Garden brick wall - rough cost for 2m x 10m?

Garden brick wall - rough cost for 2m x 10m?

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Andehh

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7,108 posts

206 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Struggling to find quotes, so just want to make sure the few I do have aren't a million miles off.

2m high, 10m long, double thickness, approx 3500 bricks. Midlands based, £230/day for 2 guys to do it?

Is that a fair starting point? I figure a week to do it?

EggsBenedict

1,770 posts

174 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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It might be helpful, might not, but I've just been quoted about 6.5K for a 32m wall 1 metre high 9" brickwork.

I'm in Kent

Harry Flashman

19,332 posts

242 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Interesting. I have just been quoted £6,600 for a 10m x 2m wall, rendered block, in London. Includes demolition and removal of the old brick wall (bricks are 30's rubbish rather than desirable Victorian/Edwardian, so I can't even sell them I think).

I said no as I thought this was pretty expensive. Which it is, if you can get 32m x 1m brick in the next county, for the same price

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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I was quoted £5000 for a single skin 30m long, 2m high brick wall or £6,500 for blockwork and rendered with 9" piers every 2m topped with concrete coping stones.

This was Dorset 4 years ago.

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Don't know about midlands prices but I think you should be looking at £400 per thousand bricks (labour only). That gives you £1400 for the labour. I'd expect a reasonable brickie to do 500 bricks per day.
The other way of looking at it is a complete price per square metre, materials etc included should be about £50 per m2 for half brick thick wall or £100 per m2 for a full brick thick.

Andehh

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7,108 posts

206 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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The bricks we need are to match the new build house bricks, fairly specialist bricks that themselves are £3,700 for 41sqm = 2m x 10m (x2 for the thickness).

Hoping to do it for £5-6k all in, but now I am doubtful...

One quote is for £230/day, another for £6,500 (!!). eeek....

edit: I think ill be looking at around 1600 bricks for what its worth.

Edited by Andehh on Wednesday 18th January 15:29

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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I've never seen a brickie get more than £500 per thousand ( though haven't done any building involving brickwork for a few years) so yours should be £1750 max for labour.
Are you asking a building firm or employing a brickie squad direct?

GG89

3,527 posts

186 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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£230 per day for a bricky and labourer is cheap, very cheap.

I know single bricklayers who are working onsite on £200 per day.. I'm in Glasgow though and our prices are closer to London than anywhere else in the UK.



Edited by GG89 on Wednesday 18th January 16:02

Rosscow

8,755 posts

163 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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GG89 said:
£230 per day for a bricky and labourer is cheap, very cheap.

I know single bricklayers who are working onsite on £200 per day.. I'm in Glasgow though and our prices are closer to London than anywhere else in the UK.



Edited by GG89 on Wednesday 18th January 16:02
£200 a day in Glasgow?! That's enough to buy a small house up there, isn't it?!

Little Lofty

3,288 posts

151 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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As a rough guide there are 60 bricks per M2. Your estimate of 5 days for 2 guys isn't far away, I'd go for that as long as they aren't planning on laying 100 per day.

GG89

3,527 posts

186 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Rosscow said:
GG89 said:
£230 per day for a bricky and labourer is cheap, very cheap.

I know single bricklayers who are working onsite on £200 per day.. I'm in Glasgow though and our prices are closer to London than anywhere else in the UK.



Edited by GG89 on Wednesday 18th January 16:02
£200 a day in Glasgow?! That's enough to buy a small house up there, isn't it?!
hehe

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Andehh said:
Struggling to find quotes, so just want to make sure the few I do have aren't a million miles off.

2m high, 10m long, double thickness, approx 3500 bricks. Midlands based, £230/day for 2 guys to do it?

Is that a fair starting point? I figure a week to do it?
I'd bite their hand off at that rate, that is incredibly low.
I'd be suspicious as to the quality of their work.
Site rates (£500+/1000) don't apply to your works, you'll be paying considerably more.

wolfracesonic

6,977 posts

127 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Putting costs aside OP, what do you mean 'double thickness'? If you mean 9'' thick, that's not really thick enough for a 2m high free standing high wall, unless you are incorporating plenty of pillars.

ETA just seen the quantities, so maybe 13'' thick?

Edited by wolfracesonic on Wednesday 18th January 18:33

Andehh

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7,108 posts

206 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Spudler said:
I'd bite their hand off at that rate, that is incredibly low.
I'd be suspicious as to the quality of their work.
Site rates (£500+/1000) don't apply to your works, you'll be paying considerably more.
Yeah, I was suspicious as they were based an hour away as well, so was wary on that front. They weren't willing to come out to look at the job, or discuss length of time required to finish it.

Struggling to find brick layers specifically, and most people willing to look at the job are 'builders' who will use some of their team to do the work.

Any recommendations for brickies in the midlands? Or ways of finding them!?


C Lee Farquar

4,067 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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How far are you from Banbury?

andrewturner

324 posts

215 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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I did 8m x 1.2m double skin with 3 piers in an ibstock multi and including skips and footings as 5m didn't have any it cost around £5.5k. That's in north Surrey. I had 3 quotes all within £200 of each other. Bricklayer we used was excellent and very pleased with the work. We also had a tile and crease finish the whole way along which added to labour. We didn't point it though.

Andehh

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206 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Thanks guys!

One question I do have, the wall will likely be around 2.1 - 2.2m tall if I have enough bricks for it, it is not a boundary wall, as my/shared driveway is on the other side of it. Am i still technically limited to 2m in height?

mikeiow

5,350 posts

130 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Andehh said:
Yeah, I was suspicious as they were based an hour away as well, so was wary on that front. They weren't willing to come out to look at the job, or discuss length of time required to finish it.

Struggling to find brick layers specifically, and most people willing to look at the job are 'builders' who will use some of their team to do the work.

Any recommendations for brickies in the midlands? Or ways of finding them!?
You may want to be a bit more specific than "the Midlands" if you want to find someone closer than an hour away.....

Andehh

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7,108 posts

206 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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mikeiow said:
Andehh said:
Yeah, I was suspicious as they were based an hour away as well, so was wary on that front. They weren't willing to come out to look at the job, or discuss length of time required to finish it.

Struggling to find brick layers specifically, and most people willing to look at the job are 'builders' who will use some of their team to do the work.

Any recommendations for brickies in the midlands? Or ways of finding them!?
You may want to be a bit more specific than "the Midlands" if you want to find someone closer than an hour away.....
Fair point, we are North Oxfordshire based! smile

mikeiow

5,350 posts

130 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Aha: fella I know in Leicester won't be much use then....but good luck!!