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woollyjoe said:
so i had a good chat with my OPC and this is kind of how I heard the conversation in my head....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCFB2akLh4s
Had a good laugh at that! You still have a chance woollyjoe ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCFB2akLh4s
Phooey said:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a...
And of course, Preuninger isn't about to forget the track rats either. There's a new GT3 RS on its way and, yes, it'll be PDK only.
Good info. I think I'll pass on the 991.2GT3 and wait for the RS. And of course, Preuninger isn't about to forget the track rats either. There's a new GT3 RS on its way and, yes, it'll be PDK only.
miskalachi said:
franki68 said:
Snap, opc gets 7 cars this year,awaiting dealership director to decide.On a shortlist of 13 so hopeful if I don't get allocation this year,will get next year as they should get another 4-5 cars.
Noticed that your in Manchester so I'm guessing we could both be using the same OPC Hope we both get one!
Still heard nothing yet , I just want to know either way so I can sort a car out ,down for a gts if I get a no , but for what I would spend on the gt3 there are some amazing cars out there.
After a bit of chasing got told a no, worst thing was the patronising salesman who told me it was my fault for not buying all my recent cars at one dealership as well as being told "GT cars are invitation only" what a t
t. Every other year I buy 2 new cars and between my father and I, we have a buying history for new cars at well over 30 years. Last thing I need is some salesman talking to me like that, wasn't happy. Put a hold on all purchases from here, will stick to Ferrari going forward.
t. Every other year I buy 2 new cars and between my father and I, we have a buying history for new cars at well over 30 years. Last thing I need is some salesman talking to me like that, wasn't happy. Put a hold on all purchases from here, will stick to Ferrari going forward. 79TurboS said:
After a bit of chasing got told a no, worst thing was the patronising salesman who told me it was my fault for not buying all my recent cars at one dealership as well as being told "GT cars are invitation only" what a tt. Every other year I buy 2 new cars and between my father and I, we have a buying history for new cars at well over 30 years. Last thing I need is some salesman talking to me like that, wasn't happy. Put a hold on all purchases from here, will stick to Ferrari going forward.
Personally I'm a bit more 'glass half full' ! You have to be in these situationst. Every other year I buy 2 new cars and between my father and I, we have a buying history for new cars at well over 30 years. Last thing I need is some salesman talking to me like that, wasn't happy. Put a hold on all purchases from here, will stick to Ferrari going forward. Cheib said:
I think if you can get a car at list price then import it yourself it's potentially interesting....If by importing a car you ended up with a car built to your spec and it was within say 15% of UK list price not a bad option if the car is a keeper 
A few years back I imported an older GT3 from outside the EU where I had owned the car myself. There were no import duties or VAT provided the car was owned by me, was at least 6 months old/ 6000 miles, and I didn't sell it on in the UK for at least a year. The only difficult bit was the IVA process which required me to do some very silly things to get the car passed. I'm not sure if the IVA still applies if it is an EU import.This could be a route for some people if they are able to own a car outside the UK.
79TurboS said:
After a bit of chasing got told a no, worst thing was the patronising salesman who told me it was my fault for not buying all my recent cars at one dealership as well as being told "GT cars are invitation only" what a tt. Every other year I buy 2 new cars and between my father and I, we have a buying history for new cars at well over 30 years. Last thing I need is some salesman talking to me like that, wasn't happy. Put a hold on all purchases from here, will stick to Ferrari going forward.
I can understand how you feel. In contrast, I had a very different conversation with my OPC. He called me after my email enquiry which is a good start. He wanted to know my buying history and I was upfront with him saying I know he needed to look after his best customers and I had zero buying history with the OPC. But in a very open call he recognised I was a "proper" enthusiast (whatever our definition of that might be) and he would make a note to call me back if circumstances change in future.t. Every other year I buy 2 new cars and between my father and I, we have a buying history for new cars at well over 30 years. Last thing I need is some salesman talking to me like that, wasn't happy. Put a hold on all purchases from here, will stick to Ferrari going forward. I know that probably still means next to zero probability of getting a car but he'd dealt with me in a very polite and reasonable manner. I came away feeling not only that he was the kind of salesman I'd like to deal with but also that the brand has not completely written off guys like me.
79TurboS said:
After a bit of chasing got told a no, worst thing was the patronising salesman who told me it was my fault for not buying all my recent cars at one dealership as well as being told "GT cars are invitation only" what a tt.
Allegiance to one OPC alway potentially a problem.....eggs in one basket. All it takes is a change of franchise strategy or sales manager/DP with a different view to those departed and all the legwork is wasted.t. Not easy but it always pays to keep your options re OPCs open imo.
av185 said:
Allegiance to one OPC alway potentially a problem.....eggs in one basket. All it takes is a change of franchise strategy or sales manager/DP with a different view to those departed and all the legwork is wasted.
Not easy but it always pays to keep your options re OPCs open imo.
Well this is what happened, the people I knew including the DP all left. Now I'm left scratching around trying to get a car, all this strategising and game playing is tiring I just want a damn car. Kept my 991.1 gt3 for 3 years and did 10k miles, if I get one I will actually use it and keep the thing. Whole allocation process is a total joke, it should be centralised at Porsche GB as they can track who has bought what across all dealerships. Not easy but it always pays to keep your options re OPCs open imo.
79TurboS said:
Well this is what happened, the people I knew including the DP all left. Now I'm left scratching around trying to get a car, all this strategising and game playing is tiring I just want a damn car. Kept my 991.1 gt3 for 3 years and did 10k miles, if I get one I will actually use it and keep the thing. Whole allocation process is a total joke, it should be centralised at Porsche GB as they can track who has bought what across all dealerships.
Cant really help with the partonising salesperson , but from experience its very hard to get a car in the first round of allocations but there will likely be another 2 or 3 rounds of cars allocated to dealers and you may have a better chance of getting on of those so keep the dialogue open with the OPC. Just going of what happened with the 991.1 rs 79TurboS said:
av185 said:
Allegiance to one OPC alway potentially a problem.....eggs in one basket. All it takes is a change of franchise strategy or sales manager/DP with a different view to those departed and all the legwork is wasted.
Not easy but it always pays to keep your options re OPCs open imo.
Well this is what happened, the people I knew including the DP all left. Now I'm left scratching around trying to get a car, all this strategising and game playing is tiring I just want a damn car. Kept my 991.1 gt3 for 3 years and did 10k miles, if I get one I will actually use it and keep the thing. Whole allocation process is a total joke, it should be centralised at Porsche GB as they can track who has bought what across all dealerships. Not easy but it always pays to keep your options re OPCs open imo.
I think the fairest is for each OPC to get their own allocation but then make sure there is sensible logic to how the cars are allocated. Porsche GB should be able to in theory influence that but probably can't under each dealer's franchise agreement.
Cheib said:
That would work on the basis of "the best" 400 or so customers getting the cars but I don't think that would be great for the enthusiast...and you'd also probably not get any element of "you've had the last two GT cars so we now need to give a car to a new customer" which some OPC's are now doing.
I think the fairest is for each OPC to get their own allocation but then make sure there is sensible logic to how the cars are allocated. Porsche GB should be able to in theory influence that but probably can't under each dealer's franchise agreement.
Well I consider myself an enthusiast and a pretty good customer of the brand and nothing is working for me lol. Whole thing is a total lottery. Anyway after the initial bitterness/anger etc i'm ok with not having one, will just hope more allocations open up at some point. Not gonna lose any sleep over it. I think the fairest is for each OPC to get their own allocation but then make sure there is sensible logic to how the cars are allocated. Porsche GB should be able to in theory influence that but probably can't under each dealer's franchise agreement.
79TurboS said:
Well I consider myself an enthusiast and a pretty good customer of the brand and nothing is working for me lol. Whole thing is a total lottery. Anyway after the initial bitterness/anger etc i'm ok with not having one, will just hope more allocations open up at some point. Not gonna lose any sleep over it.
I can relate to the patronising salesman. I had a salesman ask me how many Porsches I owned currently, when I responded with "two", he scoffed and laughed, telling me I didn't stand a chance of getting a GT3.I subsequently asked him how many Porsches he owns, and whether that was the right approach to take to an already paying customer, especially as a salesmen that was very new to the company.
Oddly, I was showered with apologies after that. f
king prat.And I'm still waiting for an update about whether I'm entitled to spend £130k, it's wearing a little thin.
79TurboS said:
Well this is what happened, the people I knew including the DP all left. Now I'm left scratching around trying to get a car, all this strategising and game playing is tiring I just want a damn car. Kept my 991.1 gt3 for 3 years and did 10k miles, if I get one I will actually use it and keep the thing. Whole allocation process is a total joke, it should be centralised at Porsche GB as they can track who has bought what across all dealerships.
Did you not offer your GT3 (back?) to the OPC at a sensible figure so they could earn some money. This in itself would certainly not get you a new car but would no doubt help with a potential (future) allocation. OPCs generally like to have GT cars sitting around in their showrooms pulling in the punters.No way does Porsche what to get involved with OPC franchise customers...with the exception of black booking multi depositors and a minor interest in some flippers.....customer base is solely down to the OPCs and rightly so.
79TurboS said:
will stick to Ferrari going forward.
I don't think that'll turn out any better I am afraid - their good customers get the early slots as well so you could be waiting a while - and if yo think Porsche option prices can get out of hand.... by Ferrari standards in some cases they are amateurs (in terms of ££££)! Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff