2017 GTS (Manual or PDK)
Discussion
Thanks Fokker. The OPC has advised that for resale I need Bose, Heated Seats, Multi-function Steering Wheel & Parking Sensors. If I ditched all of them I would go RWS & GTS Interior.
Fokker said:
I have your spec in a .1 991 GTS. The GT Silver is stunning.
I have GTS interior pack with red stitching, it really makes a difference to the interior. I know some people don't think the carbon is worth it and I didn't used to think so but after speccing my gt4 with brushed aluminium, the carbon is a far better choice having had both.
Mine came to 105900 new in 2015. If resale is important to you then GTS interior pack is a must for only another 2k.on top of leather. If speccing for yourself then it's nice to have but go with your preference. Well done for changing the wheels to centre locks too!
I have GTS interior pack with red stitching, it really makes a difference to the interior. I know some people don't think the carbon is worth it and I didn't used to think so but after speccing my gt4 with brushed aluminium, the carbon is a far better choice having had both.
Mine came to 105900 new in 2015. If resale is important to you then GTS interior pack is a must for only another 2k.on top of leather. If speccing for yourself then it's nice to have but go with your preference. Well done for changing the wheels to centre locks too!
I have a similar gearbox dilemma. I could have an early April delivery slot but would need to lock down the spec pretty soon. I want to drive both PDK and manual at PEC first, but PEC have said ". . . the GTS models will be added to our fleet in the Spring." I have a manual 997GTS bought new in September 2011 and the gearbox is great. Don't have a problem with auto - my BMW has the 8 speed sport auto - but manual just seems to suit the 911. The 997 ratios (6 speed) coupled with short shift are perfect for me - not so sure about the 7 speed.
On the subject of residuals, the 997GTS manual seems to be holding its value better than the PDK version. Mine was £90k list, but bought for £80k because, at the time, OPCs wanted to clear stock to make way for the first 991 deliveries. An equivalent spec 991.2 GTS will be north of £105k and I'm not sure if this will hold its value, irrespective of the gearbox. Maybe I should not change - won't then have all the latest 'toys' to play with, but it's the driving that matters most.
On the subject of residuals, the 997GTS manual seems to be holding its value better than the PDK version. Mine was £90k list, but bought for £80k because, at the time, OPCs wanted to clear stock to make way for the first 991 deliveries. An equivalent spec 991.2 GTS will be north of £105k and I'm not sure if this will hold its value, irrespective of the gearbox. Maybe I should not change - won't then have all the latest 'toys' to play with, but it's the driving that matters most.
2010spy said:
My GTS has a sport design wheel with no buttons and its perfect for the car. I wouldn't say you need multi functional? Bose and parking sensors yes.
Also my car handles very well and never feels big, I don't see the need for RWS to be honest? Some say its good but at what, nine tenths?
I drive my car on some of the best roads in the UK (Wales) I don't think my car needs it?
I agree though that you need to stop the spec somewhere or it gets silly and who knows what the requirements will be for the new GTS in terms of desirable spec.
But IF residual is important to you, I suppose bear in mind that a lot of people will be using the GTS for day to day stuff not on track like a GT3 so the cabin detail might well be more important than RWS.
I know I wouldn't buy a car without GTS pack having had it. Also only one GT4 in the Porsche network has been sold from the 27 since Nov last year WITHOUT leather dash and doors tops which is a stark reminder that interior options are key and thats on a GT car which is supposed to be a little more spartan.
Edited by Fokker on Monday 23 January 11:37
2010spy said:
Thanks Fokker. I'm coming to the same conclusion. Looks like Bose & Sensors are key (they should be standard!).
With regard to interior, I'm putting Leather in, but not the GTS stitching (£2k plus)....
Have to lock down by 31st January so plenty of time to chnage my mind!
Either way you're buying a lovely car so enjoy it With regard to interior, I'm putting Leather in, but not the GTS stitching (£2k plus)....
Have to lock down by 31st January so plenty of time to chnage my mind!
I'm late to the party but here's my tuppence. I bought a manual 991 gts brand new and did 11k miles in it then got an ex demo pdk 991 gts and have done 14k miles in that. So I have plenty of experience of the 991 gts. I have also ordered a 991.2 gts for a may build.
I'm a manual man. I have a lot of cars, including plenty of porsches, and they're all manual. The only auto cars I've ever owned have been a van and an old range rover.
There were 2 things that really pissed me off about my first 991 gts: The roof and the gearbox. I had the glass panoramic roof and after a couple of months it squeaked and shimmyed and the car bodyshell felt soft. The 7 speed manual was the worst gearbox I've ever used. The gears don't line up.
It wasn't long before I couldn't stand the car any longer so I chipped it in against another one. This car has the solid steel roof and the body feels soooo much better; stiff and solid and taught, which makes the car more responsive and agile and alert. This car also has the pdk which I was very dubious about and was ready to hate but was prepared to give a go. It' s brilliant. I've had to eat humble pie with all my mates cos I've spent years slagging pdk. I've ordered my new gts with pdk.
My first gts had standard gts suspension, the one I have now has the even lower sports pasm. I have asked for that on my next one.
My first gts had full leather interior and seats. My current one is alcantara with silver gts package. It feels much more spcial so I have ordered my new one with a carmine red gts interior package.
Anything else you want to know?
I'm a manual man. I have a lot of cars, including plenty of porsches, and they're all manual. The only auto cars I've ever owned have been a van and an old range rover.
There were 2 things that really pissed me off about my first 991 gts: The roof and the gearbox. I had the glass panoramic roof and after a couple of months it squeaked and shimmyed and the car bodyshell felt soft. The 7 speed manual was the worst gearbox I've ever used. The gears don't line up.
It wasn't long before I couldn't stand the car any longer so I chipped it in against another one. This car has the solid steel roof and the body feels soooo much better; stiff and solid and taught, which makes the car more responsive and agile and alert. This car also has the pdk which I was very dubious about and was ready to hate but was prepared to give a go. It' s brilliant. I've had to eat humble pie with all my mates cos I've spent years slagging pdk. I've ordered my new gts with pdk.
My first gts had standard gts suspension, the one I have now has the even lower sports pasm. I have asked for that on my next one.
My first gts had full leather interior and seats. My current one is alcantara with silver gts package. It feels much more spcial so I have ordered my new one with a carmine red gts interior package.
Anything else you want to know?
The black roof does look good on a silver car. Mine was rhodium silver. I would suggest to get a steel roof and just put a black wrap on the roof. When the roof is open it looks s
t anyway cos it opens up and out. My current gts is lava orange with a plain steel roof. the car on order is miami blue with a plain steel roof. I actually took my silver car back to the dealer to complain about the squeaky roof and wobbly body. Porsche cannot solid mount a glass roof to the body sides because the glass would crack because of the twisting forces applied. So the glass roof is 'soft bonded' in to place. Hence the squeaks and wobbles. The steel roof can be solid mounted because it's obvs not going to crack. A solid mounted roof is obvs going to brace the bodyshell. The glass roofed might as well be a convertible soft top.
t anyway cos it opens up and out. My current gts is lava orange with a plain steel roof. the car on order is miami blue with a plain steel roof. I actually took my silver car back to the dealer to complain about the squeaky roof and wobbly body. Porsche cannot solid mount a glass roof to the body sides because the glass would crack because of the twisting forces applied. So the glass roof is 'soft bonded' in to place. Hence the squeaks and wobbles. The steel roof can be solid mounted because it's obvs not going to crack. A solid mounted roof is obvs going to brace the bodyshell. The glass roofed might as well be a convertible soft top.Interesting. I've not heard that before about the roof. Almost all the 911s in the OPC showroom had them fitted (I assume becuase of the 'look'). I also think it looks 'more 911' without the balck roof, keeping more of the natural lines. I'm largely being advised by the OPC who have done a 'perfect spec' if I chop it back into them next year....
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