp-admin/ with a Wordpress user/password I was given
I will follow your instructions and login to my host and move the files over
I'll be back

Penelope Stopit

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11,209 posts

108 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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I can login to my hosts control panel but can't get the file manager to work and I really did want to do this through my browser and not FTP it from my PC, there must be a fault server side somewhere
Will try again later

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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I thought you were a web developer.

Anyway, you're kindly proving my point that it's not quick if you've not done it before. smile (By quick, I mean about 1 hour.)

Penelope Stopit

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11,209 posts

108 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Hoofy said:
I thought you were a web developer.

Anyway, you're kindly proving my point that it's not quick if you've not done it before. smile (By quick, I mean about 1 hour.)
No i'm no web developer. What I have done is build plenty of HTML websites from what I have learnt from internet sites, I have got my head around Forms and capture/ Re-captcha and also managed to get Mysql databases installed and up and running, installing an Ajax search engine is another thing I am now able to do plus I can alter how a website appears using CSS and know how to add scroll and things like that

I am just me that am always prepaired to educate myself and listen to those that are able to help me
Your comment about the process not being quick for me to achieve has given me some motivation and I thank you for this as I do lose patience after a while
I will slowly attempt to move forward with this and not expect too much to happen in the near future


HappyMidget

6,788 posts

114 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Lookup modrewrite to get it sorted. Else just set it up on word press.com and add your hostname.

buggalugs

9,243 posts

236 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Hoofy said:
I thought you were a web developer.
If he's a web developer I'm... well I can't think of a good anaolgy right now lets just say that I don't think he's a web developer unless firing up Frontpage 2000 and saving an index.html to floppy disk once back in the day counts.

Penelope Stopit

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11,209 posts

108 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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HappyMidget said:
Lookup modrewrite to get it sorted. Else just set it up on word press.com and add your hostname.
Thanks, I couldn't find anything at my host to do with modrewrite and have never used it so I moved on and used your second method
I still have no access to file manager at my host so will probably have another go later
Before I logged into Wordpress I clicked on the folder that shows when I type in my Domain name in the browser address bar and ended up at http://*******.com/wp/
that showed the following



Having logged into Wordpress I ended up at http://*******.com/wp/wp-admin/index.php that suggested I needed some plugins installing and then activating for the theme I had selected when first installing Wordpress, I installed them, see below
The following plugins were activated successfully: Breadcrumb NavXT, Contact Form 7 and WP-PageNavi..
I now can see lots of options and below are a couple of images showing where I am up to




Thats my lot for today, I need to get my host sorted out so that I can move the Wordpress files into htdocs as was posted above by ecs

20 Minutes more spent making some progress Total = 40 Mins

Thank you to all for the help

Edited by Penelope Stopit on Thursday 1st December 21:00

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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So you took 40 minutes to set up WP? Not bad.

Impossible for someone who is not technically minded.

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

160 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Just move the whole site up a level in FTP, and if required you can edit one of the files to point to your new directory.

Most people bypass this with one click installs.

Can't quite understand why you are trying to FTP to your server through a browser though.

I can do WP in my sleep, which is ironic because I recently applied to do volunteer work. They wanted to update their old html site to a new WP site. But they would only let people apply if they had a Bsc in Computer Science or similar.

To install and setup Wordpress. And copy and paste content. For a charity. Madness.

MrOrange

2,031 posts

252 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Hoofy said:
So you took 40 minutes to set up WP? Not bad.

Impossible for someone who is not technically minded.
You could just go to WPEngine, put in your credit card details and press start. That's WP up and running in 2 mins flat, with SSL. All this FTP and faffing with hosting and modrewrite is so 1998.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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twoblacklines said:
Just move the whole site up a level in FTP, and if required you can edit one of the files to point to your new directory.

Most people bypass this with one click installs.

Can't quite understand why you are trying to FTP to your server through a browser though.

I can do WP in my sleep, which is ironic because I recently applied to do volunteer work. They wanted to update their old html site to a new WP site. But they would only let people apply if they had a Bsc in Computer Science or similar.

To install and setup Wordpress. And copy and paste content. For a charity. Madness.
Their loss.

Sounds like the management know fk all and are just playing it safe. I would recommend to them that they get no less that Tim Berners-Lee to install it. (Even if he may never have ever installed WP!)

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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MrOrange said:
Hoofy said:
So you took 40 minutes to set up WP? Not bad.

Impossible for someone who is not technically minded.
You could just go to WPEngine, put in your credit card details and press start. That's WP up and running in 2 mins flat, with SSL. All this FTP and faffing with hosting and modrewrite is so 1998.
Never heard of it! biggrin

$30 a month? biggrin

Derek Smith

45,514 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Penelope Stopit said:
Thank you for this, I was about to login to http://*******.com/wp/wp-admin/ with a Wordpress user/password I was given
I will follow your instructions and login to my host and move the files over
I'll be back
Let YouTube be your guide. A couple of hours listening to overacting self absorbed children is a high price, but it worked for me. I went from 15 years of html to WP in a couple of weeks.


TonyRPH

12,963 posts

167 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Hoofy said:
Never heard of it! biggrin

$30 a month? biggrin
For a basic package at that.

$99 for Professional and $249 for Business.

I note the upper end packages are POA.

Not cheap, is it?

And why is a supposedly UK (well, a UK domain at least) company quoting prices in dollars?


Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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TonyRPH said:
Hoofy said:
Never heard of it! biggrin

$30 a month? biggrin
For a basic package at that.

$99 for Professional and $249 for Business.

I note the upper end packages are POA.

Not cheap, is it?

And why is a supposedly UK (well, a UK domain at least) company quoting prices in dollars?
Yes, for the basic package. Crazy. I guess that's the price you have to pay for not having a clue. Undoubtedly many will pay because it's not easy to set up WP for someone who doesn't know about cpanel (or ftp), how to resize images, what a plugin is etc. So you either spend time (weeks?) learning or suck up the cost.

I did pay someone to investigate the problem with my cigarette lighter because I didn't know whether it was a problem with the fuse or not. Same thing I guess.

Bikerjon

2,202 posts

160 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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As mentioned, Wordpress.com is a good place to start just for focussing on Wordpress itself rather than all the faff that surrounds self-hosting. Most places do seem to offer 1-click installs these days, so it's not difficult. I've found Siteground to be good Wordpress hosts.

silobass

1,176 posts

101 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Do your hosts not have a cpanel thing where you can do a one click install?

Graham

16,368 posts

283 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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once you've got WP up and running, you need to research all the security hacks and tweeks you need to do, otherwise you'll probably get hacked as soon as they find your online.

its fairly straight forward to harden it but you do need to look at that. also make sure you put the updates in as they appear