Way over my mileage, one year into a PCP

Way over my mileage, one year into a PCP

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lecanonnier

Original Poster:

5 posts

86 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Hi,

So, I may have been a little silly. I ended up driving way more miles than I agreed to on my PCP deal (on a very standard Ford Fiesta Zetec). I'm just over one year in and I've done 21,000 miles - my agreement is for 12,000. I'm just wondering what my next move is...

As I've moved house, my commute is about 70 miles each day, plus family commitments, hence the high mileage. I'm better off financially than I was a year ago, when I took out the agreement, and as I'm doing so many miles it might make sense to get a second hand car where I don't need to worry about mileage per annum. But obviously I have this 12k agreement and I can't see a way of getting out of it now.

Does anyone have any experience of this kind of situation? Can I go to a different brand and still get them to buy the finance agreement as they want my business. What would I be looking at paying - something like the excess mileage charge?

I'm thinking of going to speak to another brand first, then Ford. Any advice would be very much appreciated!

numtumfutunch

4,721 posts

138 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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What is the excess mileage cost in your contract?

Easier to make rational decisions if we have the full facts smile

jen-apex

117 posts

119 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Have you contacted Ford in regard to upping the agreed mileage? I know a lot of manufacturers will happily increase the mileage, either free of charge or for around £5-20 extra on top of your monthly payment. It's around an average of 6p per excess mile depending on the manufacturer.

lecanonnier

Original Poster:

5 posts

86 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Hi,

I think the excess mileage is 8p per mile, but I know that's not necessarily what you end up paying if you renegotiate as they are eager for your business.

Really, just a bit extra each month? I know it adds up over time, but that sounds quite reasonable actually as I'm doing extra miles. I was put off because, when I Googled about increasing my annual mileage, I found a page which asked me to send a letter and wait for a reply, which kind of made me think I'd be shafted by them.

timbo999

1,293 posts

255 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Isn't quite an easy sum? 9000 miles at 8p per mile is £720 (unless my arithmetic is faulty...) divide that by 12 (as you've done that extra mileage in a year - I'm assuming its likely to be the same for the other years of the contract) and you get £60 extra each month.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Pay the extra mileage. And make sure your contract does not have a mileage cap or penalty.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Mileage only matters if your handing it back!

lecanonnier

Original Poster:

5 posts

86 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Cheers for the advice. I guess I'll speak to VW or someone and then Ford, see what they can do. Just don't want to get screwed over. I know there's always the option of terminating a PCP agreement once you've paid off half the value of the car, but I don't really want to do that as it sounds like a ballache and also slightly dishonest on my part (I know, not that car dealers wouldn't take advantage of these kind of rules if they could...)

Please keep the advice coming if you know anything about this sort of scenario!

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Granfondo said:
Mileage only matters if your handing it back!
This.

If you intend to keep the car (by paying the balloon) then mileage makes no difference.

akadk

1,497 posts

179 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
Granfondo said:
Mileage only matters if your handing it back!
This.

If you intend to keep the car (by paying the balloon) then mileage makes no difference.
this.

and even if you PX it at the end, the RV may still equal the balloon given they build in some bubble for equity into the next

don't worry about it

PCP is not PCH

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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lecanonnier said:
Cheers for the advice. I guess I'll speak to VW or someone and then Ford, see what they can do. Just don't want to get screwed over. I know there's always the option of terminating a PCP agreement once you've paid off half the value of the car, but I don't really want to do that as it sounds like a ballache and also slightly dishonest on my part (I know, not that car dealers wouldn't take advantage of these kind of rules if they could...)

Please keep the advice coming if you know anything about this sort of scenario!
If you try to change now you a WILL be "screwed over" because PCPs are designed to go full term.
If it's the fact you don't like the car and just want a change then find out the settlement figure from Ford finance then get a WBAC valuation (sit down when you do this) and take it from there!

lecanonnier

Original Poster:

5 posts

86 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Granfondo said:
If you try to change now you a WILL be "screwed over" because PCPs are designed to go full term.
If it's the fact you don't like the car and just want a change then find out the settlement figure from Ford finance then get a WBAC valuation (sit down when you do this) and take it from there!
Oh really? I thought they would be interested in doing a deal early (maybe not this early!) so that they could secure another 3-year PCP. I know after about 18 months on my last PCP they were ringing me all the time to sign up to a new agreement...

I guess it's hard to know. Weirdly, as my car (well, the finance company's car) is still so new, it doesn't make too much difference to the value if I've done 12k or 21k miles. But I imagine that's just a quirk of the really steep depreciation curve and I doubt I have any equity for a new deal. I suppose I'll just have to go and talk to these salesmen - who'll then talk to their manager, and come back to me saying 'he's not happy, but you've boxed him into a corner on this one blah blah blah' as they offer me a terrible deal.

I do think Kia (or was it Hyundai?) are on to something with their marketing idea of buying a car online, with no negotiation. Obviously that's not going to work right now when the system is geared towards sales from showrooms, but maybe some time soon... Fingers crossed. :-)

cheeky_chops

1,588 posts

251 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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voluntary termination might be an option...

http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/showthread.php...

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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cheeky_chops said:
voluntary termination might be an option...

http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/showthread.php...
Not after 12 months!

cheeky_chops

1,588 posts

251 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Granfondo said:
Not after 12 months!
But it will be an option when they have paid 50% of credit?

GreatGranny

9,124 posts

226 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Firstly give the finance company a ring.

Ask if they can increase the mileage and how much will it be.

Also ask what are the options for handing back early.
I'm sure you will be hit with penalties if you have paid less than 50% of the total amount payable.

I'm over on my Leaf but Nissan Finance don't allow you to increase the mileage allowance so I will have to pay the 8ppm excess when I hand it back.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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cheeky_chops said:
Granfondo said:
Not after 12 months!
But it will be an option when they have paid 50% of credit?
Yes at about month 30-33!

Shore

412 posts

88 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Get it clocked before it's next service so it doesn't show

Granfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Shore said:
Get it clocked before it's next service so it doesn't show
Mileage correction not clocked! biggrin

stuartie

1 posts

68 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Hi

Is there a cap on extra miles you can do on pcp, or can you do as much as you want if you plan on px it with a different company at the end of contract.

Thanks