Boxster Spyder

[Porsche911R]

Alpinestars said:

It's how satisfying the steering is to use.

No new cars are very satisfying we live in a life style world these days :-)

[Alpinestars]

Porsche911R said:

Alpinestars said:

It's how satisfying the steering is to use.

No new cars are very satisfying we live in a life style world these days :-)

I've certainly not driven anything new ish that has good steering/better than the last generation.

[Sandy59]

Alpinestars said:

Porsche911R said:

Alpinestars said:

It's how satisfying the steering is to use.

No new cars are very satisfying we live in a life style world these days :-)

I've certainly not driven anything new ish that has good steering/better than the last generation.

I hadn't really either until I drove my 991 GT3RS, but I must say I really like the steering in that and possibly even more than the previous incarnation.
It's on Dunlop tyres, not sure if the Michelins feel any different or not.

I also have a 981 Spyder and will concede I preferred the steering in the 987 version, but it's not bad and the rest of the car is superb IMO.

[Alpinestars]

Sandy59 said:

I hadn't really either until I drove my 991 GT3RS, but I must say I really like the steering in that and possibly even more than the previous incarnation.
It's on Dunlop tyres, not sure if the Michelins feel any different or not.

I also have a 981 Spyder and will concede I preferred the steering in the 987 version, but it's not bad and the rest of the car is superb IMO.

That's interesting. I've never driven a 991RS but I've had a 991 Gt3 and that wasn't a patch on any of the previous GT3s.

[Sandy59]

Alpinestars said:

Sandy59 said:

I hadn't really either until I drove my 991 GT3RS, but I must say I really like the steering in that and possibly even more than the previous incarnation.
It's on Dunlop tyres, not sure if the Michelins feel any different or not.

I also have a 981 Spyder and will concede I preferred the steering in the 987 version, but it's not bad and the rest of the car is superb IMO.

That's interesting. I've never driven a 991RS but I've had a 991 Gt3 and that wasn't a patch on any of the previous GT3s.

Yes I was pleasantly surprised as I'd also had a 991 GT3 before the RS and that didn't really impress much, I presumed they'd tweaked something or other plus I guess a different geo. Whatever they did works for me anyway, light & delicate with plenty of nice feedback.

[av185]

Sandy59 said:

I also have a 981 Spyder and will concede I preferred the steering in the 987 version, but it's not bad and the rest of the car is superb IMO.

I find the 981 Spyder steering to be not far behind the GT4. Most of the loss of feel could well be more down to the Pirellis v Dunlop Maxx and GT3 front suspension anyway.

991 GT3 steering slightly behind the GT4.

[Timbo_Mint]

coyft said:

Do you find the brakes to be over assisted? Perhaps it just takes a bit of getting used to?

Compared to what? In the 987 Spyder I remember having to really push hard on the brakes. It been mentioned before but this used to be a Porsche 'thing' that the breaks needed to some effort. Several forum threads have said how modern Porsche have for more assistance. So if you are coming from an older Porsche then yes I think you would find them over assisted, if you are coming from something else then who knows

Something that has been mentioned a few times in this (and other) threads, about the Spyder, is that it is 'over braked'.

[Alpinestars]

coyft said:

I haven't owned a modern Porsche since the '90s, I'm comparing it to other cars I own. Although almost every other car I have is at least 4 years old.

Anyway I went out for a blat today and enjoyed myself, despite the non existent steering and brake feel :-)

Talking of steering feel, is your NSX PAS or not? I had an early car, non PAS. Horrible steering. Required way too much input mid corner to keep it on line. Seems to me that there will be a sweet spot for steering, being hydraulic PAS.

[Alpinestars]

coyft said:

Mine is non PAS and does require some effort. But back in '91 I came from a 930 turbo, in comparison the NSX's steering was as light as a feather!

How bizarre, you got me looking at what they are going for now, and here's my old one.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

I don't think it was just the weight. It's the weight combined with the gearing, which requires the extra input mid bend. Anyway, destined to become classics.

[DAWSpyder]

Very rare spec 987 new to market

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

[Timbo_Mint]

Alpinestars said:

How bizarre, you got me looking at what they are going for now, and here's my old one.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

I don't think it was just the weight. It's the weight combined with the gearing, which requires the extra input mid bend. Anyway, destined to become classics.

Now you see here I was, as content in my car choices (Spyder and Abarth), than I have been for many years and then someone goes and posts a link to a reasonably priced (Subjective I know!) icon. Should not every petrolhead have experienced an NSX at some point in their lives?

[DS240]

DAWSpyder said:

Very rare spec 987 new to market

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Very nice and as you say a rare spec.... Maybe only 1 or 2 other rhd like that at a guess.

[Porsche911R]

Car collectors spec for sure or just if you want the lightest car Porsche have made for a long time with Steering no EPS system can yet match.
Take the roof off and 1/2 fill the tank you are looking at a 1250kg car and you can tell when driven.
weakest point on the 987.2 was the brakes, NOT with the PCCB setup with the massive 6 pots and 350mm disks all round, the braking is eye opening strong.
Some one needs to buy it.

I have the sister car , and as every one knows I LOVE IT #Spyderlove #lightweight #driverscar #rare #driverperfection ;-)

Edited by Porsche911R on Tuesday 18th April 09:29

[g7jhp]

Pretty, but still a Porker!

[jmcc500]

g7jhp said:

Pretty, but still a Porker!

Ha - that's my car! I was helping with the PH build and was allowed to park there as my partner is a blue badge holder. There were no 7s there when I parked.

[left4dead]

left4dead said:

JZM appear to be pushing the envelope somewhat:

http://www.jzmporsche.com/used-vehicle-details/Por...

Now marked as 'reserved'.

[Cheib]

According to their Twitter fed they've sold a few cars in the last couple of days...no troubke shifting good cars it seems.

[DAWSpyder]

Makes mine look cheap

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

[Beaver]

Spyder-less in 24 hours.

Life will go on I assume..

[GT3cs]

DAWSpyder said:

Makes mine look cheap

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Are you selling ? Just put in my winter drive Macan Turbo PP in against a 991 GTS ( July delivery ) . Keen to get into a manual , bucket Spyder to bridge the gap if anyone selling .