Cayman GTS

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Prestonese

793 posts

105 months

Saturday 12th September 2015
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bcr5784 said:
Should have mentioned PCM has speed limit display based on GPS - so not likely to be as accurate as a real-time system but I find it pretty accurate most of the time.
I'd share Marios suggestion on PASM, seems to offer the best of both worlds - and gives you a little more ground clearance too.
I drove SS and PASM around a track and couldn't tell the difference. Even going over bumps etc. If it makes you go faster on track it's not as effective as say PDK v Manual or PTV v no PTV. I'm not sure which looks better either - though I do think the wheels always look slightly wonky with SS. It's almost like the design was an afterthought.

Not that any of this analysis helps us decide!

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Saturday 12th September 2015
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I can vote for the speed warning based on the camera system - I think a 200 option? We have it on both our porsches and it works flawlessly ready any perm or temp signs.

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Saturday 12th September 2015
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Prestonese said:
I drove SS and PASM around a track and couldn't tell the difference. Even going over bumps etc. If it makes you go faster on track it's not as effective as say PDK v Manual or PTV v no PTV. I'm not sure which looks better either - though I do think the wheels always look slightly wonky with SS. It's almost like the design was an afterthought.

Not that any of this analysis helps us decide!
You'll find that, because PASM is adaptive it is firmly damped when driving sportilly whether in Normal or Sport. Where the difference shows is when cruising or driving on really broken roads - under those conditions Normal is noticeably more comfortable than Sport. My wife doesn't actually like the car - but has actually volunteered that the ride is very good - noticeably better than her Suzuki Swift Sport (which is well regarded for ride amongst hot/warm hatches) .

Prestonese

793 posts

105 months

Sunday 13th September 2015
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981 said:
Hello any chance anyone can share finance rates? I'm getting 8.7% on a 3 year pcp but think I should be able to get something in the sixes through porsche/VW .
Or is it better to get external finance? Thank you
Low 6s is what you should expect max. Don't pay more.

MrLizard

261 posts

183 months

Sunday 13th September 2015
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Prestonese said:
Low 6s is what you should expect max. Don't pay more.
Having gone through this yesterday I agree wink

981

153 posts

193 months

Sunday 13th September 2015
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Thank you both I will try for a better rate.

Prestonese

793 posts

105 months

Sunday 13th September 2015
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981 said:
Thank you both I will try for a better rate.
Porsche finances their cars in the same way VW finances them. So all car loans under the group are pooled together. In theory you should get the same terms for financing a Porsche as you would for a VW. I posted previously that you can tweak the financing any way you like so don't take their first offer. For instance they always try to make the monthly payment smaller and the balloon larger. This effectively means you pay interest on a larger amount. A lot of people fall for this. PCP has become popular as it makes cars affordable for people but it also makes a lot more money for manufacturers.

That said, if you can afford the monthly payments and are willing to fork out interest then go for it. At the veryleast if you are taking out PCP, then ask for a discount on the car or as many freebies as you can from the dealer.

Masher964

183 posts

199 months

Wednesday 16th September 2015
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I've read many of the 162 pages with interest and love the enthusiasm for the Cayman GTS. Has anyone got a picture of the GTS interior with alcantara delete? I believe this creates a 'basic' black leather interior but it'd be interesting to see a picture if possible. I understand the comments that future buyers will 'expect' the GTS interior but I am wondering what alcantara actually looks like 5 years down the line i.e. I fear it will look worn and old.
Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?

NickUSA

806 posts

167 months

Wednesday 16th September 2015
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Masher964 said:
I've read many of the 162 pages with interest and love the enthusiasm for the Cayman GTS. Has anyone got a picture of the GTS interior with alcantara delete? I believe this creates a 'basic' black leather interior but it'd be interesting to see a picture if possible. I understand the comments that future buyers will 'expect' the GTS interior but I am wondering what alcantara actually looks like 5 years down the line i.e. I fear it will look worn and old.
Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?
I have alcantara in a 2008 car 50K miles and it still looks like new including the steering wheel.

981

153 posts

193 months

Wednesday 16th September 2015
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Prestonese said:
Porsche finances their cars in the same way VW finances them. So all car loans under the group are pooled together. In theory you should get the same terms for financing a Porsche as you would for a VW. I posted previously that you can tweak the financing any way you like so don't take their first offer. For instance they always try to make the monthly payment smaller and the balloon larger. This effectively means you pay interest on a larger amount. A lot of people fall for this. PCP has become popular as it makes cars affordable for people but it also makes a lot more money for manufacturers.

That said, if you can afford the monthly payments and are willing to fork out interest then go for it. At the veryleast if you are taking out PCP, then ask for a discount on the car or as many freebies as you can from the dealer.
Thank you Prestonese this is really helpful. They have kept the balloon amount the same as per my request (following your help) and the rate is down to 6.7 now. The car (a GT4) has now become a lot more affordable than it was. Should I try for anything else? Don't think they'll be up for a discount.

RBT0

1,476 posts

119 months

Wednesday 16th September 2015
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Almost 1 year of Alcantara on mine and absolutely I would specced it again.

It looks like new, whereas leather has a high risk to become glossy.

Alcantara all life long if this is the case.

cibble10

722 posts

119 months

Wednesday 16th September 2015
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Masher964 said:
I've read many of the 162 pages with interest and love the enthusiasm for the Cayman GTS. Has anyone got a picture of the GTS interior with alcantara delete? I believe this creates a 'basic' black leather interior but it'd be interesting to see a picture if possible. I understand the comments that future buyers will 'expect' the GTS interior but I am wondering what alcantara actually looks like 5 years down the line i.e. I fear it will look worn and old.
Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?
BGTS since last November but not high mileage. GTS pack not showing signs of stone chip issues though I do have an issue with black coating coming away next to an indicator which I need to raise with my OPC. If anything it is the windscreen which seems to collect little chips. Given I live in Guernsey with only 2000 miles driven at mostly slow speeds and just one real trip away I find this disappointing. I have not had this issue with any other car.

Prestonese

793 posts

105 months

Thursday 17th September 2015
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981 said:
Prestonese said:
Porsche finances their cars in the same way VW finances them. So all car loans under the group are pooled together. In theory you should get the same terms for financing a Porsche as you would for a VW. I posted previously that you can tweak the financing any way you like so don't take their first offer. For instance they always try to make the monthly payment smaller and the balloon larger. This effectively means you pay interest on a larger amount. A lot of people fall for this. PCP has become popular as it makes cars affordable for people but it also makes a lot more money for manufacturers.

That said, if you can afford the monthly payments and are willing to fork out interest then go for it. At the veryleast if you are taking out PCP, then ask for a discount on the car or as many freebies as you can from the dealer.
Thank you Prestonese this is really helpful. They have kept the balloon amount the same as per my request (following your help) and the rate is down to 6.7 now. The car (a GT4) has now become a lot more affordable than it was. Should I try for anything else? Don't think they'll be up for a discount.
Anything! Free key ring? Is it too late to still ask for a discount? Sounds like the deal has been done already? When I told a friend who has bought several Porsches in the past that I was going to ask for a discount he just laughed...

That aside. Free PEC day(s)? Would be good to bring a buddy along for free maybe?

Free car cover? Bespoke luggage? Anything which they basically provide through the dealer rather than Porsche.

DC20

80 posts

116 months

Thursday 17th September 2015
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Couldn't believe it on Tuesday just driving to the shops in my CGTS (Grey) did I not see another CGTS (white), never thought I would see 2 going about where I stay in central Scotland. After speaking to a few people sounds as though it's definitely in the same town as me. If the driver is on here give me a shout.

RBT0

1,476 posts

119 months

Thursday 17th September 2015
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Re stone chips, they are a real pain in the ass for this car. Got many. 2.9k miles, done just over moderate week end drives.

Fair to say, UK a and b roads are great for fun, but plenty of stones as well.

Excuse my french.

Edited by RBT0 on Thursday 17th September 18:51

dreamcar

1,067 posts

111 months

Thursday 17th September 2015
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Masher964 said:
I've read many of the 162 pages with interest and love the enthusiasm for the Cayman GTS. Has anyone got a picture of the GTS interior with alcantara delete? I believe this creates a 'basic' black leather interior but it'd be interesting to see a picture if possible. I understand the comments that future buyers will 'expect' the GTS interior but I am wondering what alcantara actually looks like 5 years down the line i.e. I fear it will look worn and old.
Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?
GTS interior with Alcantara delete is exactly the same as a 981Boxster S, with the sole exception of GTS script on the tachometer, you even lose the GTS logo stitching on the headrests.
You don't have to spend £2,000 to get the exclusive GTS interior, bits. The standard GTS interior gets all the GTS unique Alcantara and leather trim, (seat centres, door cards, lower part of the dashboard, steering wheel and gear lever / selector. You also get GTS stitching on the seat headrests but in black thread rather than silver or red and GTS script on the tachometer. With regards to wear of the Alcantara negligible on the Boxster after 4,500 miles and I have a Mk.3 Skoda Octavia which has Alcantara seat centres and in 2.5 years and nearly 50,000 miles it is as good as new. No signs of any wear whatsoever. My GTS also has the gloss black GTS exterior pack, no marks or chips at all so far.

981

153 posts

193 months

Thursday 17th September 2015
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Prestonese said:
Anything! Free key ring? Is it too late to still ask for a discount? Sounds like the deal has been done already? When I told a friend who has bought several Porsches in the past that I was going to ask for a discount he just laughed...

That aside. Free PEC day(s)? Would be good to bring a buddy along for free maybe?

Free car cover? Bespoke luggage? Anything which they basically provide through the dealer rather than Porsche.
Nice one I will try for a cover

robj4

390 posts

157 months

Thursday 17th September 2015
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981 said:
Prestonese said:
Anything! Free key ring? Is it too late to still ask for a discount? Sounds like the deal has been done already? When I told a friend who has bought several Porsches in the past that I was going to ask for a discount he just laughed...

That aside. Free PEC day(s)? Would be good to bring a buddy along for free maybe?

Free car cover? Bespoke luggage? Anything which they basically provide through the dealer rather than Porsche.
Nice one I will try for a cover
Wouldn't bother with the exterior cover, the carry bag with zips is part of the cover, so that sits on the windscreen under the cover when it's on the car, but it's not held securely enough so that you worry about it moving onto the bonnet and possible scratches. Then there are the mad straps that you pull down hard to locate inside the doors, with the chance to damage paint and seals. The bottom is supposed to be tightened with draw cords, but these cords pulled straight out almost immediately on mine. Anyway, even when they were there the cover is still quite loose at the bottom. All in all about as much use as a chocolate teapot. Save for a Specialised Covers one, which also has a softer lining. The one I had for my last car was so much better.

The Porsche interior cover is fine though, perhaps ask for one of those instead?

Have you asked for free Gap insurance? I managed to get that thrown in after obtaining a comparative finance quote from Oracle and after the car was ordered and on its way.


981

153 posts

193 months

Thursday 17th September 2015
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Thank you excellent stuff I will try for an interior cover.

cibble10

722 posts

119 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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RBT0 said:
Re stone chips, they are a real pain in the ass for this car. Got many. 2.9k miles, done just over moderate week end drives.

Fair to say, UK a and b roads are great for fun, but plenty of stones as well.

Excuse my french.

Edited by RBT0 on Thursday 17th September 18:51
Your French is entirely appropriate judge