Cayman GTS

[cibble10]

edo said:

Fitted the zunsport grilles to my 981S and it was relatively straightforward. Bit of messing, but so far so good.

Glue, hammer, chisels, drill, screws, bolts, welding or magic?

Be good for us to have some idea what you needed, and what you need to do to the car which may/will not be reversable.

Thanks!

[rxpandy]

When getting insurance for the GTS has anyone been asked for a tracker to be installed? As i've had nearly all quotes ask for a tracker :S

[rudester]

rxpandy said:

When getting insurance for the GTS has anyone been asked for a tracker to be installed? As i've had nearly all quotes ask for a tracker :S

Isn't PVTS (Cobra) standard on all new Porsche's now?

[rudester]

rudester said:

Isn't PVTS (Cobra) standard on all new Porsche's now?

Porsche Vehicle Tracking System (PVTS) Status & Operation
The Porsche Vehicle Tracking System (PVTS) service triggers a silent theft alarm in response to predefined events (e.g. unauthorised movement of the vehicle). This alarm is sent to a 24-hour Security Operating Centre (SOC), which then contacts you, locates the vehicle and has it located and recovered in cooperation with local authorities.
You can also report a theft using the app or by making a phone call.

[rxpandy]

rudester said:

Isn't PVTS (Cobra) standard on all new Porsche's now?

I didn't see a option for the car when I was ordering it or is it as you say standard fit?

[cibble10]

rxpandy said:

I didn't see a option for the car when I was ordering it or is it as you say standard fit?

I looked for it too in the hope I could spec it and reduce my insurance, but it was not there, and neither was it feautured as standard.

[rudester]

rxpandy said:

I didn't see a option for the car when I was ordering it or is it as you say standard fit?

I thought was standard but the Porsche site seems to contradict that: http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/cayman/cayman/saf...

Worth checking with your dealer

[cibble10]

Oops! And there is nothing in or with the car to suggest it is fitted!

[rudester]

cibble10 said:

Oops! And there is nothing in or with the car to suggest it is fitted!

My 3 last Porsche all came with 2 fobs that you had to keep with you whilst driving the vehicle. All I had to do was contact Cobra for a subscription to the service.

[cibble10]

Ah. I have no fobs, just standard keys... I did ask the dealer and he seemed to think retro fitting was possible (but, personally, I would not bet my life on that information being at all correct...) I shall yank the manuals out later and see if they shed any light.

Thanks

[DMC2]

There is a price level where Porsche insist on a tracker, think it is about £80k. You don't need one for a GTS.

[curley]

DMC2 said:

There is a price level where Porsche insist on a tracker, think it is about £80k. You don't need one for a GTS.

Boxster and Cayman are only pre wired for the Cobra system , if you want it you pay extra for the install and then about £150 per year subscription . It's nothing to do with what Porsche require it's down to the insurer . My insurer ( Aviva) didn't require a tracker on my GTS so I didn't bother , my GT3 is different and I have to pay the subscription .

[DMC2]

curley said:

Boxster and Cayman are only pre wired for the Cobra system , if you want it you pay extra for the install and then about £150 per year subscription . It's nothing to do with what Porsche require it's down to the insurer . My insurer ( Aviva) didn't require a tracker on my GTS so I didn't bother , my GT3 is different and I have to pay the subscription .

That's not correct. You can't buy a new 911 from an OPC without the tracker being active, it's not because of the insurer it's Porsche policy. And it is based on the value of the vehicle.

[rxpandy]

DMC2 said:

There is a price level where Porsche insist on a tracker, think it is about £80k. You don't need one for a GTS.

Porsche Insurance and two others have said that cars valued at over 75K, are required to have a tracker fitted.

I've just spoken to my dealer who said they are able to fit one (Cobra) for me at cost but this is Porsche approved and doesn't effect the warrenty.

[Robograd]

Hi there

The tipping point for compulsory Cobra is £75K if taking Porsche Insurance, whom I found to be giving a fair quote on a pretty comprehensive package which includes cover for 2 track days per year.

My OPC quoted well north of £1K to install & activate Cobra!!

On another subject may I commend Zunsport, if anyone is thinking of fitting those rather sexy (sexy? - I must get out more!!) grilles to protect those vulnerable looking radiators on your beloved motors: plus the side grilles just look so goooo...d.
Lovely people to deal with from top to bottom & the product is first class to boot. A fair price, my thinks, as those pirhanas masquerading as your friendly OPC will "CHARGE like the Light Brigade" if you accidentally damage any of those precious little numbers tucked under the front bumper or if you neglect to religiously remove leaf debris from the scoops after every drive.

[cibble10]

Robograd said:

Hi there

The tipping point for compulsory Cobra is £75K if taking Porsche Insurance, whom I found to be giving a fair quote on a pretty comprehensive package which includes cover for 2 track days per year.

My OPC quoted well north of £1K to install & activate Cobra!!

On another subject may I commend Zunsport, if anyone is thinking of fitting those rather sexy (sexy? - I must get out more!!) grilles to protect those vulnerable looking radiators on your beloved motors: plus the side grilles just look so goooo...d.
Lovely people to deal with from top to bottom & the product is first class to boot. A fair price, my thinks, as those pirhanas masquerading as your friendly OPC will "CHARGE like the Light Brigade" if you accidentally damage any of those precious little numbers tucked under the front bumper or if you neglect to religiously remove leaf debris from the scoops after every drive.

Any holes need drilling, any bolting, glue, welding or similar or is it non-invasive surgery?

[TDT]

I asked about the tracker also when I collected my Cayman GTS as I did have one on my 997 GTS as a dealer fitment.
As others have said it based on the value of the car as to whether or not Porsche will provide it as a dealer fitment from new.

As for the grills - I've been following numerous post both on here and planet-9 about the development of these parts from Zunsport.
I do want some radiator protection as even on my 997 GTS, that came with the sports design bumper, there was some evidence of impact from stones etc and that had slightly better protection slats - PITA to clean leaves out of.

The 981 GTS is easier to deal with, from a cleaning out perspective - just a big gaping hole - but therein lies the problem.
I'm just having a hard time to convince myself that they look good.
But couple hundred pounds for grills vs maybe thousands for new rads? and just bite my lip on the aesthetics..hmm.

Edited by TDT on Wednesday 3rd December 16:27

[curley]

DMC2 said:

curley said:

Boxster and Cayman are only pre wired for the Cobra system , if you want it you pay extra for the install and then about £150 per year subscription . It's nothing to do with what Porsche require it's down to the insurer . My insurer ( Aviva) didn't require a tracker on my GTS so I didn't bother , my GT3 is different and I have to pay the subscription .

That's not correct. You can't buy a new 911 from an OPC without the tracker being active, it's not because of the insurer it's Porsche policy. And it is based on the value of the vehicle.

I agree that you cannot buy a 911 without a tracker fitted , as for whether it needs to be active that's debateable . If the cost of the option includes the first years subscription I can see where you are coming from , if it doesn't than I would suggest that to say you could not buy a new 911 without it being active is a mute point . Porsche cannot force a purchaser to enter into a third party contract before suppling the goods .

When I bought my 911 the insurers initially said I didn't need a tracker ( it was on a blanket group policy and the clerk just asked us to add it to the rolling list of vehicles ) so I didn't pay Cobra . When the underwriters saw what the car actually was there was a request to get the tracker activated . At no point did my OPC refuse to sell me the car .

Edited by curley on Wednesday 3rd December 17:07

[cibble10]

TDT said:

The 981 GTS is easier to deal with, from a cleaning out perspective - just a big gaping hole - but therein lies the problem.
I'm just having a hard time to convince myself that they look good.
But couple hundred pounds for grills vs maybe thousands for new rads? and just bite my lip on the aesthetics..hmm.

Edited by TDT on Wednesday 3rd December 16:27

It was as if you read my mind and were typing on my keyboard !!

Maybe a rad guard that just clips onto the front of the rads themselves? Discrete, functional, and much cheaper...!

[Robograd]

Hi Cibble10/TDT

Absolutely no drilling (well, I can't see any) - just clips, all of which are removable. Fitted free on site - coffee free. Zunsport even supplied spare clips in case a grille requires removal for any reason.
Non-invasive surgery: discrete -simples! All for <£350, incl. rear engine grilles - a must! What's not to like?

Other manufacture's products are also available: just in case you think I'm an employee of Zunsport, which I'm not. I'm just a happy bunny with the puppies private's of an upgrade that doesn't carry the baggage of extra wonga for OPCs exuding excessive profit from every pore.

Happy motoring.