Cayman R

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Zyp

14,696 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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bowtie

FrankCayman

2,121 posts

213 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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mrdemon said:
CR is one of the best cars I have owned for a road car.

the steering and 911 looks of the 981 is a non starter for me and the main factor to not owning one.

I also love the 987.2 looks and you can tell it's a Cayman, the 981 looks bland, it's lost the nice rear haunches and the front is pure 911.

the new car is also under powered and imo you may as well buy a basic 991, get the +2 and a real 350BHp, why own a Cayman over a basic 991 ?

Edited by mrdemon on Thursday 7th November 21:19
My new 981 Cayman was £30K less than a basic 991. Bit of a difference, wouldn't you agree?

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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Typical MrDemon.

(1) A fully-specced up 981 Cayman S comes close-ish in price to a basic 911. Of course it does - it is some ways a better car and in some ways still inferior, so it is about the same price.

Given that ALL Cayman owners like to stress that the Cayman is different from, rather than inferior to, the 911, it makes sense that people might choose an expensive Cayman over a cheap 911 (which means a similar price for each).

I would not feel at all uncomfortable spending the same on an extremely specced up Cayman S (or, please please please, a new Cayman R/RS/GT/whatever they call it) as I would spend on a very basic 911. Different cars.

(2) A 981 Cayman (even with decent spec) is still far cheaper than a basic 911. Of course it is - it has a far smaller (and cheaper, I would have thought) engine and is a much smaller car. It is also towards the Porsche "budget" end of the spectrum...all things being relative.


mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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The engines the same lol

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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Even I know there isn't a 2.7l Carrera.

FrankCayman

2,121 posts

213 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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mrdemon said:
The engines the same lol
??

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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FrankCayman said:
mrdemon said:
The engines the same lol
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3.4 engine

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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it's hard work here some times.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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mrdemon said:
it's hard work here some times.
I know, I know - they should always agree with you.

But, I am glad they don't.

HokumPokum

2,051 posts

205 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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who builds a good cage for the cayman? I have seen a few Cayman Rs with nicely executed cages but have not been able to enquire as to the installer.

FrankCayman

2,121 posts

213 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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mrdemon said:
it's hard work here some times.
You really are a funny old boy....

Trev450

6,322 posts

172 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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HokumPokum said:
who builds a good cage for the cayman? I have seen a few Cayman Rs with nicely executed cages but have not been able to enquire as to the installer.
Safety Devices are up there with the best so maybe a good place to start. http://www.safetydevices.com/

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Mermaid said:
I know, I know - they should always agree with you.

But, I am glad they don't.
It's not about agree with me is it lol.

The 981 3.4 is the same block as the 991 3.4., that 's a fact, disagreeing to troll me make you look la bit daft.

Edited by mrdemon on Sunday 10th November 10:16

FrankCayman

2,121 posts

213 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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mrdemon said:
It's not about agree with me is it lol.

The 981 3.4 is the same block as the 991 3.4., that 's a fact, disagreeing to troll me make you look la bit daft.

Edited by mrdemon on Sunday 10th November 10:16
The 2.7 isn't is it. You are the troll, dear fellow. Enjoy your car. it's lovely.....don't worry about the new model....forget it.....chillout!

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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FrankCayman said:
mrdemon said:
It's not about agree with me is it lol.

The 981 3.4 is the same block as the 991 3.4., that 's a fact, disagreeing to troll me make you look la bit daft.

Edited by mrdemon on Sunday 10th November 10:16
The 2.7 isn't is it. You are the troll, dear fellow. Enjoy your car. it's lovely.....don't worry about the new model....forget it.....chillout!
MrDemon, I agree with Frank - Chill. You are a knowledgeable chap, but not the only one. beer

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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HokumPokum said:
who builds a good cage for the cayman? I have seen a few Cayman Rs with nicely executed cages but have not been able to enquire as to the installer.
like this Heigo ?

Far Cough

2,228 posts

168 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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That cage looks very good but a quick google search reveals that the company can be an arse to deal with which is a shame. One of the few cages I've seen that dont require any sort of butchery of interior trim.

rob.kellock

2,213 posts

192 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Andy Fagan - whose car is pictured in post #1 has just installed one in his car. It just bolted in I think with no butchery needed.

Not sure what he used. He can easily be found on the Spyder thread on PCGB forum or PM me if needs be and I can put you in touch.

HokumPokum

2,051 posts

205 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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mrdemon said:
like this Heigo ?
This looks very nice indeed.

csmith319

372 posts

163 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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anonymous said:
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I think I read somewhere in the last couple of years that a 997 turbo cost about £6k more to produce than a boxster. Not sure if that's complete cost including R&d etc or just manufacturing, but the mark up on a 911 is pretty amazing. Kind of try across the industry though, big cars don't fundamentally cost proportionally more than small cars to make.