Differences between the 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8 and 997.2 GT3 + GT4
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Can someone tell me what are the big differences between the 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8 vs 997.2 GT3 3.8. I know the difference in aero, weight, power and slightly wider track. But is there also a difference in the gearbox, suspension and brakes (steel ones) between those two cars...?
The 997.2 GT3 RS is my all time favourite car, but so expensive at this time and out of my legeau. A 997.2 GT3 3.8 is now in de same price range as a used Cayman GT4...which one would you guys prefer between those two and why? It's mainly for trackdays and small percentage of street... I already have a great daily car (BMW M2).
The 997.2 GT3 RS is my all time favourite car, but so expensive at this time and out of my legeau. A 997.2 GT3 3.8 is now in de same price range as a used Cayman GT4...which one would you guys prefer between those two and why? It's mainly for trackdays and small percentage of street... I already have a great daily car (BMW M2).
7.2 gt3 is a legend but gt4 is more capable out of the box.
If this is predominantly a track car, I would go Gt4 but this is based on my preference for mid engined layout. You can't go wrong either way.
although bear in mind that the Gt4 has new car warranty but if you are intent on modding the car, then maybe a sound Gt3 is the way to go.
If this is predominantly a track car, I would go Gt4 but this is based on my preference for mid engined layout. You can't go wrong either way.
although bear in mind that the Gt4 has new car warranty but if you are intent on modding the car, then maybe a sound Gt3 is the way to go.
isaldiri said:
Same brakes. The RS has a short final drive and a longer 6th gear to equalize that.
7.2gt3 every day over the gt4. Not even close between the 2 imo.
Why; what do you like better on the 997.2 GT3...please don't say because it is a 911 7.2gt3 every day over the gt4. Not even close between the 2 imo.
I have only driven a 997 GT3 RS and hopefully I get to testdrive the GT4 this year.
HokumPokum said:
7.2 gt3 is a legend but gt4 is more capable out of the box.
If this is predominantly a track car, I would go Gt4 but this is based on my preference for mid engined layout. You can't go wrong either way.
although bear in mind that the Gt4 has new car warranty but if you are intent on modding the car, then maybe a sound Gt3 is the way to go.
No mods...I would like to keep it standard and only do brake pads or brake oil if necessary... I would also think that the more recent GT4 was more capable out of the box.If this is predominantly a track car, I would go Gt4 but this is based on my preference for mid engined layout. You can't go wrong either way.
although bear in mind that the Gt4 has new car warranty but if you are intent on modding the car, then maybe a sound Gt3 is the way to go.
mdianuk said:
He wanted a track car though, with very little daily use, making the GT4 an exceptionally good option. Both great cars though.
If the OP wanted a car used for a lot of daily use with very little track use then I agree the gt4 would likely be the best option. not the other way round imo.Franzino said:
Why; what do you like better on the 997.2 GT3...please don't say because it is a 911
I have only driven a 997 GT3 RS and hopefully I get to testdrive the GT4 this year.
Don't worry the 911 thing does nothing for me despite owning one (I have that car almost in spite of being a 911!).I have only driven a 997 GT3 RS and hopefully I get to testdrive the GT4 this year.
The 7gt3 is a car that has much more driver 'feel' for lack of a better word and imo offers a much greater connection to the driver. I think on the same tyre the 7.2gt3 is still ultimately the quicker car than the gt4 on track but the gt4 will be the easier car to drive quickly as it's a very well balanced car and forgiving car on track. The gt4 will chew up front tyres very quickly though unless you do some modding on the front suspension.
The 7.2 RS is a bit better everywhere than the 7.2gt3 but they are very close, certainly more than the difference in value suggests. If I wasn't lucky enough to have bought one before the crazy current values, I'd be more than happy to get the 7.2 gt3 and save the difference for trackdays and messing about with various bits of the car.
Edited by isaldiri on Saturday 4th March 20:12
isaldiri said:
Don't worry the 911 thing does nothing for me despite owning one (I have that car almost in spite of being a 911!).
The 7gt3 is a car that has much more driver 'feel' for lack of a better word and imo offers a much greater connection to the driver. I think on the same tyre the 7.2gt3 is still ultimately the quicker car than the gt4 on track but the gt4 will be the easier car to drive quickly as it's a very well balanced car and forgiving car on track. The gt4 will chew up front tyres very quickly though unless you do some modding on the front suspension.
The 7.2 RS is a bit better everywhere than the 7.2gt3 but they are very close, certainly more than the difference in value suggests. If I wasn't lucky enough to have bought one before the crazy current values, I'd be more than happy to get the 7.2 gt3 and save the difference for trackdays and messing about with various bits of the car.
I loved the standard suspension and brakes of the 977.2 GT3 RS on track... If those are already the same on the 997.2 GT3 then that is a good thing The 7gt3 is a car that has much more driver 'feel' for lack of a better word and imo offers a much greater connection to the driver. I think on the same tyre the 7.2gt3 is still ultimately the quicker car than the gt4 on track but the gt4 will be the easier car to drive quickly as it's a very well balanced car and forgiving car on track. The gt4 will chew up front tyres very quickly though unless you do some modding on the front suspension.
The 7.2 RS is a bit better everywhere than the 7.2gt3 but they are very close, certainly more than the difference in value suggests. If I wasn't lucky enough to have bought one before the crazy current values, I'd be more than happy to get the 7.2 gt3 and save the difference for trackdays and messing about with various bits of the car.
Ofcourse it has to be a GT3 or GT4 with clubsport package...
isaldiri said:
mdianuk said:
He wanted a track car though, with very little daily use, making the GT4 an exceptionally good option. Both great cars though.
If the OP wanted a car used for a lot of daily use with very little track use then I agree the gt4 would likely be the best option. not the other way round imo.Franzino said:
isaldiri said:
Don't worry the 911 thing does nothing for me despite owning one (I have that car almost in spite of being a 911!).
The 7gt3 is a car that has much more driver 'feel' for lack of a better word and imo offers a much greater connection to the driver. I think on the same tyre the 7.2gt3 is still ultimately the quicker car than the gt4 on track but the gt4 will be the easier car to drive quickly as it's a very well balanced car and forgiving car on track. The gt4 will chew up front tyres very quickly though unless you do some modding on the front suspension.
The 7.2 RS is a bit better everywhere than the 7.2gt3 but they are very close, certainly more than the difference in value suggests. If I wasn't lucky enough to have bought one before the crazy current values, I'd be more than happy to get the 7.2 gt3 and save the difference for trackdays and messing about with various bits of the car.
I loved the standard suspension and brakes of the 977.2 GT3 RS on track... If those are already the same on the 997.2 GT3 then that is a good thing The 7gt3 is a car that has much more driver 'feel' for lack of a better word and imo offers a much greater connection to the driver. I think on the same tyre the 7.2gt3 is still ultimately the quicker car than the gt4 on track but the gt4 will be the easier car to drive quickly as it's a very well balanced car and forgiving car on track. The gt4 will chew up front tyres very quickly though unless you do some modding on the front suspension.
The 7.2 RS is a bit better everywhere than the 7.2gt3 but they are very close, certainly more than the difference in value suggests. If I wasn't lucky enough to have bought one before the crazy current values, I'd be more than happy to get the 7.2 gt3 and save the difference for trackdays and messing about with various bits of the car.
Ofcourse it has to be a GT3 or GT4 with clubsport package...
I have not driven a GT4 so cannot comment on that. This was my old bus:
RDMcG said:
I wold agree with everything Isadrl h as said...a little bit more downforce on the 7.2 RS, - I had one for four years. In particular the current premium of the RS over there GT3 is certainly not justified by differences in performance, and it takes a very good driver to access that difference.I drove a regular GT3 and the difference was not very noticeable.
Thanks for the insight...Just out curiosity; why did you sell it...?
Franzino said:
Can someone tell me what are the big differences between the 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8 vs 997.2 GT3 3.8. I know the difference in aero, weight, power and slightly wider track. But is there also a difference in the gearbox, suspension and brakes (steel ones) between those two cars...?
The 997.2 GT3 RS is my all time favorite car, but so expensive at this time and out of my leagea. A 997.2 GT3 3.8 is now in de same price range as a used Cayman GT4...which one would you guys prefer between those two and why? It's mainly for trackdays and small percentage of street... I already have a great daily car (BMW M2).
1) Airbox and intake The 997.2 GT3 RS is my all time favorite car, but so expensive at this time and out of my leagea. A 997.2 GT3 3.8 is now in de same price range as a used Cayman GT4...which one would you guys prefer between those two and why? It's mainly for trackdays and small percentage of street... I already have a great daily car (BMW M2).
2) Dynamic engine mounts
3) More forgiving Traction Control
4) Shorter gearing in the RS, meaning a gt3 with mods doing the same power will be slower than the GT3RS
5) Plastic (don't recall the name) back window aka more engine noise and more light weight.
6) Lightweight Flywheel
7) Less sound deadening
8) Solid mounts (I think)
9) Shock controller in the RS is much better making it much more comfortable than the gt3, suspension wise (mod it to a dsc sport unit)
Plus the revisions of random parts. These are the major ones.
EDIT: If you want a gt3 to be similar to a gt3 rs, just get a lwfw and clutch from the 4.0 when it's time to change add a decent differential, get solid mounts everywhere (wevo for the engine), get some kw coilovers, headers and you are good to goo. A different car every time you make a mod so you don't get feed up with it.
Edited by luigisayshello on Saturday 4th March 21:03
Edited by luigisayshello on Saturday 4th March 21:05
It's a tough question as all the 600 GT4 owners chose the car over a 997.2 GT3.
And most could swap into a Gen 2 GT3 but don't.
So no right and wrong imo.
You just need to buy what gets you the most excited.
PS I have just seen you have an M2 , I would sell that and buy a GT4 unless you need 4 seats.
Or if you are happy with that car go more hard core with the track car.
And most could swap into a Gen 2 GT3 but don't.
So no right and wrong imo.
You just need to buy what gets you the most excited.
PS I have just seen you have an M2 , I would sell that and buy a GT4 unless you need 4 seats.
Or if you are happy with that car go more hard core with the track car.
Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 5th March 09:58
Porsche911R said:
It's a tough question as all the 600 GT4 owners chose the car over a 997.2 GT3.
And most could swap into a Gen 2 GT3 but don't.
So no right and wrong imo.
You just need to buy what gets you the most excited.
PS I have just seen you have an M2 , I would sell that and buy a GT4 unless you need 4 seats.
Or if you are happy with that car go more hard core with the track car.
I need a more practical (trunk space and folding rear seats) and low profile car as my daily ride to go to work. For the price; the M2 is a great daily car with massive levels of fun. A GT4 is to unpractical for me to use on a daily basis, otherwise it would indeed make sense to safe money and get a GT4 instead of the M2.And most could swap into a Gen 2 GT3 but don't.
So no right and wrong imo.
You just need to buy what gets you the most excited.
PS I have just seen you have an M2 , I would sell that and buy a GT4 unless you need 4 seats.
Or if you are happy with that car go more hard core with the track car.
Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 5th March 09:58
I was also thinking in the same direction as you and maybe I should look at something more extreme if it's a more track orientated car to have besides the M2....a Lotus Exige cup or Exige 380 are two very nice and fast alternatives. Maybe the upcoming M2 CS is the best of both worlds and some sort of GT4, but in a more practical M2 package... Would be awesome! Still I always had a weak spot for the 997.2 GT3 and GT4. If money was not an object I would definitely get a 997.2 GT3 RS or the future GT4 RS...but hey I'm not complaining with my current garage
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