Boxster Spyder

[ChesterDog]

bcr5784 said:

I got the impression it was just (?) a case of unclipping the flying buttresses - if it's more than that it does seem like a real PITA.

No, you have to release the roof at the front, then release the rear boot and unclip the butresses/fins.

You cannot unclip the fins while there is tension in the roof.

[Andrew911]

Barleyboy said:

I have found the agate with classic interior. Hope link works. http://www.theexchangeautogroup.com/web/vehicle_ph...
It looks gorgeous in the lights. Even sold now. Was my choice but a more reserved choice of black now with silver wheels. Can always paint them later.. Not heard of many order in this colour. Keep telling myself the car looks good in all colours. Still unsure on pccb . Any thoughts?

Thanks for the link - Agate does look very nice. Yep I also keep saying the Spyder looks good in all colours. Black also looks good; but have had a few black Porsche's & cars so fancy a change. Not sure though whether I would go classic interior with the Agate.

[Juno]

Beedub said:

Juno said:

the baller option!.... Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Porsche.

[bcr5784]

JeffC said:

push down button , unclip the fastners, lift boot, then just fold it back, close boot , pop down side flaps and thats it, I previously have had Caterhams and thats an ordeal if its tanking down and you get caught stood in traffic so in comparison this Spyder is an absolute doddle

True but a Spyder is a limo compared with a Caterham and rather different criteria (should?) apply. It's a bit like comparing a Caterham with a motorbike, only in reverse.

[m33ufo]

Absolutely nothing wrong with the Spyder roof. It's designed to save weight over the Boxster type electric hood.

There was a whole lot of fuss made about the 987 Spyder roof which was a faff but if you have an issue with the 981 Spyder hood then buy a standard Boxster....simples.

[PeterB14]

JeffC said:

oooh any pictures ? I haven't seen any other Spyders in the north east for that matter any Gt4"s kicking about either, was your car one of the 2 Spyders supplied by Newcastle? mine came from Darn Sarf.

I am just the other side of Bishop Auckland , but it has only been out once so far , that was over your way though

How close to Bishop?
I think Newcastle sold at least 3 cars as someone picked up a white car the day I collected mine

[bcr5784]

m33ufo said:

Absolutely nothing wrong with the Spyder roof. It's designed to save weight over the Boxster type electric hood.

There was a whole lot of fuss made about the 987 Spyder roof which was a faff but if you have an issue with the 981 Spyder hood then buy a standard Boxster....simples.

I think it's fairer to say the roof design is more about the look than the weight - and the inconveniences are the result of that. I've no doubt that as much weight could have been saved (it's only 11kg) by sticking with the existing Boxster roof design but taking out the electric motors and some insulation. Of course that wouldn't have fitted well with the humps. What would have been simples - and would have had very wide appeal - is if Porsche had fitted the 3.8 engine in the standard Boxster (and Cayman too).

[JeffC]

PeterB14 said:

How close to Bishop?
I think Newcastle sold at least 3 cars as someone picked up a white car the day I collected mine

Just a Mile outside of bish on way to crook , sales guy I was talking too told me 2 spyders had been sold , this was in January think he was keener to sell me a GTS as they had a spare slot left .

[breadvan]

Only 1 981 Spyder on Porsche Used Car Locator and I think it's a new addition (white, Bristol).

They cetainly seem to be moving.

[JeffC]

bcr5784 said:

JeffC said:

push down button , unclip the fastners, lift boot, then just fold it back, close boot , pop down side flaps and thats it, I previously have had Caterhams and thats an ordeal if its tanking down and you get caught stood in traffic so in comparison this Spyder is an absolute doddle

True but a Spyder is a limo compared with a Caterham and rather different criteria (should?) apply. It's a bit like comparing a Caterham with a motorbike, only in reverse.

TBH the Caterham was more like a limo in terms of comfort,soft suspension and big wall tyres, Spyder is rock hard and if you hit a bump feels like its going to shatter a wheel
feel as though I have been here before as years ago I went from a Caterham R600 to a new Elise Sc then after 500 miles (over 200 were collecting it) I sold it and switched back to a CSR260 as I hated the Lotus was horrible to drive, slow noisy, uncomfortable ! was only the other day I was saying to my pal that I thought the spyder felt more like an Elise than my other Boxster S ! Hopefully will keep the Spyder a bit longer

[m33ufo]

bcr5784 said:

I think it's fairer to say the roof design is more about the look than the weight - and the inconveniences are the result of that. I've no doubt that as much weight could have been saved (it's only 11kg) by sticking with the existing Boxster roof design but taking out the electric motors and some insulation. Of course that wouldn't have fitted well with the humps. What would have been simples - and would have had very wide appeal - is if Porsche had fitted the 3.8 engine in the standard Boxster (and Cayman too).

You pay your money and you make your choice. If what's important to you is hearing the whirring of an electrically powered roof then patently the Spyder isn't for you. Personally I could care less if it takes me 30 seconds to open and close a roof manually.

And you're right, it looks fantastic and it's lighter, win-win as far as I'm concerned.

[JeffC]

had a quick search and cant find the info but was there a thread on here about insurance and trackers? currently I have mine on my trader insurance but downside if the worst should happen I would only get trade price , I have looked at gap insurance that would cover from trade price to Invoice price up to a max of £25k at £260 for 24 months but my broker seems to think they will also request a tracker be fitted due to the value which I would need to price up and was thinking may be cheaper to take out a new policy but It must be 20 odd years since I insured a car privately other than specialist stuff like Caterhams and Mk2 Escort which were only a few hundred quid through Flux , so have no idea what to expect to pay on something like this and who would be best to try.

[wdpor]

JeffC said:

had a quick search and cant find the info but was there a thread on here about insurance and trackers? currently I have mine on my trader insurance but downside if the worst should happen I would only get trade price , I have looked at gap insurance that would cover from trade price to Invoice price up to a max of £25k at £260 for 24 months but my broker seems to think they will also request a tracker be fitted due to the value which I would need to price up and was thinking may be cheaper to take out a new policy but It must be 20 odd years since I insured a car privately other than specialist stuff like Caterhams and Mk2 Escort which were only a few hundred quid through Flux , so have no idea what to expect to pay on something like this and who would be best to try.

I found Porsche insurance through Marsh to be reasonable and no Tracker requirement. As far as gap insurance is concerned Porsche are charging just over £1000 for return to invoice cover for three years. Should you sell the car in that time you get some of it back.

[JeffC]

wdpor said:

JeffC said:

had a quick search and cant find the info but was there a thread on here about insurance and trackers? currently I have mine on my trader insurance but downside if the worst should happen I would only get trade price , I have looked at gap insurance that would cover from trade price to Invoice price up to a max of £25k at £260 for 24 months but my broker seems to think they will also request a tracker be fitted due to the value which I would need to price up and was thinking may be cheaper to take out a new policy but It must be 20 odd years since I insured a car privately other than specialist stuff like Caterhams and Mk2 Escort which were only a few hundred quid through Flux , so have no idea what to expect to pay on something like this and who would be best to try.

I found Porsche insurance through Marsh to be reasonable and no Tracker requirement. As far as gap insurance is concerned Porsche are charging just over £1000 for return to invoice cover for three years. Should you sell the car in that time you get some of it back.

hmmmm Sounds like Porsche have welded a sizeable chunk on for the gap?

quote today on gap was
2 year £260
3 year £315
4 year £345
5 year £395

obviously I would need to add the price of a tracker to that to keep it with L.V my trade insurance provider . will give Marsh a try see what they quote.

[RSVP911]

JeffC said:

hmmmm Sounds like Porsche have welded a sizeable chunk on for the gap?

quote today on gap was
2 year £260
3 year £315
4 year £345
5 year £395

obviously I would need to add the price of a tracker to that to keep it with L.V my trade insurance provider . will give Marsh a try see what they quote.

I'd be really interested to know - I'm with Porsche Insurence (Via Marsh) They only need trackers for cars > £K 75 . Would be interested to know what gap insurance would cost from them as Porsche (OPC) want about £680 for 3 years - such a rip off

[Porsche911R]

why take GAP on a car over list ?

GAP covers return to invoice, it's worthless !

[wdpor]

RSVP911 said:

I'd be really interested to know - I'm with Porsche Insurence (Via Marsh) They only need trackers for cars > £K 75 . Would be interested to know what gap insurance would cost from them as Porsche (OPC) want about £680 for 3 years - such a rip off

March don't offer gap insurance, you have to get it from the OPC. I have found marsh very competitive and good to deal with. Used them for the last 6 years.

[JeffC]

Porsche911R said:

why take GAP on a car over list ?

GAP covers return to invoice, it's worthless !

As my previous post ^^^^

because I am on a motor trade policy and current trade price on a 2 month old Spyder is £48,000 less excess so the Gap would would just top up the difference back to list, I asked about insuring for market value and he reckons in all his experience he has never known an insurer pay over list on a claim so back to Invoice is damage limitation should the worst happen .

I am going to try a private / specialist insurance today and see what quotes come back at as only way I can imagine to insure these to safe guard yourself is with an agreed valuation which I have had done on some of my previous oddball cars .

[RSVP911]

Porsche911R said:

why take GAP on a car over list ?

GAP covers return to invoice, it's worthless !

I agree this product stinks and I've never used it historically : you buy a car , it depreciates , you get back current market value (what you would have got if you sold it)) & as such , it's fair enough - no need for gap insurance - basically you are insuring your insurance - it's a product that plays on fear - I'm not a fan.

However , I'm not sure I understand how this works in the current crazy sector of the market where cars are worth more used , than thier list price ? So , hypothetically , if a car was written off in , say , during the first 3 months , could / would the insurer argue that the car must , as "all" cars do , have depreciated (most aggressively in the initial part of its life) and purposely ignore the actual market , suggesting that there is no such concept as "overs" in the insurance world . I am not saying that this is the case as I have no knowledge of it in the real world . It was this concept that made me think about gap insurance (very briefly , I must add) as at least with this you are part way there to securing a car in the overs market ?

Does anyone have any real world experience of what an insurer pays out (I realise this will vary by insurer/ policy) in a right off situation on a car that is currently worth more than its original price ? I guess a place to start may be what the industry pricing guide would quote for , say a 500 mile , 3 month old GT4 - would it be , for example £K10/£K15 less than list or actually £K15/25 over list ? I wonder if it's such a specific phenomenon that it doesn't exist , day to day , in the general, non specialist , insurance world ?

In truth I have no idea ???

Cheers

[bcr5784]

m33ufo said:

You pay your money and you make your choice. If what's important to you is hearing the whirring of an electrically powered roof then patently the Spyder isn't for you. Personally I could care less if it takes me 30 seconds to open and close a roof manually.

And you're right, it looks fantastic and it's lighter, win-win as far as I'm concerned.

I think you are missing the point I'm making. I'd be perfectly happy with a manual roof on a normal Boxster - the main impracticalities of the Spyder roof come about because of the humps - not because it's manual. If you are prepared to put up with that for the unique (and I agree) attractive appearance then obviously that's fine. I wouldn't, but that's just a personal preference and we all have different priorities.