Boxster Spyder

[renmure]

I think the whole lightweight ethos of these cars, particularly the 987 Spyder, does put it in a fairly unusual position as far as spec goes.

Mine has aircon and radio. Personally I think it is a bit "committed to the cause" to go without these but I get why someone would go that way as long as they had all the other lightweight bits on a manual car. I have a fair bit of experience of convertibles and, even in NE Scotland, aircon is handy. On the other hand, I wouldn't have wanted satnav since it seemed a bit against the ethos, wasn't particularly good and would soon be even more outdated.

Takes all sorts tho and it isn't really talking up the market when you actually see cars priced fairly high selling fairly quickly.

Edited by renmure on Friday 12th May 22:55

[GT4P]

I am also one for aircon as its not just about the summer months! What I don't get is the love for the 3rd rate outdated PCM3 as needed for resale! Yet DAB which should be standard is not important even though analogue radio waves get switched off in a couple of years might as well have a cassette player!

[Porsche911R]

av185 said:

Aircon in any condensation prone softtop is essential for quick demisting and safe driving in the 'cooler' non summer months.

Lol did you really type such st !

[av185]

Do please enlighten and amuse us (and Porsche lol) by explaining how a non aircon Spyder could possibly demist more efficiently than an aircon Spyder.

With the hood up, of course.

[GT4P]

With the spyder aircon and PCM/ radio don't add much weight (15kg from memory) to the overall package but what does add weight are "chairs" and pdk (45kg for the both) IMHO the spyder is not a true lightweight to start off with so a few kgs makes no difference!
Spec is key in respect of manual , buckets and spyder wheels but everything else is personal although short shift and chrono add to the experience!
And just because a car has no aircon it does not add anything to the car that was just Porsche marketing bull at the time of launch! So a car without will be worth no more or less than a car with but something like PCM will be a non deal breaker further down the line!

Edited by GT4P on Friday 12th May 23:35

[GT4P]

av185 said:

I never use sat nav on any of my cars but not speccing it when new is financial lunacy should you need to sell...as the substantially reduced £ yellow 981 Spyder with no pcm recently

I think being yellow was the problem not the lack of satnav lol!

[breadvan]

If you want to be in the (circa) 3% who want a stripped out Spyder then that's great, but let's not pretend that makes the perfect spec to own or sell for the other 97%. The facts speak for themselves, please can we move on........

[Boxster7]

GT4P said:

av185 said:

I never use sat nav on any of my cars but not speccing it when new is financial lunacy should you need to sell...as the substantially reduced £ yellow 981 Spyder with no pcm recently

I think being yellow was the problem not the lack of satnav lol!

I spec'd my car without sat nav, because I thought it was a complete waste of money.
If that means no one will buy mine one day.... fair do's.... I'll just have to keep it, which is fine with me because it's ACE (I was brought up in the 80's ).

[GT4P]

Boxster7 said:

I spec'd my car without sat nav, because I thought it was a complete waste of money.
If that means no one will buy mine one day.... fair do's.... I'll just have to keep it, which is fine with me because it's ACE (I was brought up in the 80's ).

Good for you Boxster7 my gt4 is also worthless because I have no shatnav But did spec. Sound plus with DAB!

[Timbo_Mint]

Boxster7 said:

I spec'd my car without sat nav, because I thought it was a complete waste of money.
If that means no one will buy mine one day.... fair do's.... I'll just have to keep it, which is fine with me because it's ACE (I was brought up in the 80's ).

+1

I didn't Spec. SatNav because by all accounts the Porsche system, at the time, wasn't very good, so I carry a Garmin, when needed. I did spec. AC because I've been caught out a few times on hot but wet days. My car - My specification. I think spec'ing a car for resale is a little like not driving it to keep the miles down. For me buying my spyder was the second biggest purchase I've ever made why would I spend that much money and not get what I wanted?

I see where 911R is coming from, with the 'keep it light stuff or buy a GTS' but for me the Spyder is special for more than just been a little lighter (and as someone will point out the 981 isn't any lighter than the S or GTS). I like the look, it's comparative rarity and all those little changes that go to making it a different car to say the GTS

[Porsche911R]

av185 said:

Do please enlighten and amuse us (and Porsche lol) by explaining how a non aircon Spyder could possibly demist more efficiently than an aircon Spyder.

With the hood up, of course.

Have you ever been in one, ? I have had mine 5 years it's never misted up, I don't have the roof up, but when I do, i.e. Caught out I the rain, there is so much wind in the cabin it's still never misted up, It's a open concept design, are YOU still not getting it yet, a bit like the project. 7 Jag.

Why people harp on about demisting with AC is odd, clean your front window inside and it won't mist up !

We know you only buy cars for resale and not for you so you won't get it.
My R does not have PCM either.

[kevs 172]

Hi all,I was lucky enough to buy the recent 911 Virgin car, as I recently sold a 987 Spyder and regretted it instantly.
The car will be used throughout the summer months as they're too good not to.
911 Virgin as always have been brilliant and I can't recommend them highly enough,the car is truly as new.
Cheers
Kevin

Edited by kevs 172 on Saturday 13th May 11:20

[Porsche911R]

breadvan said:

If you want to be in the (circa) 3% who want a stripped out Spyder then that's great, but let's not pretend that makes the perfect spec to own or sell for the other 97%. The facts speak for themselves, please can we move on........

Look they only sold 100 manual cars in total , so it's less than 3 % of people.

As I have said you get it or you don't, looking at org orders it's not what Porsche buyers wanted it must be one of the worse ever sellers if not the worst.

I find the people who keep them and love them are ex Caterham or Lotus owners, who get the car, not the Porsche owner.

Most like the idea in theory and sell it, bit like GT3 wanabe's all have multiple owners and most are speced back to to full Boxster S spec, even deleted the free light wheels and buckets.

But yes let's move on, it a very limited market so it's like flogging a dead horse in here And even Porsche failed to sell any the 1st time round.

Edited by Porsche911R on Saturday 13th May 08:43

[GT3cs]

I did consider this car and although chrono would have been nice the main thing putting me off was lack of Porsche warranty . In my opinion it would fly off the shelf if the owner had inspection completed any issues rectified and 12months warranty added . This would give a buyer great piece of mind . ( particularly with ceramics ) .

OPC's get a bit of a hard time but they do come with good prep and warranty . The last OPC Spyder I looked at had £6k of prep before cost of warranty was added !

It's getting to a price it's worth taking a punt at but Ive went and bought a new manual / 2wd / bucketed GTS instead. ( and GT3 now coming much sooner than I anticipated ) . Although I'd still be tempted if it at least had 111point inspection done to see what was required for warranty ....

[AndrewD]

Looks like I am selling my 981 Spyder too. Too many other cars and have something going on this summer which means I won't get a lot of time to drive it. To my shame I only did 1400 miles anyway in the last year. Brilliant car, enjoy every moment of yours guys!

[GT4P]

kevs 172 said:

Hi all,I was lucky enough to buy the recent 911 Virgin car and I feel extremely lucky,as I recently sold a 987 Spyder and regretted it instantly.
The car will be used throughout the summer months as they're to good not too.
911 Virgin as always have been brilliant and I can't recommend them highly enough,the car is truly as new.
Cheers
Kevin

Hi kevs 172 If it is white YS61*** then I was the first owner for nearly 4 years ,it was always garaged and mainly dry use although it did see a torrential downpour driving back from Gatwick one night! The car was run in carefully to 2000 miles and properly warmed up and never driven on short journeys!
The fella who bought of me was a car nut (had a couple of Porsches and a ferrari 360 Speciale) I know it would have been looked after although it looks like he only did 500 miles in 2 years.
Enjoy I think you have the best 987 spyder out there and one of the very last to leave the production line

[kevs 172]

GT4P said:

Hi kevs 172 If it is white YS61*** then I was the first owner for nearly 4 years ,it was always garaged and mainly dry use although it did see a torrential downpour driving back from Gatwick one night! The car was run in carefully to 2000 miles and properly warmed up and never driven on short journeys!
The fella who bought of me was a car nut (had a couple of Porsches and a ferrari 360 Speciale) I know it would have been looked after although it looks like he only did 500 miles in 2 years.
Enjoy I think you have the best 987 spyder out there and one of the very last to leave the production line

Hi,
Thanks very much,yes it is your old car and I gather it came from quite a special car collection that the last owner had.
Are you enjoying the GT4?
Cheers
Kevin

[GT4P]

Hi Kevin yes the Gt4 is amazing and I really love it but I will always have a soft spot for the 987 spyder when I bought it was a keeper but I am coupe man so sadly it had to go!Before I got allocated a Gt4 I was first on the list for a 981 spyder but in the end I wanted a coupe more so another CaymanS/R or a 997gts was on my radar so I let it go to someone else fortunately I then got allocated a gt4. If I really wanted a soft top Porsche I would have kept the 987spyder as it really is the best soft top Porsche make/made!
Enjoy and happy safe motoring
Paul

[Phooey]

Slippydiff said:

I'm not familiar with the market (and I get it's ragtop) but is the lack of A/C not an issue ?

I can see some people are going to want / need air-con and fair enough. Mine didn't have air-con and I never once felt it should of had it. In fact I liked it more for knowing it didn't have it, so the car was as light as it could be (also had PCCB's) than the very rare occasion where I'd need to push the AC button. These cars are very rare now, especially with the right spec / colour / milage / history etc, so having air-con would be absolute bottom of the list of priorities if I was looking for a 987 Spyder today.

FWIW - fun cars and were good value at the time, but not good value today IMO

[W1TAK]

On the subject of A/C in a Spyder, I bought mine in December last year. It's an immaculate one owner 7k mile with the Spyder wheels, buckets and manual and doesn't have A/C. At no point was I remotely bothered about it not having A/C, in fact I thought to myself that would mean less to go wrong in the future. I know it puts some people off which I personally don't understand but I wouldn't have let a good car go for a lack of A/C.