Emissions and restrictions on modern classics.

Emissions and restrictions on modern classics.

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Major Fallout

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5,278 posts

231 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Classics and older are usually exempt and will be in future restrictions, but thats leaving a lot of modern classics in the firing line.

Most TVRs, Porsches, morgan, so on and so on. Are they going to be outlawed till they become old enough to be classed as a classic?

Keep it stiff

1,765 posts

173 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Outlawed, why?

See this link for emissions summary including age related tables.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Major Fallout said:
Classics and older are usually exempt and will be in future restrictions, but thats leaving a lot of modern classics in the firing line.

Most TVRs, Porsches, morgan, so on and so on. Are they going to be outlawed till they become old enough to be classed as a classic?
Your "modern classic" is somebody else's "old car". There's a clear line drawn for what counts for exemptions, and what doesn't. No matter where that line's drawn, somebody will think it's the wrong place, and their <insert cherished shed here> should be included. Including opinion in it - "This 1990s car is exempt because I like 'em" - will NEVER, EVER work or result in agreement...

If a Rover v8 in a Morgan or TVR is acceptable, why wouldn't it be in a Range Rover?
If a 1990s Range Rover's acceptable, why shouldn't a 1990s Shogun be?

If a K-series in an Elise or Morgan is acceptable, why wouldn't it be in a Rover 200 or Freelander?
If a 1990s Rover 200 or Freelander are acceptable, why shouldn't a 1990s Golf or Vitara be?

If a K-series Elise is acceptable, why shouldn't a Toyota-powered one be, so why shouldn't a Corolla or RAV be?

Vicious circle, isn't it...?

Major Fallout

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5,278 posts

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Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Sorry my ramblings don't make a lot of sense, must have been a bit hard of thinking yesterday.

I was thinking about cities like Paris after they banned vehicles registered before the year 2000 in a bid to combat pollution in the city. But classic cars are exempt.

If that sort of thing happens here, we are going to have problems with some very interesting cars. Like you say my "modern classic" is somebody else's "old car" and visa versa. And no-one is going to or could make the decision on who's car fits in what box.


So when do I sell my modern classic and buy something older?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Major Fallout said:
So when do I sell my modern classic and buy something older?
Perhaps an easier solution is just not to drive into the centre of the cities? Park outside, and use... <stage whisper> public transport?

Allan L

783 posts

105 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Major Fallout said:
If that sort of thing happens here, we are going to have problems with some very interesting cars. Like you say my "modern classic" is somebody else's "old car" and visa versa. And no-one is going to or could make the decision on who's car fits in what box.
If this forum is any guide, there also seems to be a problem with "modern classics" which is that many owners are basically special builders and whatever the manufacturer intended has been lost.
What's more I'd guess that even those who fit more modern engines to their middle-aged cars don't fit the catalytic converters that those engines once had.
I've nothing against special building as such, provided it doesn't muddy the construction and use waters for the rest of us.

Major Fallout

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Thursday 23rd March 2017
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So you don't think they will try to open the city ban to a uk ban?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Major Fallout said:
So you don't think they will try to open the city ban to a uk ban?
No.