Discussion
bcr5784 said:
Should have mentioned PCM has speed limit display based on GPS - so not likely to be as accurate as a real-time system but I find it pretty accurate most of the time.
I'd share Marios suggestion on PASM, seems to offer the best of both worlds - and gives you a little more ground clearance too.
I drove SS and PASM around a track and couldn't tell the difference. Even going over bumps etc. If it makes you go faster on track it's not as effective as say PDK v Manual or PTV v no PTV. I'm not sure which looks better either - though I do think the wheels always look slightly wonky with SS. It's almost like the design was an afterthought. I'd share Marios suggestion on PASM, seems to offer the best of both worlds - and gives you a little more ground clearance too.
Not that any of this analysis helps us decide!
Prestonese said:
I drove SS and PASM around a track and couldn't tell the difference. Even going over bumps etc. If it makes you go faster on track it's not as effective as say PDK v Manual or PTV v no PTV. I'm not sure which looks better either - though I do think the wheels always look slightly wonky with SS. It's almost like the design was an afterthought.
Not that any of this analysis helps us decide!
You'll find that, because PASM is adaptive it is firmly damped when driving sportilly whether in Normal or Sport. Where the difference shows is when cruising or driving on really broken roads - under those conditions Normal is noticeably more comfortable than Sport. My wife doesn't actually like the car - but has actually volunteered that the ride is very good - noticeably better than her Suzuki Swift Sport (which is well regarded for ride amongst hot/warm hatches) . Not that any of this analysis helps us decide!
981 said:
Thank you both I will try for a better rate.
Porsche finances their cars in the same way VW finances them. So all car loans under the group are pooled together. In theory you should get the same terms for financing a Porsche as you would for a VW. I posted previously that you can tweak the financing any way you like so don't take their first offer. For instance they always try to make the monthly payment smaller and the balloon larger. This effectively means you pay interest on a larger amount. A lot of people fall for this. PCP has become popular as it makes cars affordable for people but it also makes a lot more money for manufacturers. That said, if you can afford the monthly payments and are willing to fork out interest then go for it. At the veryleast if you are taking out PCP, then ask for a discount on the car or as many freebies as you can from the dealer.
I've read many of the 162 pages with interest and love the enthusiasm for the Cayman GTS. Has anyone got a picture of the GTS interior with alcantara delete? I believe this creates a 'basic' black leather interior but it'd be interesting to see a picture if possible. I understand the comments that future buyers will 'expect' the GTS interior but I am wondering what alcantara actually looks like 5 years down the line i.e. I fear it will look worn and old.
Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?
Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?
Masher964 said:
I've read many of the 162 pages with interest and love the enthusiasm for the Cayman GTS. Has anyone got a picture of the GTS interior with alcantara delete? I believe this creates a 'basic' black leather interior but it'd be interesting to see a picture if possible. I understand the comments that future buyers will 'expect' the GTS interior but I am wondering what alcantara actually looks like 5 years down the line i.e. I fear it will look worn and old.
Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?
I have alcantara in a 2008 car 50K miles and it still looks like new including the steering wheel.Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?
Prestonese said:
Porsche finances their cars in the same way VW finances them. So all car loans under the group are pooled together. In theory you should get the same terms for financing a Porsche as you would for a VW. I posted previously that you can tweak the financing any way you like so don't take their first offer. For instance they always try to make the monthly payment smaller and the balloon larger. This effectively means you pay interest on a larger amount. A lot of people fall for this. PCP has become popular as it makes cars affordable for people but it also makes a lot more money for manufacturers.
That said, if you can afford the monthly payments and are willing to fork out interest then go for it. At the veryleast if you are taking out PCP, then ask for a discount on the car or as many freebies as you can from the dealer.
Thank you Prestonese this is really helpful. They have kept the balloon amount the same as per my request (following your help) and the rate is down to 6.7 now. The car (a GT4) has now become a lot more affordable than it was. Should I try for anything else? Don't think they'll be up for a discount. That said, if you can afford the monthly payments and are willing to fork out interest then go for it. At the veryleast if you are taking out PCP, then ask for a discount on the car or as many freebies as you can from the dealer.
Masher964 said:
I've read many of the 162 pages with interest and love the enthusiasm for the Cayman GTS. Has anyone got a picture of the GTS interior with alcantara delete? I believe this creates a 'basic' black leather interior but it'd be interesting to see a picture if possible. I understand the comments that future buyers will 'expect' the GTS interior but I am wondering what alcantara actually looks like 5 years down the line i.e. I fear it will look worn and old.
Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?
BGTS since last November but not high mileage. GTS pack not showing signs of stone chip issues though I do have an issue with black coating coming away next to an indicator which I need to raise with my OPC. If anything it is the windscreen which seems to collect little chips. Given I live in Guernsey with only 2000 miles driven at mostly slow speeds and just one real trip away I find this disappointing. I have not had this issue with any other car.Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?
981 said:
Prestonese said:
Porsche finances their cars in the same way VW finances them. So all car loans under the group are pooled together. In theory you should get the same terms for financing a Porsche as you would for a VW. I posted previously that you can tweak the financing any way you like so don't take their first offer. For instance they always try to make the monthly payment smaller and the balloon larger. This effectively means you pay interest on a larger amount. A lot of people fall for this. PCP has become popular as it makes cars affordable for people but it also makes a lot more money for manufacturers.
That said, if you can afford the monthly payments and are willing to fork out interest then go for it. At the veryleast if you are taking out PCP, then ask for a discount on the car or as many freebies as you can from the dealer.
Thank you Prestonese this is really helpful. They have kept the balloon amount the same as per my request (following your help) and the rate is down to 6.7 now. The car (a GT4) has now become a lot more affordable than it was. Should I try for anything else? Don't think they'll be up for a discount. That said, if you can afford the monthly payments and are willing to fork out interest then go for it. At the veryleast if you are taking out PCP, then ask for a discount on the car or as many freebies as you can from the dealer.
That aside. Free PEC day(s)? Would be good to bring a buddy along for free maybe?
Free car cover? Bespoke luggage? Anything which they basically provide through the dealer rather than Porsche.
Couldn't believe it on Tuesday just driving to the shops in my CGTS (Grey) did I not see another CGTS (white), never thought I would see 2 going about where I stay in central Scotland. After speaking to a few people sounds as though it's definitely in the same town as me. If the driver is on here give me a shout.
Masher964 said:
I've read many of the 162 pages with interest and love the enthusiasm for the Cayman GTS. Has anyone got a picture of the GTS interior with alcantara delete? I believe this creates a 'basic' black leather interior but it'd be interesting to see a picture if possible. I understand the comments that future buyers will 'expect' the GTS interior but I am wondering what alcantara actually looks like 5 years down the line i.e. I fear it will look worn and old.
Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?
GTS interior with Alcantara delete is exactly the same as a 981Boxster S, with the sole exception of GTS script on the tachometer, you even lose the GTS logo stitching on the headrests.Also interested, now that some cars have a few miles under their belts, how the high gloss black GTS exterior is faring - stone chips an issue?
You don't have to spend £2,000 to get the exclusive GTS interior, bits. The standard GTS interior gets all the GTS unique Alcantara and leather trim, (seat centres, door cards, lower part of the dashboard, steering wheel and gear lever / selector. You also get GTS stitching on the seat headrests but in black thread rather than silver or red and GTS script on the tachometer. With regards to wear of the Alcantara negligible on the Boxster after 4,500 miles and I have a Mk.3 Skoda Octavia which has Alcantara seat centres and in 2.5 years and nearly 50,000 miles it is as good as new. No signs of any wear whatsoever. My GTS also has the gloss black GTS exterior pack, no marks or chips at all so far.
Prestonese said:
Anything! Free key ring? Is it too late to still ask for a discount? Sounds like the deal has been done already? When I told a friend who has bought several Porsches in the past that I was going to ask for a discount he just laughed...
That aside. Free PEC day(s)? Would be good to bring a buddy along for free maybe?
Free car cover? Bespoke luggage? Anything which they basically provide through the dealer rather than Porsche.
Nice one I will try for a cover That aside. Free PEC day(s)? Would be good to bring a buddy along for free maybe?
Free car cover? Bespoke luggage? Anything which they basically provide through the dealer rather than Porsche.
981 said:
Prestonese said:
Anything! Free key ring? Is it too late to still ask for a discount? Sounds like the deal has been done already? When I told a friend who has bought several Porsches in the past that I was going to ask for a discount he just laughed...
That aside. Free PEC day(s)? Would be good to bring a buddy along for free maybe?
Free car cover? Bespoke luggage? Anything which they basically provide through the dealer rather than Porsche.
Nice one I will try for a cover That aside. Free PEC day(s)? Would be good to bring a buddy along for free maybe?
Free car cover? Bespoke luggage? Anything which they basically provide through the dealer rather than Porsche.
The Porsche interior cover is fine though, perhaps ask for one of those instead?
Have you asked for free Gap insurance? I managed to get that thrown in after obtaining a comparative finance quote from Oracle and after the car was ordered and on its way.
RBT0 said:
Re stone chips, they are a real pain in the ass for this car. Got many. 2.9k miles, done just over moderate week end drives.
Fair to say, UK a and b roads are great for fun, but plenty of stones as well.
Excuse my french.
Your French is entirely appropriate Fair to say, UK a and b roads are great for fun, but plenty of stones as well.
Excuse my french.
Edited by RBT0 on Thursday 17th September 18:51
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