'Evolve' remap on E9x series 335i auto - any experiences?

'Evolve' remap on E9x series 335i auto - any experiences?

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wax lyrical

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881 posts

240 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Has anyone had the Evolve remap applied to their 335i and if so, any advice/ experiences you can share? Any reliability issues?

I am seriously considering thinking this.

rockford22

357 posts

131 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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wax lyrical said:
Has anyone had the Evolve remap applied to their 335i and if so, any advice/ experiences you can share? Any reliability issues?

I am seriously considering thinking this.
Had my N54 remapped by Evolve last year, very happy, no issues. Chaps were friendly, had wifi, did a before and after dyno. They had their white Evolve M5 in at the time, what a noisy beast that was (running quite high power I believe).

Around town and on low throttle the car drives as standard, on full throttle the car pulls noticeably harder at all revs. It's much the same power delivery, I seem to notice a touch more turbo lag now but the car retains a very flat torque curve and linear power delivery. We capped mine at 360bhp (they could have achieved more) but with the dual clutch transmission I'd rather be safe than sorry.

I absolutely love my mapped N54, I struggle to think of what will replace it when the time comes.

wax lyrical

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881 posts

240 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Thanks! That's really helpful. Did it improve the throttle response (that half-second lag between pressing the pedal and the car responding)? Mine's an auto though. That bugs me a bit.

Also, have you had any issues with the car handling the extra power in terms of traction?

rockford22 said:
Had my N54 remapped by Evolve last year, very happy, no issues. Chaps were friendly, had wifi, did a before and after dyno. They had their white Evolve M5 in at the time, what a noisy beast that was (running quite high power I believe).

Around town and on low throttle the car drives as standard, on full throttle the car pulls noticeably harder at all revs. It's much the same power delivery, I seem to notice a touch more turbo lag now but the car retains a very flat torque curve and linear power delivery. We capped mine at 360bhp (they could have achieved more) but with the dual clutch transmission I'd rather be safe than sorry.

I absolutely love my mapped N54, I struggle to think of what will replace it when the time comes.

rockford22

357 posts

131 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Unfortunately the throttle lag that seems inherent with modern BMW's is still there, the remap didn't touch that. The car does feel a touch less responsive, I put this down to peak boost (and therefore maximum "Shove") taking slightly longer to build. Could be wrong but it was one of the things I remember telling my mate as I described the remap to him once I got back from Evolve.

Putting the power down? In the dry with my ContiSport Contact 6 tires traction is not a concern, it will fly off the line with not so much as a hint of wheel spin. In the wet (especially cold weather - these are summer tires after all) then yes it can squirm around a little, it's all very predictable and I've never been caught out though - you'll need to meter out the throttle a little bit more than before, full throttle at low speeds will almost always provoke some slip (again, depending on rubber and conditions).

Personally I'd recommend the map wholeheartedly, transforms an already fast car in to something with that extra bit of fizz in the rev range. At road legal speeds you certainly wouldn't want for more power in my opinion.

ETA: I should say this is all based on an E89 Z4. Can't imagine it is hugely different in a 3 series but as they say, your experience may vary!

Let us know if you go ahead and your thoughts!

Edited by rockford22 on Monday 27th February 16:23

Smuler

2,286 posts

138 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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@ Rockford, you probably know this but as a former 335i DCT owner , when I felt throttle response was below par I did the throttle adaptions reset. I don't have the instructions to hand , but they were much debated on E90 post and it worked for me. Did it fairly early on in ownership , mine was never tuned.

Crackie

6,386 posts

241 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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I had an Evolve map on my manual N54 E92. The graph Evolve use on their website is the one from my car. http://www.evolveautomotive.com/evolve-ecu-remap-p...

Never had an issue in the 50k miles I had the car for; the last 45k miles were with the map. Very quick from 2k to 5.5k revs, no flat spots, no temperature increase relative to stock. Great map.


jelluzz

35 posts

151 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Smuler said:
@ Rockford, you probably know this but as a former 335i DCT owner , when I felt throttle response was below par I did the throttle adaptions reset. I don't have the instructions to hand , but they were much debated on E90 post and it worked for me. Did it fairly early on in ownership , mine was never tuned.
Had a similar issue on my 135i DCT, flashed the stage 1 BMW PPK flash on the car and it removed the throttle lag immediately... but its only a 20bhp and 17 lb/ft bump...

stuart-b

3,643 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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rockford22 said:
Unfortunately the throttle lag that seems inherent with modern BMW's is still there, the remap didn't touch that. The car does feel a touch less responsive, I put this down to peak boost (and therefore maximum "Shove") taking slightly longer to build. Could be wrong but it was one of the things I remember telling my mate as I described the remap to him once I got back from Evolve.

Putting the power down? In the dry with my ContiSport Contact 6 tires traction is not a concern, it will fly off the line with not so much as a hint of wheel spin. In the wet (especially cold weather - these are summer tires after all) then yes it can squirm around a little, it's all very predictable and I've never been caught out though - you'll need to meter out the throttle a little bit more than before, full throttle at low speeds will almost always provoke some slip (again, depending on rubber and conditions).

Personally I'd recommend the map wholeheartedly, transforms an already fast car in to something with that extra bit of fizz in the rev range. At road legal speeds you certainly wouldn't want for more power in my opinion.

ETA: I should say this is all based on an E89 Z4. Can't imagine it is hugely different in a 3 series but as they say, your experience may vary!

Let us know if you go ahead and your thoughts!

Edited by rockford22 on Monday 27th February 16:23
Interesting feedback on the tyres. I have the MPSS on my 35iS and I do not have much grip in a straight line - better in corners. This is because the tyre isn't suited for the camber we run, the Jap guys have the same issues with the MPSS. I'm tempted to switch to the CSC6 next rather than buying the MPS4. Thanks!

wax lyrical

Original Poster:

881 posts

240 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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I tried the throttle adaption reset protocol on my 335i auto last night and it definitely seems to have made a difference! smile

Everyone should try it and report back:

for BMWs:

1. Never touch the break pedal & key remains inserted the entire time
2. Insert key and push START Button
3. Press and HOLD gas pedal for 5 seconds
4. WITHOUT RELEASING THE GAS PEDAL, push the START Button
5. Release gas pedal
6. Wait full 2 minutes
7. Start car normally


Smuler said:
@ Rockford, you probably know this but as a former 335i DCT owner , when I felt throttle response was below par I did the throttle adaptions reset. I don't have the instructions to hand , but they were much debated on E90 post and it worked for me. Did it fairly early on in ownership , mine was never tuned.

rockford22

357 posts

131 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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stuart-b said:
Interesting feedback on the tyres. I have the MPSS on my 35iS and I do not have much grip in a straight line - better in corners. This is because the tyre isn't suited for the camber we run, the Jap guys have the same issues with the MPSS. I'm tempted to switch to the CSC6 next rather than buying the MPS4. Thanks!
In the summer (dry or wet) the straight line grip is best I have ever experienced. I think group tests place them a fraction behind MPSS for cornering speeds but above in most other areas...I'm really happy with them.

Just for the hell of it I did it the throttle reset this morning (I have done it on previous BMW's). Drive in to work seemed a little better but I know from experience it won't get to the level I expect.

I'm tempted to get the car in to the local Indy for the latest SIB updates, have heard that can improve things (car is out of warranty and service pack since June last year).




Silverbullet767

10,680 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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I would recommend a JB4, you can fit it yourself and is fully adjustable & switchable from the steering wheel.

Been running mine for a couple of years now without any issues.