Where are all the 997.1 GT3s

Where are all the 997.1 GT3s

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kith

564 posts

245 months

Saturday 30th March
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A couple of nice looking comforts have been hanging around for a while, anyone know any background on these two?

https://www.auto100.co.uk/used-car-details/used-po...

https://www.mbmotorsales.com/cars/8a42aa9987c7828c...

RC1

4,098 posts

219 months

Sunday 31st March
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dont know the cars in question but to many prospective buyers they are 'high' mileage and not CS
with spring around the corner if i was in the market id be waiting for more to come on and to see how much an equivalent CS would cost before deciding whether to pony up the extra 10k (as it was when i bought mine about 6 years ago) difference for a CS over a non-CS

Digga

40,329 posts

283 months

Sunday 31st March
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kith said:
A couple of nice looking comforts have been hanging around for a while, anyone know any background on these two?

https://www.auto100.co.uk/used-car-details/used-po...

https://www.mbmotorsales.com/cars/8a42aa9987c7828c...
Mileage is par for course on this age, but above ‘collector’ levels.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with comfort spec, unless you really want to track a lot, in which case buckets are essential. For road trips and touring, comfort is great, but you always sell a clubsport easier.

Whatever you buy, get an inspection done, if it’s not from one of the known, trusted Porsche GT specialists.

VPD255M

144 posts

146 months

Sunday 31st March
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anyone know the number of UK Clubsport Vs Comfort ?

Koln-RS

3,865 posts

212 months

Sunday 31st March
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VPD255M said:
anyone know the number of UK Clubsport Vs Comfort ?
Is it not the case that there is no such thing as a 997 GT3 ‘comfort’ or GT3 ‘club sport’ ?

I thought Porsche created one model, and the ‘club sport’ pack simply optimised certain features for track use. And the term ‘comfort’ is a PH evolved expression for cars that don’t have the ‘cs’ pack?


VPD255M

144 posts

146 months

Sunday 31st March
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Koln-RS said:
Is it not the case that there is no such thing as a 997 GT3 ‘comfort’ or GT3 ‘club sport’ ?

I thought Porsche created one model, and the ‘club sport’ pack simply optimised certain features for track use. And the term ‘comfort’ is a PH evolved expression for cars that don’t have the ‘cs’ pack?
Yes you're right, let me re-phrase it.

Anyone know how many were supplied with the CS option pack?

lasuze

53 posts

163 months

Monday 1st April
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VPD255M said:
Yes you're right, let me re-phrase it.

Anyone know how many were supplied with the CS option pack?
A question that has been asked many times before I believe without any definitive answer.

I know Reading (PCGB) were approached but could not supply the numbers.

True to assume however that CS option was the minority.

ChrisW.

6,314 posts

255 months

Monday 1st April
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I recall that the 03 Clubsport package included a drivers harness, rear roll cage and fire extinguisher in the passenger footwell ... and it was a no cost option on the GT3 ... though a cost option on the 981GT4 (which took me by surprise when I bought mine). Hence a reason why "clubsport" optioned 981GT4's are fairly scarce. Fitting a roll cage to a non 03 GT4 was a real PITA because the shell in white did not have the mounting points ...

Hence there was some value in the free 03 option on GT3's and a reason why there were more of them ... and strangely the flexibility of the non-03 option was partially lost once the folding bucket seats were no longer available in the later GT3's.

Devil.Z

62 posts

101 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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ChrisW. said:
I recall that the 03 Clubsport package included a drivers harness, rear roll cage and fire extinguisher in the passenger footwell ... and it was a no cost option on the GT3 ... though a cost option on the 981GT4 (which took me by surprise when I bought mine). Hence a reason why "clubsport" optioned 981GT4's are fairly scarce. Fitting a roll cage to a non 03 GT4 was a real PITA because the shell in white did not have the mounting points ...

Hence there was some value in the free 03 option on GT3's and a reason why there were more of them ... and strangely the flexibility of the non-03 option was partially lost once the folding bucket seats were no longer available in the later GT3's.
My understanding is if was a no cost option if you had optioned the carbon buckets?

rrroro

395 posts

155 months

Friday 12th April
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Devil.Z said:
ChrisW. said:
I recall that the 03 Clubsport package included a drivers harness, rear roll cage and fire extinguisher in the passenger footwell ... and it was a no cost option on the GT3 ... though a cost option on the 981GT4 (which took me by surprise when I bought mine). Hence a reason why "clubsport" optioned 981GT4's are fairly scarce. Fitting a roll cage to a non 03 GT4 was a real PITA because the shell in white did not have the mounting points ...

Hence there was some value in the free 03 option on GT3's and a reason why there were more of them ... and strangely the flexibility of the non-03 option was partially lost once the folding bucket seats were no longer available in the later GT3's.
My understanding is if was a no cost option if you had optioned the carbon buckets?
Correct, also the Clubsport option gave different door cards too, minus door bins. Weight saving must be massive from that wink

There’s a red herring in the brochure around battery cut off, supposedly the 997 GT3 Clubsport has this but I don’t believe it does… Possibly a cut and paste error by the marketing department intern, from the 996 GT3 brochure

Digga

40,329 posts

283 months

Friday 12th April
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rrroro said:
Correct, also the Clubsport option gave different door cards too, minus door bins. Weight saving must be massive from that wink
Different door cards because with teh carbon buckets, the side airbags are in doors, rather than seatback on comfort seats. The lack of door bin storage is the one thing that's really a minus over my old 996 turbo.

rrroro said:
There’s a red herring in the brochure around battery cut off, supposedly the 997 GT3 Clubsport has this but I don’t believe it does… Possibly a cut and paste error by the marketing department intern, from the 996 GT3 brochure
Yes, I have never seen a 997.1 with one factroy standard. Do they actually exist?...

rrroro

395 posts

155 months

Friday 12th April
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Digga said:
rrroro said:
Correct, also the Clubsport option gave different door cards too, minus door bins. Weight saving must be massive from that wink
Different door cards because with teh carbon buckets, the side airbags are in doors, rather than seatback on comfort seats. The lack of door bin storage is the one thing that's really a minus over my old 996 turbo.

That makes sense, I thought omitting the door bins was a bit of a strange thing to do…

rrroro said:
There’s a red herring in the brochure around battery cut off, supposedly the 997 GT3 Clubsport has this but I don’t believe it does… Possibly a cut and paste error by the marketing department intern, from the 996 GT3 brochure
Yes, I have never seen a 997.1 with one factroy standard. Do they actually exist?...
Nope, don’t think so, I wonder if the RS has it. Where’s Stu… Calling all 7.1 RS owners…

PRO5T

3,956 posts

25 months

Friday 12th April
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No cut off on a 997 RS

LiquidRS

12 posts

68 months

Friday 12th April
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No fuel cut-off switch on the RS. I don't think there are side airbags in the door either, the extra padding was added to the door armrest to negate the removal of the seat bag on the single piece seats

s_mcneil

935 posts

195 months

Friday 12th April
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My Euro Spec 997.1RS has the internal battery cut off switch (see here under steering wheel)



And the manual cut off switch at the battery terminal.


Digga

40,329 posts

283 months

Friday 12th April
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s_mcneil said:
My Euro Spec 997.1RS has the internal battery cut off switch (see here under steering wheel)



And the manual cut off switch at the battery terminal.

Both non-OEM?

s_mcneil

935 posts

195 months

Friday 12th April
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OEM - 997.611.027.70



Digga

40,329 posts

283 months

Friday 12th April
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s_mcneil said:
OEM - 997.611.027.70

Every day is a school day. thumbup

rrroro

395 posts

155 months

Friday 12th April
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So to summarise my understanding, the 997.1 GT3 and Clubsport (presumably 997.2 too) don’t have the battery cut off, that’s fine

And nor do UK spec 997 RS… However euro spec 997 RS’s do seem to have it. Was this as standard? Stu do you know if your car left the factory like this, or was it a mod?

s_mcneil

935 posts

195 months

Friday 12th April
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According to VIN, from factory:

Vehicle Equipment Number (MR) 199 - Battery Disconnect Switch