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Akajak said:
Andrew911 said:
Keeping the revs below 4K for the first 2000 miles. I must admit the Spyder seems to get up to temp better than my 997. On arriving to work water is 90C & oil 100C. It's had a few longer journey's as well.
as a fellow Spyder owner i'm interested to know your thinking on the below 4k for 2000 miles, which is different to the handbook.Genuine question
http://yel.pca.org/porsche-engine-break-in/
The jist of the article is not to over rev the engine during running in period so as not to over heat the engine. It's now well known that in earlier 996 & 997 Gen 1's over heating or poor cooling can result in bore scoring which can result in engine failure; hence the recommendation to fit low temperature thermostats (LTT's) especially to 996's & maybe early Boxsters/Caymans. Worth reading hartech web site who seem to be an authority on Porsche engines.
Edited by Andrew911 on Friday 27th May 22:48
Andrew911 said:
Hi Akajak, its a confusing mind field. I quite liked this article though (despite some of the americanisms) which is my reason for choosing to run in my Spyder:
http://yel.pca.org/porsche-engine-break-in/
The jist of the article is not to over rev the engine during running in period so as not to over heat the engine. It's now well known that in earlier 996 & 997 Gen 1's over heating or poor cooling can result in bore scoring which can result in engine failure; hence the recommendation to fit low temperature thermostats (LTT's) especially to 996's & maybe early Boxsters/Caymans. Worth reading hartech web site who seem to be an authority on Porsche engines.
Thanks for that, very useful, but in effect opens a can of worms as contradicts with the owners manual.http://yel.pca.org/porsche-engine-break-in/
The jist of the article is not to over rev the engine during running in period so as not to over heat the engine. It's now well known that in earlier 996 & 997 Gen 1's over heating or poor cooling can result in bore scoring which can result in engine failure; hence the recommendation to fit low temperature thermostats (LTT's) especially to 996's & maybe early Boxsters/Caymans. Worth reading hartech web site who seem to be an authority on Porsche engines.
Edited by Andrew911 on Friday 27th May 22:48
I feel a bit more delving coming on.
Take it up the revs 100%
A engine which is never been run in will never be a nice free reving engine going forward.
It will always feel a lazy engine and will be only use to 4K bedding in :-(
I have had cars which go off the speedo scale , it's about building up the revs quite soon but without any extra load to avoid the extra heat.
A engine which is never been run in will never be a nice free reving engine going forward.
It will always feel a lazy engine and will be only use to 4K bedding in :-(
I have had cars which go off the speedo scale , it's about building up the revs quite soon but without any extra load to avoid the extra heat.
Quote Last year I had the pleasure of meeting Andreas Preuninger, head of GT car development at Porsche. This was at the 997 RS 4.0 litre preview in the UK.
A few of us asked about running in. He said the following:
- For the first couple of hundred miles drive the car gently; no high revs and don't let the engine labour. The main thing here is bedding in tyres and brakes.
- Up to around 500 miles, vary engine load and speed. Use perhaps 2/3rd of the rev range (when warm of course). No full throttle.
- Between 500 and 1,000 miles start to use more of the revs, and larger (occasional full) throttle openings. (I tend to up my rev limit 1,000 rpm per 100 miles.)
- Beyond 1,000 miles drive the car as you wish.
He confirmed that most GT engines develop their full potential around 10,000 miles - most 3.8 RS engines were over 460hp (10 up on OEM figures) at this mileage.
I've pretty much used AP's technique for years now - most notably on a 996 GT3 Gen 2 that has now done 60,000 miles, half on track. The engine uses no oil, and still develops 430 hp (it has a Manthey map and exhaust).
A few of us asked about running in. He said the following:
- For the first couple of hundred miles drive the car gently; no high revs and don't let the engine labour. The main thing here is bedding in tyres and brakes.
- Up to around 500 miles, vary engine load and speed. Use perhaps 2/3rd of the rev range (when warm of course). No full throttle.
- Between 500 and 1,000 miles start to use more of the revs, and larger (occasional full) throttle openings. (I tend to up my rev limit 1,000 rpm per 100 miles.)
- Beyond 1,000 miles drive the car as you wish.
He confirmed that most GT engines develop their full potential around 10,000 miles - most 3.8 RS engines were over 460hp (10 up on OEM figures) at this mileage.
I've pretty much used AP's technique for years now - most notably on a 996 GT3 Gen 2 that has now done 60,000 miles, half on track. The engine uses no oil, and still develops 430 hp (it has a Manthey map and exhaust).
Edited by Akajak on Sunday 29th May 11:39
DMC2 said:
Anybody know how much to purchase and install the PORSCHE side graphics on the Spyder?
They're £200 (with a little bit of discount), from Porsche. Mine were fitted free before delivery although I'd probably do them myself otherwise. I think they add a little interest. If you don't like them then they're simple to remove. Mine are staying
Andrew911 said:
Looks great. Wished i had thought of that.
Drove around without a front plate for a week which I was very conscious of. I'm much happier with a stick-on front plate and I don't thing it detracts too much from the clean front end. Wish I'd had the opportunity to do the same on the GTS.
Drat - back from a 2 week holiday to find my Spyder with a flat tyre.
Annoyingly it's in the garage and the tyre in question is against the wall.
Hopefully I can get to it - I haven't checked yet but the manual refers to both tyre sealant and a compressor.
I don't remember seeing the compressor and the manual doesn't say much about it.
I'm hoping I can get some air into it then hopefully get it repaired somewhere that will take care with the PCCBs.
Otherwise do Porsche Assist call out for flats?
Ironically had a nail in the rental car we had last week in the US, filled it with sealant and handed it back so maybe this is karma.
Ugh.
Annoyingly it's in the garage and the tyre in question is against the wall.
Hopefully I can get to it - I haven't checked yet but the manual refers to both tyre sealant and a compressor.
I don't remember seeing the compressor and the manual doesn't say much about it.
I'm hoping I can get some air into it then hopefully get it repaired somewhere that will take care with the PCCBs.
Otherwise do Porsche Assist call out for flats?
Ironically had a nail in the rental car we had last week in the US, filled it with sealant and handed it back so maybe this is karma.
Ugh.
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