996-997 wet-sump engine reliability: enter your stats here!

[tonikaram]

Here's some points I'd like to share:

1- on mobile.de, a website where I spend a substantial amount of time, I have the impression that there are alot of Porsches advertised with a replaced engine, more than 1 in 10 (more). Cars with accidents are also stated up front, not much margin for lies or hiding things there.
Therefore the percentage isn't that low after all, unless that pool of data (people who sell) have a higher concentration of replaced engines.

2- I too am put off by cars that had had an engine replaced, for the reason that Baz put extremley well:

hartech said:

we all would still prefer to buy a car that has never had a fault - in the hope that this means it never will.

Exactly. I am very put off by advertisements saying "I paid 10,000Euros in the last 2 years to get the car into the top notch condition it has today". why was all this done in the first place? To put things it already had? The less work the car has had done the better, and no doubt about it for me (not a typical Porsche thinking).
On the other hand, a 996 owner once told me "it's like a normal car", he hadn't changed the clutch since new at 90,000Kilometers, nor the engine nor anything else, just a 300 or 400 Euros check up every year. Now that's the dream Porsche ownership and, for me, a much more desirable car than the regular "new clutch new blablabla new brakes new etc" that were all done not sure where by not sure who, envolving not sure how much unmounting and mounting, unscrewing and screwing of not sure how many parts and panels, but incidently has an OPC stamp at the end of the service book saying "checked" as if this meant the car was Weissach new again...

Kay

[tonikaram]

I'm back from a 3 week holiday.

Let me compile this new data as soon as a I get a chance and get back to you.

Kay

[tonikaram]

Current stats:

Out of 68 996's:
- 14.7% or 10 engine failures (six 3.4 and four 3.6)
- 54% or 37 cases have had RMS. When you have it, you get it on average 1.3 times.
- 38% or 26 cases have had none of these two problems (fifteen 3.4s, ten 3.6, one unspecified).
In the survey, there are twenty-eight 3,6s, thirty-six 3.4s, and four unspecified

I do think that even if the actual percentage was much less, say 1/4th of this percentage, it is still rather concerning. I am surprised.

RMS distribution:
1998 5 RMS out of 7 cars in survey
1999 7 RMS out of 12 cars in survey
2000 3 RMS out of 9 cars in survey
2001 4 RMS out of 6 cars in survey
2002 7 RMS out of 11 cars in survey
2003 6 RMS out of 9 cars in survey
2004 0 RMS out of 4 cars in survey
10 entries in the stats didn't specify the year. 5 were affected by RMS.

engine failure distribution:
1998 2 failures out of 7 cars in survey
1999 3 failures out of 12 cars in survey
2000 0 failures out of 9 cars in survey
2001 1 failures out of 6 cars in survey
2002 2 failures out of 11 cars in survey
2003 0 failures out of 9 cars in survey
2004 1 failure out 4 cars in survey
10 entries didn't specify the year, 1 with a failure.


[i]Dataset:
ID enginefailure failuremileage rms rmsmileage currentmileage enginesize year username
1 1 failure 3 RMS 36 3.6 2002 xTVR
2 1 failure no RMS 48 3.4 1998 siko
3 no failure 1 RMS 55 3.6 2001 Wetwipe
4 no failure no RMS Bumcrack
5 no failure 1 RMS Wanta996
6 no failure 1 RMS Wanta996
7 no failure 1 RMS Wanta996
8 no failure 1 RMS 18 30 3.6 2002 steve996
9 no failure 1 RMS 55 64 3.4 1998 jonny996
10 no failure 1 RMS 53 56 3.4 1999 Ballcock
11 no failure 1 RMS 26 3.4 2001 2something
12 1 failure 10 1 RMS 50 3.4 1999 fastfreddy
13 1 failure 25 No RMS 25 3.6 2004 hussar10a
14 no failure 3 RMS 25 3.6 2003 Dreammeister
15 no failure 1 RMS 3.6 Geneve
16 no failure no RMS 3.4 Geneve
17 no failure 2 RMS 3.6 2002 whoami
18 no failure no RMS 11 3.6 2004 C4SCAB
19 no failure 1 RMS 62 3.4 1999 HONEYMON57ER
20 no failure no RMS 7 3.4 2000 mbutchers
21 no failure no RMS 5 3.6 2003 mbutchers
22 no failure 1 RMS 18 3.6 2003 mbutchers
23 no failure 1 RMS 40 60 3.4 1999 nbetts
24 no failure no RMS 25 3.6 2003 nbetts
25 no failure 1 RMS 30 3.4 2000 R1_JON
26 no failure no RMS 3.4 Homer J
27 no failure 2 RMS 35 3.6 2003 deevee
28 1 failure 29 1 RMS 29 3.6 2002 joelasagna
29 no failure 1 RMS 48 3.6 2002 baptistsan
30 no failure no RMS 55 3.4 1999 The Griffalo
31 no failure no RMS 19 3.4 2000 Ir Baboon
32 no failure 1 RMS 30 68 3.4 2000 Vesuvius 996
33 no failure 1 RMS 42 3.4 DucatiGary
34 no failure no RMS 24 3.6 2004 andrew!
35 no failure no RMS 66 3.4 1998 EVO575
36 no failure no RMS 95 3.4 1999 Ogiii
37 no failure 3 RMS 45 3.6 2001 thepilsbury
38 no failure no RMS 32 3.6 2002 wadfa
39 no failure no RMS 67 3.4 1999 LeeME3
40 no failure no RMS 17 3.6 2004 widebody
41 1 failure 86 no RMS 3.4 1999 italiansummer
42 no failure 1 RMS 27 3.6 2003 alxce
43 1 failure 70 1 RMS 3.4 1998 TheMonster
44 no failure 1 RMS 15 3.6 2003 fulham911club
45 no failure 1 RMS 11 3.4 1999 Jessica_Wabbit
46 no failure 1 RMS 4 3.6 2003 Jessica_Wabbit
47 no failure no RMS 52 3.4 2000 tracer.smart
48 no failure 1 RMS 52 3.6 2002 Spid
49 no failure no RMS 48 3.4 2001 Neilpeel59
50 no failure 2 RMS 80 3.6 2002 flow99
51 no failure no RMS 54 3.4 Fabster
52 no failure 1 RMS 27 3.4 2000 Ragtop
53 no failure no RMS 12 3.6 2002 Ragtop
54 no failure no RMS 49 3.4 2000 Diesel130
55 no failure no RMS 56 3.6 2002 nxi20
56 no failure no RMS 9 3.6 2003 C4S 3.6
57 1 failure 75 3 RMS 65 3.4 1999 rossfitz
58 1 failure 15 no RMS 18 3.6 headlesshorseman
59 no failure no RMS 65 3.4 1999 richardb.jones
60 no failure 1 RMS 35 3.4 1998 gfreeman
61 1 failure 63 no RMS 63 3.4 2001 g_j_d
62 no failure 1 RMS 44 3.4 2001 welshnobby
63 no failure 1 RMS 86 3.4 1999 kVA
64 no failure no RMS 40 3.4 2000 GMMK
65 no failure no RMS 3.6 2002 bigsi
66 no failure no RMS 3.4 2000 gmk666
67 no failure 2 RMS 72 96 3.4 1998 Stew The Bench
68 no failure 1 RMS 54 62 3.4 1998 mikeo996
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bcnrml said:

Three 996 engine failures to add to the list (see below).

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hussar10a – 996 C4S Tip,
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

“three years old, 25k miles”. “Intermediate shaft failure !!!!!”

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Rossfitz: 996 – 1999, 75K miles
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
“complete engine failure. In for RMS and discovered an intermediate shaft was worn and about to fail”

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xTVR – 2002, 36k mile 996 c2 in for 48k mile service
”Informed yesterday that RMS needs replacing. Then told today that intermediate shaft bearing slightly worn so engine needs rebuild”.

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bcnrml, all three cases above have written their entries earlier on themselves. This db is carrying a large number of people.


Kay

Edited by tonikaram on Tuesday 14th August 16:36

[tonikaram]

Bumcrack said:

Don’t which is more unbelievable, the 14% engine failure rate or RMS affecting half the cars sold.

Over half the cars sold being affected by RMS is surprising? Didn't think so at all, judging from the owners here I've talked to.

Kay

[tonikaram]

Still, there are 10 registered users here who had a blown 996 engine. How many 996's are there on here? Is it in the hundreds? thousands?

Kay

[tonikaram]

hartech said:

(1) unlike most cars and other Porsche engines - the hole that the seal fits in is not machined at the same time as the crankshaft bores nor in the same casting and some misalignment occurs

Now I know RMS is nowhere as serious a problem as an engine failure, but still, why should the cars have this problem for so long. Is it possible that it is, for Porsche, a by-product of performance cars, and that maybe they have a strenious bureaucractic procedure, workflows, many departments, teams and checklists envolved to perform the needed enhancement or fix, and they just couldn't bother, since they are focusing on other things (like painting Caymans black with stripes...)


Kay

[tonikaram]

RobbieJay said:

Oh shit !

I have just done a deal with Oracle Finance to get my hands on a 2000 - 2002 Porcshe 996 turbo, was this a mistake ? should i pull the plug ?

cheers

The 996 Turbo has a dry sump engine. The GT2 and GT3 as well. This problem for the large part, and in this form, doesn't apply.

Kay

[tonikaram]

ricardo60:
which model year, what is the current mileage and did the previous owner change rms/engine?

kfb911:
what is the current mileage?

The above will help make the data more complete. Your posts have been added though incomplete.

Current stats:

Out of 73 996's:
- 13.7% or 10 engine failures (six 3.4 and four 3.6)
- 52% or 38 cases have had RMS. When you have it, you get it on average 1.3 times.
- 41% or 30 cases have had none of these two problems (seventeen 3.4s, twelve 3.6, one unspecified).
In the survey, there are 30 3,6s, 39 3.4s, and four unspecified.

To summarize, the mean car in this dataset is a september 2000 996, that has 52% chance of an rms problem at 39.6K and 13.7% chance of an engine failure at 46.6K.


RMS distribution:
1998 5 RMS out of 7 cars in survey
1999 8 RMS out of 13 cars in survey
2000 3 RMS out of 9 cars in survey
2001 4 RMS out of 7 cars in survey
2002 7 RMS out of 12 cars in survey
2003 6 RMS out of 10 cars in survey
2004 0 RMS out of 4 cars in survey
11 entries in the stats didn't specify the year, 5 of which were affected by RMS.

engine failure distribution:
1998 2 failures out of 7 cars in survey
1999 3 failures out of 13 cars in survey
2000 0 failures out of 9 cars in survey
2001 1 failures out of 7 cars in survey
2002 2 failures out of 12 cars in survey
2003 0 failures out of 10 cars in survey
2004 1 failure out 4 cars in survey
11 entries didn't specify the year, 1 with a failure.



Complete dataset:
ID enginefailure failuremileage rms rmsmileage currentmileage enginesize year username
1 1 failure 3 RMS 36 3.6 2002 xTVR
2 1 failure no RMS 48 3.4 1998 siko
3 no failure 1 RMS 55 3.6 2001 Wetwipe
4 no failure no RMS Bumcrack
5 no failure 1 RMS Wanta996
6 no failure 1 RMS Wanta996
7 no failure 1 RMS Wanta996
8 no failure 1 RMS 18 30 3.6 2002 steve996
9 no failure 1 RMS 55 64 3.4 1998 jonny996
10 no failure 1 RMS 53 56 3.4 1999 Ballcock
11 no failure 1 RMS 26 3.4 2001 2something
12 1 failure 10 1 RMS 50 3.4 1999 fastfreddy
13 1 failure 25 No RMS 25 3.6 2004 hussar10a
14 no failure 3 RMS 25 3.6 2003 Dreammeister
15 no failure 1 RMS 3.6 Geneve
16 no failure no RMS 3.4 Geneve
17 no failure 2 RMS 3.6 2002 whoami
18 no failure no RMS 11 3.6 2004 C4SCAB
19 no failure 1 RMS 62 3.4 1999 HONEYMON57ER
20 no failure no RMS 7 3.4 2000 mbutchers
21 no failure no RMS 5 3.6 2003 mbutchers
22 no failure 1 RMS 18 3.6 2003 mbutchers
23 no failure 1 RMS 40 60 3.4 1999 nbetts
24 no failure no RMS 25 3.6 2003 nbetts
25 no failure 1 RMS 30 3.4 2000 R1_JON
26 no failure no RMS 3.4 Homer J
27 no failure 2 RMS 35 3.6 2003 deevee
28 1 failure 29 1 RMS 29 3.6 2002 joelasagna
29 no failure 1 RMS 48 3.6 2002 baptistsan
30 no failure no RMS 55 3.4 1999 The Griffalo
31 no failure no RMS 19 3.4 2000 Ir Baboon
32 no failure 1 RMS 30 68 3.4 2000 Vesuvius 996
33 no failure 1 RMS 42 3.4 DucatiGary
34 no failure no RMS 24 3.6 2004 andrew!
35 no failure no RMS 66 3.4 1998 EVO575
36 no failure no RMS 95 3.4 1999 Ogiii
37 no failure 3 RMS 45 3.6 2001 thepilsbury
38 no failure no RMS 32 3.6 2002 wadfa
39 no failure no RMS 67 3.4 1999 LeeME3
40 no failure no RMS 17 3.6 2004 widebody
41 1 failure 86 no RMS 3.4 1999 italiansummer
42 no failure 1 RMS 27 3.6 2003 alxce
43 1 failure 70 1 RMS 3.4 1998 TheMonster
44 no failure 1 RMS 15 3.6 2003 fulham911club
45 no failure 1 RMS 11 3.4 1999 Jessica_Wabbit
46 no failure 1 RMS 4 3.6 2003 Jessica_Wabbit
47 no failure no RMS 52 3.4 2000 tracer.smart
48 no failure 1 RMS 52 3.6 2002 Spid
49 no failure no RMS 48 3.4 2001 Neilpeel59
50 no failure 2 RMS 80 3.6 2002 flow99
51 no failure no RMS 54 3.4 Fabster
52 no failure 1 RMS 27 3.4 2000 Ragtop
53 no failure no RMS 12 3.6 2002 Ragtop
54 no failure no RMS 49 3.4 2000 Diesel130
55 no failure no RMS 56 3.6 2002 nxi20
56 no failure no RMS 9 3.6 2003 C4S 3.6
57 1 failure 75 3 RMS 65 3.4 1999 rossfitz
58 1 failure 15 no RMS 18 3.6 headlesshorseman
59 no failure no RMS 65 3.4 1999 richardb.jones
60 no failure 1 RMS 35 3.4 1998 gfreeman
61 1 failure 63 no RMS 63 3.4 2001 g_j_d
62 no failure 1 RMS 44 3.4 2001 welshnobby
63 no failure 1 RMS 86 3.4 1999 kVA
64 no failure no RMS 40 3.4 2000 GMMK
65 no failure no RMS 3.6 2002 bigsi
66 no failure no RMS 3.4 2000 gmk666
67 no failure 2 RMS 72 96 3.4 1998 Stew The Bench
68 no failure 1 RMS 54 62 3.4 1998 mikeo996
69 no failure 1 RMS 70 3.4 1999 Rappa
70 no failure no RMS 37 3.6 2003 911Guy
71 no failure no RMS 65 3.4 2001 Naz 111
72 no failure no RMS 3.4 ricardo60
73 no failure no RMS 3.6 2002 KFB 911



Kay

[tonikaram]

zaktoo said:

I give up - I have searched & searched through all manner of official Porsche 996 specs tables, and I can find no reference from Porsche themselves to a wet-sumped 996 engine. Which years had wet sumps?

Perhaps the title is too technical (but so should be Porsche owners!) but a "wet-sump engine" is what most Porsches have had since the introduction of the 996. The following 996's have it:

- 996 C2 C4 C2S C4S and all tip and cabrio variants, all years

The following 996's have a dry-sump engine instead:

- 996 GT2, GT3, GT3 RS, Turbo, Turbo X50 etc etc, all years. Meaning, all Turbo models + the GT3 and GT3 RS.


The same pattern follows for the 997's. A dry sump engine can sustain track use better due to having the oil container separate from the engine. Heavy G forces don't affect the oil lubrification. Dry sump engines can also allow a lower center of gravity by being installed lower due to not having the engine sit on top of the big oil container, rather side by side.
The dry sump is a configuration specific to a car with race genes. A wet sump engine is the configuration of a mainstream road car.


Kay

[tonikaram]

zaktoo said:

"integrated dry sump"

Integrated? hmm therefore this thread


Actually there are two main engines bases for the 911 since the 996. The first group I mentioned uses what can be considered the Boxster base, and all the rest use what can be considered the GT1 base. And it ain't the GT1 base that is a wet sump, so...

Kay

[tonikaram]

zaktoo said:

My apologies if I'm still missing something, but the Porsche docs for the Boxster engine also mention that it's a dry sump engine. Are Porsche mistaken in their own documentation? Is "intergrated dry sump" marketing-speak for a wet sump? Sorry if I'm just being dim here...

Interesting question, to which I have no answer. The engine does have some kind of integration whereby the gearbox shaft passes through and causes the need for a monster seal that leaks, but my answer won't be nearly as relevant as other experts on here (hartech among others) who hopefully might explain how this engine is actually marketed as not being a wet sump.

Kay

[tonikaram]

Thanks hartech for the clarifications!


Kay

[tonikaram]

riskmerchant said:

996 Wet dump - I had a 2002 C2 and a 1999 C2 both had problems.
Dealer said from non-use but I have no proglem with 2004 GT3

riskmerchant, can you specify whether the problems were RMS, and at which mileage? What is the final mileage you had, and whether any engine replacements were done?

butcherboy said:

My 1999 C4 996 with 48,000 miles needed a replacement engine after the main/big end bearings packed up...

butcherboy, was the RMS done anytime before, and at which mileage? Do you still have that car with a new engine? Any new problems?

Thanks,
Kay

[tonikaram]

Vesuvius 996 said:

Me again.

RMS has gone again.

2000 C2 Tip

Under warranty

Mileage?

Thanks,
Kay

[tonikaram]

prestige salvage said:

prestige salvage in leeds , we have counted the amount of cars we have had in for breaking from sept 2002 to sept 2007 these were 3.4 and 3.6 a total of 46 cars were recieved in this period, we have on the shelf 3 996 3.4 and 1 3.6 two 996 turbos and two gt3s engines ,( sorry only one turbo , sold one on tues) we sell engines quickly for these models
hope info helps

prestige salvage, what exactly is meant when you say "46 cars were received". Were these the 996 customers that you received in that period? Or are these the customers with an engine that had to be replaced (replacing engines is what is meant in this thread when we mention "engine failure&quot?

Thanks,
Kay

[tonikaram]

noumenon said:

Should we include boxsters in this? Pretty much the same engine/issues.

I've left Boxsters out. It could lead to confusion despite the fact that it is the same engine. The fact that the bore is different for example may (but not necessarily will) play a role.
This is about 996's.

Kay

[tonikaram]

Diesel130 said:

Anyone got time to summarise the latest stats ??

Yep!
will get back to you in the next couple of days.

Kay

[tonikaram]

Current stats:

Out of 86 996's:
- 13.95% or 12 engine failures (eight 3.4 and four 3.6)
- 51.2% or 44 cases have had RMS. When you have it, you get it on average 1.3 times.
- 41% or 35 cases have had none of these two problems (nineteen 3.4s, fifteen 3.6, one unspecified).
In the survey, there are 35 3,6s, 47 3.4s, and four unspecified.

To summarize, the mean car in this dataset is a september 2000 996, that has a 51.2% chance of an rms problem at 38,250 Miles and a 13.95% chance of an engine failure at 48,200 Miles.


RMS distribution:
1998 5 RMS out of 8 cars in survey
1999 8 RMS out of 15 cars in survey
2000 4 RMS out of 11 cars in survey
2001 6 RMS out of 9 cars in survey
2002 10 RMS out of 15 cars in survey
2003 6 RMS out of 12 cars in survey
2004 0 RMS out of 5 cars in survey

2001 and 2002 are the worst years for RMS cases (the more frequent availability of a warranty being the the reason?).
2000 is the best year.
11 entries in the stats didn't specify the year, 5 of which were affected by RMS.

engine failure distribution:
1998 2 failures out of 8 cars in survey
1999 5 failures out of 15 cars in survey
2000 0 failures out of 11 cars in survey
2001 1 failures out of 9 cars in survey
2002 2 failures out of 15 cars in survey
2003 0 failures out of 12 cars in survey
2004 1 failure out 5 cars in survey

1999 is the worst year, followed by 1998. 2003 and 2000 are the best years.
11 entries didn't specify the year, 1 with a failure.


Complete dataset:
ID enginefailure failuremileage rms rmsmileage currentmileage enginesize year username
1 1 failure 3 RMS 36 3.6 2002 xTVR
2 1 failure no RMS 48 3.4 1998 siko
3 no failure 1 RMS 55 3.6 2001 Wetwipe
4 no failure no RMS Bumcrack
5 no failure 1 RMS Wanta996
6 no failure 1 RMS Wanta996
7 no failure 1 RMS Wanta996
8 no failure 1 RMS 18 30 3.6 2002 steve996
9 no failure 1 RMS 55 64 3.4 1998 jonny996
10 no failure 1 RMS 53 56 3.4 1999 Ballcock
11 no failure 1 RMS 26 3.4 2001 2something
12 1 failure 10 1 RMS 50 3.4 1999 fastfreddy
13 1 failure 25 no RMS 25 3.6 2004 hussar10a
14 no failure 3 RMS 25 3.6 2003 Dreammeister
15 no failure 1 RMS 3.6 Geneve
16 no failure no RMS 3.4 Geneve
17 no failure 2 RMS 3.6 2002 whoami
18 no failure no RMS 11 3.6 2004 C4SCAB
19 no failure 1 RMS 62 3.4 1999 HONEYMON57ER
20 no failure no RMS 7 3.4 2000 mbutchers
21 no failure no RMS 5 3.6 2003 mbutchers
22 no failure 1 RMS 18 3.6 2003 mbutchers
23 no failure 1 RMS 40 60 3.4 1999 nbetts
24 no failure no RMS 25 3.6 2003 nbetts
25 no failure 1 RMS 30 3.4 2000 R1_JON
26 no failure no RMS 3.4 Homer J
27 no failure 2 RMS 35 3.6 2003 deevee
28 1 failure 29 1 RMS 29 3.6 2002 joelasagna
29 no failure 1 RMS 48 3.6 2002 baptistsan
30 no failure no RMS 55 3.4 1999 The Griffalo
31 no failure no RMS 19 3.4 2000 Ir Baboon
32 no failure 2 RMS 30 71 3.4 2000 Vesuvius 996
33 no failure 1 RMS 42 3.4 DucatiGary
34 no failure no RMS 24 3.6 2004 andrew!
35 no failure no RMS 66 3.4 1998 EVO575
36 no failure no RMS 95 3.4 1999 Ogiii
37 no failure 3 RMS 45 3.6 2001 thepilsbury
38 no failure no RMS 32 3.6 2002 wadfa
39 no failure no RMS 67 3.4 1999 LeeME3
40 no failure no RMS 17 3.6 2004 widebody
41 1 failure 86 no RMS 3.4 1999 italiansummer
42 no failure 1 RMS 27 3.6 2003 alxce
43 1 failure 70 1 RMS 3.4 1998 TheMonster
44 no failure 1 RMS 15 3.6 2003 fulham911club
45 no failure 1 RMS 11 3.4 1999 Jessica_Wabbit
46 no failure 1 RMS 4 3.6 2003 Jessica_Wabbit
47 no failure no RMS 52 3.4 2000 tracer.smart
48 no failure 1 RMS 52 3.6 2002 Spid
49 no failure no RMS 48 3.4 2001 Neilpeel59
50 no failure 2 RMS 80 3.6 2002 flow99
51 no failure no RMS 54 3.4 Fabster
52 no failure 1 RMS 27 3.4 2000 Ragtop
53 no failure no RMS 12 3.6 2002 Ragtop
54 no failure no RMS 49 3.4 2000 Diesel130
55 no failure no RMS 56 3.6 2002 nxi20
56 no failure no RMS 9 3.6 2003 C4S 3.6
57 1 failure 75 3 RMS 65 3.4 1999 rossfitz
58 1 failure 15 no RMS 18 3.6 headlesshorseman
59 no failure no RMS 65 3.4 1999 richardb.jones
60 no failure 1 RMS 35 3.4 1998 gfreeman
61 1 failure 63 no RMS 63 3.4 2001 g_j_d
62 no failure 1 RMS 44 3.4 2001 welshnobby
63 no failure 1 RMS 86 3.4 1999 kVA
64 no failure no RMS 40 3.4 2000 GMMK
65 no failure no RMS 3.6 2002 bigsi
66 no failure no RMS 3.4 2000 gmk666
67 no failure 2 RMS 72 96 3.4 1998 Stew The Bench
68 no failure 1 RMS 54 62 3.4 1998 mikeo996
69 no failure 1 RMS 70 3.4 1999 Rappa
70 no failure no RMS 37 3.6 2003 911Guy
71 no failure no RMS 65 3.4 2001 Naz 111
72 no failure no RMS 3.4 ricardo60
73 no failure no RMS 3.6 2002 KFB 911
74 no failure 2 RMS 5 3.6 2002 riskmerchant
75 no failure no RMS 20 3.6 2003 Wurls
76 no failure no RMS 16 3.6 2003 Wurls
77 no failure 1 RMS 30 3.4 2001 clorenzen
78 no failure 1 RMS 63 71 3.6 2002 Mousem40
79 1 failure 48 no RMS 3.4 1999 butcherboy
80 1 failure 61 no RMS 3.4 1999 johnstewart
81 no failure no RMS 45 3.4 1998 benno
82 no failure no RMS 18 3.4 2000 benno
83 no failure no RMS 10 3.6 2004 benno
84 no failure 1 RMS 33 50 3.4 2000 Mikeoupe
85 no failure 1 RMS 35 3.4 2001 Worzel
86 no failure 1 RMS 35 3.4 2002 green911


Kay

Edited by tonikaram on Thursday 6th December 17:16

[tonikaram]

Mikeoupe said:

tonikaram, you're doing a great job!

Thanks mate. The only thing needed would be to fill some of the blanks regarding the years of some of the cars, and some mileage blanks. The engine sizes as well.

I am positive that 98% of all this, if not 100 is authentic information. It puzzles me that the percentage is so high. Those with problems complain much more. Although I admit, these engines are something as well.

Kay

[tonikaram]

scamphor said:

Hi
Intresting to read your stuff. we have a 996 3 year old limited ed 40th anniversary 911. It has 9k on the clock and is one month out of warranty we bought it from porsche 13 months ago. Yesterday there was some fluid leaking from drive shaft took it stright to porsche - needs new engine!!

Almost surreal.. Not common though. Very early mileage..
(this post is an indication that when people suffer a problem like this, they're out researching forums and post their data).


Kay