Discussion
rosino said:
Why but why would you spec a radio delete in a road car. I just don't get it. To save what. All of 5kg in total? That's the fat on the owners waist line most likely. Just stupid sorry..
How much to retrofit PCM? Can't think it will be £20k. Probably no more than £5k....assuming it needs new looms though usually they still have the looms in there.LaSource said:
How much to retrofit PCM? Can't think it will be £20k. Probably no more than £5k....assuming it needs new looms though usually they still have the looms in there.
Correct, with the delete option you would need to fit the entire wiring looms. I would imagine that after buying the PCM itself you'd be looking at a lot of labour cost.Apparently its owned by a rally driver / racer of sorts, thats what I was told anyway, could be wrong. The Cardiff UV one has now sold, that was an ok spec and with steels but had the high maintenance light grey interior which personally I would avoid.
Looking at the ad again, this one also has the light grey interior, they've not spec'd the darker rimmed front lights and the brakes look well used (Is it just me?) for a car on 3k miles.
Edited by Fokker on Monday 20th March 13:11
Taffy66 said:
re the Swindon RS.. isn't the simple truth that it's being offered for £195k because he couldn't sell it for more? ..or are we missing something?
Yes you are missing the fact it does not have PCM..!.Deal breaker...Fokker said:
Exactly! The simple truth is that your audience is far more limited.
..you could always pay £2k more and get the PCM and zero mileage..http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
..from the pics he's in serious danger of MANY viewings from people wanting to nose round that garage! Two RS's as well.. someone has been a very good OPC customer in deed...
alphonso said:
Fokker said:
Exactly! The simple truth is that your audience is far more limited.
..you could always pay £2k more and get the PCM and zero mileage..http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
..from the pics he's in serious danger of MANY viewings from people wanting to nose round that garage! Two RS's as well.. someone has been a very good OPC customer in deed...
Fokker said:
Looking at the ad again, this one also has the light grey interior, they've not spec'd the darker rimmed front lights and the brakes look well used (Is it just me?) for a car on 3k miles.
I've never seen/noticed that light grey on RS's before.....not a good choice. Edited by Fokker on Monday 20th March 13:11
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a...
The engine is an evolution of the 4.0-liter naturally aspirated flat-six used in the 911 GT3 RS, which itself is a stroked version of the last GT3's motor. This new motor is actually largely similar to those used in current 911 race cars, including the brand-new RSR.
It makes 500 hp and 339 lb-ft of torque with a redline of 9000 rpm, which is the same for manual- and PDK-equipped cars. One of the biggest changes is a new, rigid valvetrain that doesn't use hydraulic lifters that's simpler than before, and interestingly, is less stiff than a conventional unit. This lack of stiffness means there's less resistance to turn the camshaft, which Preuninger says frees up eight horsepower.
Since there are no hydraulic actuators, the valves only need to be adjusted once, when the engine is built. Otherwise they're good for life. This valvetrain also requires less oil pressure and oil volume to run. Preuninger says the previous GT3's 3.8-liter unit requires 120 liters of oil circulating per minute. This new motor only requires 70 liters per minute, meaning there's more power to go to the tires.
For this motor, Preuninger and his team also developed a new intake system, a new oil pump, motorsports-inspired piston rings–made out of what Preuninger calls "Star Trek material"–and coated cylinder sleeves. All of this was done to improve throttle response, low- and mid-range torque and reduce inertia
"This engine for me, hands down, is maybe the best Porsche street engine ever made," said Preuninger.
Even counting the Carrera GT?
"That would be a close second" Preuninger says with a smile. "The immediacy of this engine is absolutely mind-boggling. From 2000 rpm all the way up to 9000 rpm, it's just a brute."
This engine is hooked up to a choice of two different transmissions–a seven-speed PDK that comes with an electronic differential, and a six-speed manual with a mechanical differential. The manual is an evolution of the new six-speed Preuninger and co. developed for the 911 R, but it doesn't share a part number. For the GT3, Porsche changed the flywheel and there's no option to get a single-mass flywheel, as on the R
And of course, Preuninger isn't about to forget the track rats either. There's a new GT3 RS on its way and, yes, it'll be PDK only.
The engine is an evolution of the 4.0-liter naturally aspirated flat-six used in the 911 GT3 RS, which itself is a stroked version of the last GT3's motor. This new motor is actually largely similar to those used in current 911 race cars, including the brand-new RSR.
It makes 500 hp and 339 lb-ft of torque with a redline of 9000 rpm, which is the same for manual- and PDK-equipped cars. One of the biggest changes is a new, rigid valvetrain that doesn't use hydraulic lifters that's simpler than before, and interestingly, is less stiff than a conventional unit. This lack of stiffness means there's less resistance to turn the camshaft, which Preuninger says frees up eight horsepower.
Since there are no hydraulic actuators, the valves only need to be adjusted once, when the engine is built. Otherwise they're good for life. This valvetrain also requires less oil pressure and oil volume to run. Preuninger says the previous GT3's 3.8-liter unit requires 120 liters of oil circulating per minute. This new motor only requires 70 liters per minute, meaning there's more power to go to the tires.
For this motor, Preuninger and his team also developed a new intake system, a new oil pump, motorsports-inspired piston rings–made out of what Preuninger calls "Star Trek material"–and coated cylinder sleeves. All of this was done to improve throttle response, low- and mid-range torque and reduce inertia
"This engine for me, hands down, is maybe the best Porsche street engine ever made," said Preuninger.
Even counting the Carrera GT?
"That would be a close second" Preuninger says with a smile. "The immediacy of this engine is absolutely mind-boggling. From 2000 rpm all the way up to 9000 rpm, it's just a brute."
This engine is hooked up to a choice of two different transmissions–a seven-speed PDK that comes with an electronic differential, and a six-speed manual with a mechanical differential. The manual is an evolution of the new six-speed Preuninger and co. developed for the 911 R, but it doesn't share a part number. For the GT3, Porsche changed the flywheel and there's no option to get a single-mass flywheel, as on the R
And of course, Preuninger isn't about to forget the track rats either. There's a new GT3 RS on its way and, yes, it'll be PDK only.
SFO said:
R5OHH said:
It will also be subject to VAT if a UK purchase..
Import duty tooBy buying these cars the outlay is cheaper but you'll pay for it when you come to sell it....false economy IMHO
alphonso said:
Fokker said:
Exactly! The simple truth is that your audience is far more limited.
..you could always pay £2k more and get the PCM and zero mileage..http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
..from the pics he's in serious danger of MANY viewings from people wanting to nose round that garage! Two RS's as well.. someone has been a very good OPC customer in deed...
Cheib said:
SFO said:
R5OHH said:
It will also be subject to VAT if a UK purchase..
Import duty tooBy buying these cars the outlay is cheaper but you'll pay for it when you come to sell it....false economy IMHO
it's win win.
Not only you get a car that sold out in U.K.,you also
save a few quid..
I might sent a few emails when a get a chance during the week.
Paul
paul0843 said:
Cheib said:
SFO said:
R5OHH said:
It will also be subject to VAT if a UK purchase..
Import duty tooBy buying these cars the outlay is cheaper but you'll pay for it when you come to sell it....false economy IMHO
it's win win.
Not only you get a car that sold out in U.K.,you also
save a few quid..
I might sent a few emails when a get a chance during the week.
Paul
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