911 GT3 operating hours vs mileage

911 GT3 operating hours vs mileage

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S1MMA

2,378 posts

219 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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There was a thread a while back where Steve Rance gave some views on what the N/A GT3 engine can take. And basically to not be put off by the earlier rev ranges, the engines can take a lot more abuse than that. Getting to range 4 does mean it's definitely had a miss-shift, but only one according to the low ignitions and quite a number of hours ago is not really something to be overly concerned about. If it was quite a few ignitions and in range 5 or 6 then yes I'd be more concerned. Range 1-3 is nothing to worry about, 4 I'd be more concerned if the ignitions were high (in the thousands) and 5-6 you need to think more carefully.


civiclegend

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166 posts

170 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Thanks S1MMA. This guy doesn't have a story consistent with the car's ecu output as yet - which worries me more than the single overrev event, giving him the benefit of the doubt for now, but have full skeptical-goggles on. Looking elsewhere too.

braddo

10,462 posts

188 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Perhaps it's a case of the ECU having been replaced at some point (and therefore mileage unchanged but operating hours only since ECU change)? Could a Porsche dealer confirm if given the VIN?

996GT2

2,649 posts

210 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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S1MMA said:
There was a thread a while back where Steve Rance gave some views on what the N/A GT3 engine can take. And basically to not be put off by the earlier rev ranges, the engines can take a lot more abuse than that. Getting to range 4 does mean it's definitely had a miss-shift, but only one according to the low ignitions and quite a number of hours ago is not really something to be overly concerned about. If it was quite a few ignitions and in range 5 or 6 then yes I'd be more concerned. Range 1-3 is nothing to worry about, 4 I'd be more concerned if the ignitions were high (in the thousands) and 5-6 you need to think more carefully.
A far too sensible and pragmatic approach, we all know that engines with any rev ranges are knackered and not worth even 30% of a car with all 0s. smile


This GT3 sounds a bit fishy but surely a full inspection by a decent garage can provide some clues?

civiclegend

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166 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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So, some progress. The car in question has been to Porsche for an inspection, and amongst other good feedback from them, it turns out the ecu logfile sent by seller of the car, (in turn sent to him by his mechanic as saved on his computer) was out of date - by some 2 years and 150 running hours. So the logfile as read by Porsche states over 210 running hours since the incident, and over 620 hours in total - so the average speeds and the rest of the story now fit.

This is good news, the car has indeed been warranted twice since the incident (not Porsche but a decent independent), and will be again.

And I didn`t really want an R8! (Although I was kidding myself I would have been just as happy with one).


54Kab

69 posts

142 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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-cool. Starting to sound better... pics?

civiclegend

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166 posts

170 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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T.... tomorrow there will be!

civiclegend

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166 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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civiclegend

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166 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Crappy phone upload, but there you go! Utterly immaculate. Worth the stress.

54Kab

69 posts

142 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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Love the red. Funny how colours go through cycles of popularity. Don't see many 997 GT3 s in red. But I love 'em

VPD255M

144 posts

146 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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Congratulations, looks great in red. Such fantastic cars! enjoy...

supermono

7,368 posts

248 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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civiclegend said:
Sadly momentum carrying the revs over the threshold.
For the record when no input power exists either clutch or sparks the engine cannot continue to increase its RPM. It's a bit like saying if you can throw a ball really really hard it continues to accelerate after it's left your hand.

IF that's what you were saying -- just I've heard this misconception before. "If you take off with your foot on the floor the sudden increases in revs is so fast that the revlimiter can't react fast enough to stop overrevs" sort of thing.

Also I remember reading a piece from 911 virgin about hours and it seems around 30mph is on the mark for UK cars, and I'd be surprised even in Germany if that can be improved upon by 100%

(haha just read the last page of the post -- I'll leave my reply here anyway but of course some is now moot)

Dr S

4,997 posts

226 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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civiclegend said:
Its a Swiss/German (having spent half its life in each) car. So it could conceivably have done some serious Autobahn smashing, but those that drive those roads know they're rarely that fast... pretty jammed up, much like the UK, much of the time!
In Switzerland you struggle to get beyond 40 mp/h average over a longer time. Hence the average speed you mention does not compute

S1MMA

2,378 posts

219 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Congrats, what a beauty! Enjoy it mate

Digga

40,316 posts

283 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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54Kab said:
Love the red. Funny how colours go through cycles of popularity. Don't see many 997 GT3 s in red. But I love 'em
Does look great in red. Hope the new owners' going to be very happy with it. thumbup