I doubt i will ever own a new GT car

[breadvan]

ted 191 said:

Porsche should sit down with all OPC's and go through ;

A. Criteria for getting a car, and make it available for customers to see.

B. stipulate when a deposit should be paid.

At present different OPC's are saying different things to different people, this needs sorting to stop customers going on the net and spouting rubbish.

Today I have asked for my deposit refunding, after 32 years dealing with OPC, buying 7 cars recently, inc turbo s, cayenne, panamera etc, still not got a car in the first allocation.................I will not play this game.

Doesn't sound like there's much more you could do?

Regarding parity between the dealers, I don't really see the point, most people don't care or need to care what the ordering process is with an OPC at the other end of the country. Surely, it better spending quality time with the process decision maker at your OPC and meeting their criteria?

It sounds like you should know them well enough to get a frank answer as to why it didn't work.

Good luck, sincerely.

ETA, have you had a GT car before? Perhaps you're in for the RS that's all over the net today?

Edited by breadvan on Wednesday 29th March 20:19

Edited by breadvan on Wednesday 29th March 20:46

[PhantomPH]

woollyjoe said:

PhantomPH said:

Really, the thread title should be, "I Doubt I will ever own a GT car that I have been able to walk in to my OPC and buy as owner 1 on the V5".

That, instead of "a new GT car"?

Ha ha - yeah, my bad. The thread title was truncated when I wrote that reply, so I missed some of the end.

[isaldiri]

breadvan said:

Perhaps you're in for the RS that's all over the net today?

if one isn't getting a mere gt3, I think it's probably reasonable to expect that person isn't going to 'qualify' for a RS either no matter how much quality time spent with the dealer principal......

[breadvan]

isaldiri said:

breadvan said:

Perhaps you're in for the RS that's all over the net today?

if one isn't getting a mere gt3, I think it's probably reasonable to expect that person isn't going to 'qualify' for a RS either no matter how much quality time spent with the dealer principal......

Not at all. Being offered both cars will be even harder than a 991R. Either or (imho).

FWIW, one thing my OPC uses to select punters is LOIs for ONE car only. None of this - please can I have the next Spyder, GT4, GT3, GT3 RS, GT3 T, GT2 etc, etc.

[isaldiri]

breadvan said:

Not at all. Being offered both cars will be even harder than a 991R. Either or (imho).

FWIW, one thing my OPC uses to select punters is LOIs for ONE car only. None of this - please can I have the next Spyder, GT4, GT3, GT3 RS, GT3 T, GT2 etc, etc.

imho, the people who always get the rare/limited cars will continue to do so as they are the important/favoured/high spending OPC customers. Good of your OPC if they are doing the above but that's very much not the case in a lot of others I'd say.

[breadvan]

isaldiri said:

imho, the people who always get the rare/limited cars will continue to do so as they are the important/favoured/high spending OPC customers. Good of your OPC if they are doing the above but that's very much not the case in a lot of others I'd say.

Which is exactly my point earlier.

Find out what YOUR OPC is doing and work to that.

If you don't know how your OPC selects it's customers, I suggest you'll never get a car (seriously, I'm trying to help fellow phers here).

Edited by breadvan on Wednesday 29th March 23:40

[ted 191]

I'm not interested in getting a GT3 RS.

[Cheib]

breadvan said:

Not at all. Being offered both cars will be even harder than a 991R. Either or (imho).

FWIW, one thing my OPC uses to select punters is LOIs for ONE car only. None of this - please can I have the next Spyder, GT4, GT3, GT3 RS, GT3 T, GT2 etc, etc.

Yup, I think that's a pretty easy way for them to weed out who really wants a particular car. My OPC also has told me they're rotating allocations so if you've had an RS, R or GT4 you aren't likely to get a GT3.

[Digga]

woollyjoe said:

PhantomPH said:

Really, the thread title should be, "I Doubt I will ever own a GT car that I have been able to walk in to my OPC and buy as owner 1 on the V5".

That, instead of "a new GT car"?

Yes, because we all know you could get an effectively 'new', flipped car with barely more than delivery mileage. If you want to pay the premium.

[Jumpingjackflash]

ted 191 said:

Porsche should sit down with all OPC's and go through ;

A. Criteria for getting a car, and make it available for customers to see.

B. stipulate when a deposit should be paid.

At present different OPC's are saying different things to different people, this needs sorting to stop customers going on the net and spouting rubbish.

Today I have asked for my deposit refunding, after 32 years dealing with OPC, buying 7 cars recently, inc turbo s, cayenne, panamera etc, still not got a car in the first allocation.................I will not play this game.

If you Do not get a car then I have no chance! No wonder you are upset.

[Digga]

woollyjoe said:

deep down, it's an impossible situation for the OPC.

This also is true, and for Porsche themselves too.

[isaldiri]

Woollyjoe, i hope you aren't being entirely serious about the above.....

People are trying to spend ~£130k to buy a car and they need to first find an OPC salesperson as a mate? Really? Having the means to buy a car of course doesn't entitle one to get a car I agree (the hand wringing at not being able to get a car here is quite entertaining sometimes) but I'm also not going to beg and scrape for a car or kid myself that a salesperson I may or may not get along with is going to put me higher than any number of other customers he's going to be on equally good terms with too.

[Budflicker]

Trust me, main dealer car salesman are not your mates, they don't earn a lot of money and what they do earn they get from selling you cars with as much profit/finance/swissvax in them as possible.

Of course they are nice to you, you are their bread and butter, but it's just a job selling metal. Don't get me wrong, the Porsche fan in me tells me that my dream job would be a Porsche salesman and thinks it would be great fun, driving and talking about Porsches all day with like minded people, watching the happiness on their faces when they collect their new car that I have ensured is presented perfectly.

However the sensible bit of me then kicks in and reminds me that it would actually be mostly mind numbing sales meetings talking about targets and margins, league tables with the other staff, deadlines, PC crap to deal with, jumped up people in chords and Rolexes flashing how fantastic they are, arrogant self important prats expecting the earth and all for not a lot of wages at the end of the month.

So when your salesman gets home to his two bed Barrett's flat on some non-descript new estate do you really think he smiles and thinks, oh great Wolleyjoe might pop in tomorrow for a chat and a coffee to see if I will let him spend £135k on a GT3 or not. (not that i get a lot of say in it as the DP got the 1st one and he decides the rest as well, which is no good for my commission)

[Jumpingjackflash]

I might not be able to buy a brand new GT car and I will not pay a premium for a any car. I already own a manual 911 Turbo and there are lot of great cars to buy for £100-150k from Aston and Ferrari etc. Porsche used to be the preferred choice due to reliability but they have never been as reliable as they were made out to be and even Ferrari's are a lot more reliable these days. My Aston gets a good thrashing and I have had no problems so far.

[Murcielago_Boy]

ted 191 said:

Porsche should sit down with all OPC's and go through ;

A. Criteria for getting a car, and make it available for customers to see.

B. stipulate when a deposit should be paid.

At present different OPC's are saying different things to different people, this needs sorting to stop customers going on the net and spouting rubbish.

Today I have asked for my deposit refunding, after 32 years dealing with OPC, buying 7 cars recently, inc turbo s, cayenne, panamera etc, still not got a car in the first allocation.................I will not play this game.

You say it like it's a big deal, "but buying 7 cars recently" is nothing. There are a **lot** of big players out there and they order that many in one go....

[spyker138]

Greed. Greedy marketing, greedy dealers and yes, greedy owners. It's a silly game we're getting sucked into. Even the EVO and other magazines are playing their part in the great baiting exercise - every model seems that much 'better' than the last one.

There are a huge number of terrific cars in the classifieds most of which are far more capable than any of us to drive them, and lots are cheaper to run with fewer gizmos to rip you off in years to come. Go drive them.

[WCZ]

Budflicker said:

Trust me, main dealer car salesman are not your mates, they don't earn a lot of money and what they do earn they get from selling you cars with as much profit/finance/swissvax in them as possible.

Of course they are nice to you, you are their bread and butter, but it's just a job selling metal. Don't get me wrong, the Porsche fan in me tells me that my dream job would be a Porsche salesman and thinks it would be great fun, driving and talking about Porsches all day with like minded people, watching the happiness on their faces when they collect their new car that I have ensured is presented perfectly.

However the sensible bit of me then kicks in and reminds me that it would actually be mostly mind numbing sales meetings talking about targets and margins, league tables with the other staff, deadlines, PC crap to deal with, jumped up people in chords and Rolexes flashing how fantastic they are, arrogant self important prats expecting the earth and all for not a lot of wages at the end of the month.

So when your salesman gets home to his two bed Barrett's flat on some non-descript new estate do you really think he smiles and thinks, oh great Wolleyjoe might pop in tomorrow for a chat and a coffee to see if I will let him spend £135k on a GT3 or not. (not that i get a lot of say in it as the DP got the 1st one and he decides the rest as well, which is no good for my commission)

"get me on the list and I'll give you £5k cash" should do the job.
would be really surprised if this hasn't happened.

[ted 191]

Murcielago_Boy said:

ted 191 said:

Porsche should sit down with all OPC's and go through ;

A. Criteria for getting a car, and make it available for customers to see.

B. stipulate when a deposit should be paid.

At present different OPC's are saying different things to different people, this needs sorting to stop customers going on the net and spouting rubbish.

Today I have asked for my deposit refunding, after 32 years dealing with OPC, buying 7 cars recently, inc turbo s, cayenne, panamera etc, still not got a car in the first allocation.................I will not play this game.

You say it like it's a big deal, "but buying 7 cars recently" is nothing. There are a **lot** of big players out there and they order that many in one go....

I'm not saying it's a big deal or a little deal....it is what it is, and it's not about the amount of cars I've bought, more to do with the length of time I have (had) been dealing with them.

[n17ves]

ted 191 said:

Porsche should sit down with all OPC's and go through ;

A. Criteria for getting a car, and make it available for customers to see.

B. stipulate when a deposit should be paid.

At present different OPC's are saying different things to different people, this needs sorting to stop customers going on the net and spouting rubbish.

Today I have asked for my deposit refunding, after 32 years dealing with OPC, buying 7 cars recently, inc turbo s, cayenne, panamera etc, still not got a car in the first allocation.................I will not play this game.

Im assuming Leeds JCT600

And if so, I also assume they took your 10k deposit and sent you a New car order form with Comms number?

[n17ves]

WCZ said:

"get me on the list and I'll give you £5k cash" should do the job.
would be really surprised if this hasn't happened.

Or have a holiday home on the east coast that is available to use...