Boxster Spyder

[Not Ideal]

JeffC said:

Has anyone been keeping an eye on the 981 Spyder classifieds and if any are selling ? its looking increasingly like I am going to have to sell mine which was never the original plan but sadly bricks and mortar may have to take priority

Sorry to hear that Jeff - whats your spec ?

[JeffC]

Not Ideal said:

JeffC said:

Has anyone been keeping an eye on the 981 Spyder classifieds and if any are selling ? its looking increasingly like I am going to have to sell mine which was never the original plan but sadly bricks and mortar may have to take priority

Sorry to hear that Jeff - whats your spec ?

yeh i'm trying everything I can to avoid it, I will know this week if the guy takes my revised offer on a farm I am looking at .

Its CWM satin black wheels, colour coded roof bars , classic red trim, full buckets /grey alcantara , Sound Package plus, Reverse camera , 65litre tank , aircon , smoking package (never smoked in) storage nets, Mobile phone prep , colour coded side vents , wind deflector , dimming mirror auto lights ect , has had PPF fitted to front bumper , full bonnet , wings , side skirts and into rear bumper so is totally unmarked and as it left the showroom, current mileage is 2,900.

photo taken last time it was out at the North east Porsche show at the castle.

[Not Ideal]

JeffC said:

yeh i'm trying everything I can to avoid it, I will know this week if the guy takes my revised offer on a farm I am looking at .

Its CWM satin black wheels, colour coded roof bars , classic red trim, full buckets /grey alcantara , Sound Package plus, Reverse camera , 65litre tank , aircon , smoking package (never smoked in) storage nets, Mobile phone prep , colour coded side vents , wind deflector , dimming mirror auto lights ect , has had PPF fitted to front bumper , full bonnet , wings , side skirts and into rear bumper so is totally unmarked and as it left the showroom, current mileage is 2,900.

photo taken last time it was out at the North east Porsche show at the castle.

Looks absolutely mint. I'm just not QUITE ready to pull the trigger yet (need to line a few things up) otherwise I'd be all over that in a heartbeat. Fingers crossed for you that you get to keep it. Keep us in touch please.

[BogglemanGTS]

JeffC said:

yeh i'm trying everything I can to avoid it, I will know this week if the guy takes my revised offer on a farm I am looking at .

Its CWM satin black wheels, colour coded roof bars , classic red trim, full buckets /grey alcantara , Sound Package plus, Reverse camera , 65litre tank , aircon , smoking package (never smoked in) storage nets, Mobile phone prep , colour coded side vents , wind deflector , dimming mirror auto lights ect , has had PPF fitted to front bumper , full bonnet , wings , side skirts and into rear bumper so is totally unmarked and as it left the showroom, current mileage is 2,900.

photo taken last time it was out at the North east Porsche show at the castle.

Really nice that Jeff, do you know what your asking price would be?

[Cheib]

GT3cs said:

Gulf Blue with houndstooth trim . Lovely but £122k !!

The owner of that car is on Rennlist. I remember seeing a thread about it. Stunning car but christ on a bike it's not that stunning!

[JayK12]

Anyone upgraded from a BGTS to a Spyder?

[BogglemanGTS]

JayK12 said:

Anyone upgraded from a BGTS to a Spyder?

Not yet, but I'm thinking about it.

[Akajak]

JayK12 said:

Anyone upgraded from a BGTS to a Spyder?

I had a BGTS before the Spyder although I only had it for 9 months and had just come out of a 430 Spider so I always felt a little underwhelmed. Looking back I really liked the GTS interior, the PDK was excellent and seemed to suit the car fine, it felt very refined (too refined, maybe a manual would have helped), Carmine Red IMO suited the car.
Coming from the GTS to the Spyder I feel more overwhelmed, I love the 3.8, the glorious noise, the roof is a cinch (literally 1 min max), the styling (I went for GT/Classic). To me it is a much more desirable and enjoyable car but different strokes for different folks.

[JeffC]

I came from a 3.4 S and the Spyder is a different kettle of fish in pretty much every respect, when I first got mine I still had the 3.4s for a few weeks til I sold it and every time I jumped back into the S it was like driving an Audi in comparison just felt and looked so dull, the Spyder in my opinion is just something else , its not perfect and there are things I dislike about it but its forgiven when I use it !

[ATM]

Akajak said:

JayK12 said:

Anyone upgraded from a BGTS to a Spyder?

I had a BGTS before the Spyder although I only had it for 9 months and had just come out of a 430 Spider so I always felt a little underwhelmed. Looking back I really liked the GTS interior, the PDK was excellent and seemed to suit the car fine, it felt very refined (too refined, maybe a manual would have helped), Carmine Red IMO suited the car.
Coming from the GTS to the Spyder I feel more overwhelmed, I love the 3.8, the glorious noise, the roof is a cinch (literally 1 min max), the styling (I went for GT/Classic). To me it is a much more desirable and enjoyable car but different strokes for different folks.

So is the roof a manual affair?

[Akajak]

yes Spyder is manual and GTS is simply press a button

[JayK12]

Akajak said:

JayK12 said:

Anyone upgraded from a BGTS to a Spyder?

I had a BGTS before the Spyder although I only had it for 9 months and had just come out of a 430 Spider so I always felt a little underwhelmed. Looking back I really liked the GTS interior, the PDK was excellent and seemed to suit the car fine, it felt very refined (too refined, maybe a manual would have helped), Carmine Red IMO suited the car.
Coming from the GTS to the Spyder I feel more overwhelmed, I love the 3.8, the glorious noise, the roof is a cinch (literally 1 min max), the styling (I went for GT/Classic). To me it is a much more desirable and enjoyable car but different strokes for different folks.

Thanks for that. I have a Manual GTS and X73 Suspension. I think it's great, had Ferrari 360 Spider previously and prefer the GTS overall. But the Spyders keeps looking at me.....think I need to go drive one.

What does the 3.8 rev too?

[KMF]

Cheib said:

The owner of that car is on Rennlist. I remember seeing a thread about it. Stunning car but christ on a bike it's not that stunning!

if you are going to go Gulf then make a proper job, orange side stripes, wheels and center stripe. then it would be stunning

[TB303]

JayK12 said:

Thanks for that. I have a Manual GTS and X73 Suspension. I think it's great, had Ferrari 360 Spider previously and prefer the GTS overall. But the Spyders keeps looking at me.....think I need to go drive one.

What does the 3.8 rev too?

I think the red line is around 7800. The last 800k or so of revs is where the engine starts to run out of puff, however, so during spirited driving, aiming to keep it on the boil between 4-7k is best.

The 981 Boxster chassis and suspension setup is far ahead of my Ferrari 360 spider, but there is still always something about revving out the 3.6 V8 to over 8k that never gets old....

Regarding upgrading a GTS to a Spyder, having covered 5,000 miles now in my Spyder (making it now worth just 20p), as much as I adore the car, I would think carefully about it (but having not driven a GTS, mind you). The exhaust sound with 5k miles is just glorious. But I think the GTS has the same exhaust setup? I'm constantly surprised how loud it is for a stock exhaust, and have had people drive up to me at the lights and ask (in a positive way) what exhaust it has!

The incremental upgrade is not going to be huge for the cost to swap, and you are going to lose the convenience of the electric roof (though as others have said, the roof is very easy and liveable on the Spyder).

For me I suppose it would also depend on the spec of the GTS I owned. If it were PDK and PASM, I would think that the upgrade would be more worthwhile.

For a GTS owner with sports suspension and a manual gearbox already, the main noteable upgrades would then be the 3.8, the shorter steering rack (which I personally love) and the looks.

Whether that is enough to justify the cost of change depends on your priorities and view of the finances I suppose?

The other option is to gamble that the rumours in the press are true, and that the next Spyder will
also be powered by an NA flat six?

If it were me I'm not sure I'd bother changing from a GTS with the spec you have, but you are welcome to come and check my car out for a comparison if you are based in London?

[Akajak]

TB303 said:

I think the red line is around 7800. The last 800k or so of revs is where the engine starts to run out of puff, however, so during spirited driving, aiming to keep it on the boil between 4-7k is best.

The 981 Boxster chassis and suspension setup is far ahead of my Ferrari 360 spider, but there is still always something about revving out the 3.6 V8 to over 8k that never gets old....

Regarding upgrading a GTS to a Spyder, having covered 5,000 miles now in my Spyder (making it now worth just 20p), as much as I adore the car, I would think carefully about it (but having not driven a GTS, mind you). The exhaust sound with 5k miles is just glorious. But I think the GTS has the same exhaust setup? I'm constantly surprised how loud it is for a stock exhaust, and have had people drive up to me at the lights and ask (in a positive way) what exhaust it has!

The incremental upgrade is not going to be huge for the cost to swap, and you are going to lose the convenience of the electric roof (though as others have said, the roof is very easy and liveable on the Spyder).

For me I suppose it would also depend on the spec of the GTS I owned. If it were PDK and PASM, I would think that the upgrade would be more worthwhile.

For a GTS owner with sports suspension and a manual gearbox already, the main noteable upgrades would then be the 3.8, the shorter steering rack (which I personally love) and the looks.

Whether that is enough to justify the cost of change depends on your priorities and view of the finances I suppose?

The other option is to gamble that the rumours in the press are true, and that the next Spyder will
also be powered by an NA flat six?

If it were me I'm not sure I'd bother changing from a GTS with the spec you have, but you are welcome to come and check my car out for a comparison if you are based in London?

IMO the Spyder makes the better sound than the GTS; it's louder as well if you want that

[TB303]

Akajak said:

IMO the Spyder makes the better sound than the GTS; it's louder as well if you want that

From the videos I've seen the GTS does sound quite sweet as well, though :-)

I wonder if the exhaust is fundamentally the same and the extra level (if there is any) / change in tone is simply coming from the larger capacity? I would imagine the headers would be slightly different coming off the 3.8 of course, but can't see them developing a completely new exhaust (when they can't even be bothered to make new meshes for the smaller rollover hoops, for example).

Having had a Carnewal GT-piped 987 which I loved the sound of, the 981 Spyder sound is even more incredible considering it is stock. Perhaps what is even more impressive on any 981 however (when you've come from a 987) is the intake noise. I couldn't believe how good this sounded mixed in with the exhaust reflecting off the rocky mountain faces of the French Alps.

I think on the 987 the intake is on the passenger side, where as the the 981 has two. I am sure someone else can clarify. Whatever is going on, it's great!

Edited by TB303 on Monday 5th September 21:32

[JayK12]

TB303 said:

I think the red line is around 7800. The last 800k or so of revs is where the engine starts to run out of puff, however, so during spirited driving, aiming to keep it on the boil between 4-7k is best.

The 981 Boxster chassis and suspension setup is far ahead of my Ferrari 360 spider, but there is still always something about revving out the 3.6 V8 to over 8k that never gets old....

Regarding upgrading a GTS to a Spyder, having covered 5,000 miles now in my Spyder (making it now worth just 20p), as much as I adore the car, I would think carefully about it (but having not driven a GTS, mind you). The exhaust sound with 5k miles is just glorious. But I think the GTS has the same exhaust setup? I'm constantly surprised how loud it is for a stock exhaust, and have had people drive up to me at the lights and ask (in a positive way) what exhaust it has!

The incremental upgrade is not going to be huge for the cost to swap, and you are going to lose the convenience of the electric roof (though as others have said, the roof is very easy and liveable on the Spyder).

For me I suppose it would also depend on the spec of the GTS I owned. If it were PDK and PASM, I would think that the upgrade would be more worthwhile.

For a GTS owner with sports suspension and a manual gearbox already, the main noteable upgrades would then be the 3.8, the shorter steering rack (which I personally love) and the looks.

Whether that is enough to justify the cost of change depends on your priorities and view of the finances I suppose?

The other option is to gamble that the rumours in the press are true, and that the next Spyder will
also be powered by an NA flat six?

If it were me I'm not sure I'd bother changing from a GTS with the spec you have, but you are welcome to come and check my car out for a comparison if you are based in London?

Great post thanks!! The GTS is the spec I want, don't think i could find another like mine if i tried, especially for the price I paid. Just hit 2500 miles, the Manual makes the car, and the sports suspension is awesome on the roads i drive. If i was to buy a Spyder now i think the depreciation would be the same as the GTS when miles are put on it, as Id be buying way above list.

Sound wise, I think the GTS sounds awesome, GT3 like. A friend said he thought it sounded better than a GT4, "it had more bark" he said. I heard a Spyder at Porsche when i was buying my GTS and it sounded brutal imo, sounded more like it had straight cut pipes!

That is also another option, 718 Spyder if they keep N/A, however I really dont like the looks of the 718 right now :S.

Thanks for the offer but I am in Shropshire so quite far away. I think i need to find a local one and see the real world difference.

[TB303]

JayK12 said:

Great post thanks!! The GTS is the spec I want, don't think i could find another like mine if i tried, especially for the price I paid. Just hit 2500 miles, the Manual makes the car, and the sports suspension is awesome on the roads i drive. If i was to buy a Spyder now i think the depreciation would be the same as the GTS when miles are put on it, as Id be buying way above list.

Sound wise, I think the GTS sounds awesome, GT3 like. A friend said he thought it sounded better than a GT4, "it had more bark" he said. I heard a Spyder at Porsche when i was buying my GTS and it sounded brutal imo, sounded more like it had straight cut pipes!

That is also another option, 718 Spyder if they keep N/A, however I really dont like the looks of the 718 right now :S.

Thanks for the offer but I am in Shropshire so quite far away. I think i need to find a local one and see the real world difference.

Sounds like you have a great spec GTS there with the manual box and sports suspension. Unless you would intend to keep the Spyder forever, I would stick with the GTS then. Engine aside (which is a big difference I suppose), there is less difference between the models than the 987 Spyder / 987S....

[kilarney]

JayK12 said:

TB303 said:

I think the red line is around 7800. The last 800k or so of revs is where the engine starts to run out of puff, however, so during spirited driving, aiming to keep it on the boil between 4-7k is best.

The 981 Boxster chassis and suspension setup is far ahead of my Ferrari 360 spider, but there is still always something about revving out the 3.6 V8 to over 8k that never gets old....

Regarding upgrading a GTS to a Spyder, having covered 5,000 miles now in my Spyder (making it now worth just 20p), as much as I adore the car, I would think carefully about it (but having not driven a GTS, mind you). The exhaust sound with 5k miles is just glorious. But I think the GTS has the same exhaust setup? I'm constantly surprised how loud it is for a stock exhaust, and have had people drive up to me at the lights and ask (in a positive way) what exhaust it has!

The incremental upgrade is not going to be huge for the cost to swap, and you are going to lose the convenience of the electric roof (though as others have said, the roof is very easy and liveable on the Spyder).



For me I suppose it would also depend on the spec of the GTS I owned. If it were PDK and PASM, I would think that the upgrade would be more worthwhile.

For a GTS owner with sports suspension and a manual gearbox already, the main noteable upgrades would then be the 3.8, the shorter steering rack (which I personally love) and the looks.

Whether that is enough to justify the cost of change depends on your priorities and view of the finances I suppose?

The other option is to gamble that the rumours in the press are true, and that the next Spyder will
also be powered by an NA flat six?

If it were me I'm not sure I'd bother changing from a GTS with the spec you have, but you are welcome to come and check my car out for a comparison if you are based in London?

Great post thanks!! The GTS is the spec I want, don't think i could find another like mine if i tried, especially for the price I paid. Just hit 2500 miles, the Manual makes the car, and the sports suspension is awesome on the roads i drive. If i was to buy a Spyder now i think the depreciation would be the same as the GTS when miles are put on it, as Id be buying way above list.

Sound wise, I think the GTS sounds awesome, GT3 like. A friend said he thought it sounded better than a GT4, "it had more bark" he said. I heard a Spyder at Porsche when i was buying my GTS and it sounded brutal imo, sounded more like it had straight cut pipes!

That is also another option, 718 Spyder if they keep N/A, however I really dont like the looks of the 718 right now :S.

Thanks for the offer but I am in Shropshire so quite far away. I think i need to find a local one and see the real world difference.

I have a Spyder which only just won over the GTS you own if its the one from Leeds. I went spyder just because its the pinnacle and I like limited run stuff but it was a very close call. If I already owned your GTS I wouldnt pay the overs to swap to my Spyder. Dont get me wrong the spyder is still the pinnacle but....

[Boxster7]

Any Spyderboys heading for the Goodwood Revival this weekend ???
I'm there Friday / Saturday.