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Mine, used on week ends only (cold start every week?), careful run in, but peek of 7.5k RPM once more than 1800 miles, first minimum oil level reached warning at 2300 miles, then topped up with 0.5 litre, then warning again after 650 miles, which is sligthly better than 0.5 l / 500 miles I've calculated once I reached the minimum at 2300 miles (as I know with 0.5 litre you fill one bar on the electronic gauge, assuming it was ok / full 4 bars from new).
By the way, what would you reckon as to be done at the first service after one year, oil change for sure, then? How much at OPC? Is it negotiable?
By the way, what would you reckon as to be done at the first service after one year, oil change for sure, then? How much at OPC? Is it negotiable?
Edited by RBT0 on Wednesday 25th November 19:07
RBT0 said:
Mine, used on week ends only (cold start every week?), careful run in, but peek of 7.5k RPM once more than 1800 miles, first minimum oil level reached warning at 2300 miles, then topped up with 0.5 litre, then warning again after 650 miles, which is sligthly better than 0.5 l / 500 miles I've calculated once I reached the minimum at 2300 miles (as I know with 0.5 litre you fill one bar on the electronic gauge, assuming it was ok / full 4 bars from new).
By the way, what would you reckon as to be done at the first service after one year, oil change for sure, then? How much at OPC? Is it negotiable?
First service is after 2 years, not one year. I asked about them doing an oil change after one year for me and was quoted £350 or so By the way, what would you reckon as to be done at the first service after one year, oil change for sure, then? How much at OPC? Is it negotiable?
Edited by RBT0 on Wednesday 25th November 19:07
Mario149 said:
First service is after 2 years, not one year. I asked about them doing an oil change after one year for me and was quoted £350 or so
I've done two oil changes so far and it's cost me half of that! Get the oil from Opie Oils and filter/crush washer/o-ring from porsche east london and get my local, but very good independent garage to do the work. They love it and charge me peanuts and I can sleep properly at night knowing I have fresh oil every few k miles and a good nosey under my car for an hour or so each time. Two years to me seems like a silly interval based more on the commoditised model of euroboxes, aimed at apparently minimising running costs rather than a performance car being used the way it should be and serviced accordingly.EDIT: I should add, I've also got an OPC to price match oil I found online without so much as a slight hesitation when I couldn't be bothered to wait for it to be delivered from Opie. Ask and ye shall get. Not looking forward to being held over a barrel for the first OPC service though...
Edited by fossilfuelled on Thursday 26th November 10:15
fossilfuelled said:
Depends how you've used it, I've replaced pads and brake fluid too.
The service book says every 2years/20k miles. I don't have a problem with 2 years in principle, but 20k miles seems a long time between oil changes unless the car generally only does long runs and a lot of motorway stuff.FWIW, every single person I've spoken to at Porsche:
- the salesman who sold me the car
- the bloke who handed the car over to me at Zuffenhausen
- the ex-Porsche mechanic doing our factory tour who'd worked at Porsche in various capacities for 40 years, including with race cars
...all told me that the 20k mile / 2 yr interval for oil changes was fine given the modern tech involved. Specifically the ex-mechanic / tour guide said it was fine, but when I pushed him, he said that for normal use he'd change the oil more often, but only to make himself feel better as he's been doing it so long, not because he thought the car needed it. He'd only do it for the latter reason if he was tracking the car.
It seems to me that provided you use the correct oil etc, for regular use the car really doesn't need it any more often. Since I track mine, I'll do at least one change a year I think, but otherwise, the only reason I think I'd do it would be if I could get a tasty loan car from the OPC to try out for a day or 2 while mine was in with them - an expensive test drive / cheap car rental if you will!
- the salesman who sold me the car
- the bloke who handed the car over to me at Zuffenhausen
- the ex-Porsche mechanic doing our factory tour who'd worked at Porsche in various capacities for 40 years, including with race cars
...all told me that the 20k mile / 2 yr interval for oil changes was fine given the modern tech involved. Specifically the ex-mechanic / tour guide said it was fine, but when I pushed him, he said that for normal use he'd change the oil more often, but only to make himself feel better as he's been doing it so long, not because he thought the car needed it. He'd only do it for the latter reason if he was tracking the car.
It seems to me that provided you use the correct oil etc, for regular use the car really doesn't need it any more often. Since I track mine, I'll do at least one change a year I think, but otherwise, the only reason I think I'd do it would be if I could get a tasty loan car from the OPC to try out for a day or 2 while mine was in with them - an expensive test drive / cheap car rental if you will!
Mario149 said:
He'd only do it for the latter reason if he was tracking the car.
It seems to me that provided you use the correct oil etc, for regular use the car really doesn't need it any more often. Since I track mine, I'll do at least one change a year I think, but otherwise, the only reason I think I'd do it would be if I could get a tasty loan car from the OPC to try out for a day or 2 while mine was in with them - an expensive test drive / cheap car rental if you will!
Agreed. A lot of people barely use their Porsches (My father in law has put the same number of miles on his in 10 years, as I've done in one) I track the hell out of the car, and drive it across Germany at the red line... so change the oil more regularly so I can keep doing so without problems. If it was just sat in my garage, I probably wouldn't bother!It seems to me that provided you use the correct oil etc, for regular use the car really doesn't need it any more often. Since I track mine, I'll do at least one change a year I think, but otherwise, the only reason I think I'd do it would be if I could get a tasty loan car from the OPC to try out for a day or 2 while mine was in with them - an expensive test drive / cheap car rental if you will!
Well I am late to the party here in Australia, I put the deposit down for my car today. Expected to be a March build and will be one of the last imported.
Exterior Colour
G1 - Guards Red
Interior Colour
GQ - Black leather interior incl. Alcantara Package GTS Carmine Red
Exterior
632 - Bi-Xenon-Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS+) with dynamic high beam
625 - Porsche Entry & Drive
Transmission / Chassis
480 - 6-speed manual gearbox
X73 - Sports chassis, 20 mm lower Exclusive
220 - Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) incl. mechanically locking rear differential
Wheels
XRT - 20-inch SportTechno wheels Exclusive
Wheel Accessories
XDA - Wheels painted in black (partially) Exclusive
Interior
088 - GTS Communication package
P13 - Automatically dimming interior and exterior mirrors with integrated rain sensor
608 - HomeLink® (programmable garage door opener)
P07 - Adaptive sports seats Plus, electrical (18-way) with memory package
583 - Smoking package
Interior Leather
XNS - Steering column casing in leather Exclusive
Audio / Comm.
680 - BOSE® Surround Sound System
The same look as this but in Guards: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Exterior Colour
G1 - Guards Red
Interior Colour
GQ - Black leather interior incl. Alcantara Package GTS Carmine Red
Exterior
632 - Bi-Xenon-Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS+) with dynamic high beam
625 - Porsche Entry & Drive
Transmission / Chassis
480 - 6-speed manual gearbox
X73 - Sports chassis, 20 mm lower Exclusive
220 - Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) incl. mechanically locking rear differential
Wheels
XRT - 20-inch SportTechno wheels Exclusive
Wheel Accessories
XDA - Wheels painted in black (partially) Exclusive
Interior
088 - GTS Communication package
P13 - Automatically dimming interior and exterior mirrors with integrated rain sensor
608 - HomeLink® (programmable garage door opener)
P07 - Adaptive sports seats Plus, electrical (18-way) with memory package
583 - Smoking package
Interior Leather
XNS - Steering column casing in leather Exclusive
Audio / Comm.
680 - BOSE® Surround Sound System
The same look as this but in Guards: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Hi Trotmant
Still got the motor I see: same here. The GTS must be about the best car this side of really funny money. It's certainly the most drivable motor I've owned. Those who own one will look back in years to come with fond memories, me thinks.
The problem of the ingest of water into lighting units is almost as old as Porsche itself. From the earliest models most 911s suffered similar problems from time to time, whilst 924/944s were notorious for letting water into their rear light pods, sometimes over an inch of liquid could be seen sloshing around in them. Nothing changes.
Still got the motor I see: same here. The GTS must be about the best car this side of really funny money. It's certainly the most drivable motor I've owned. Those who own one will look back in years to come with fond memories, me thinks.
The problem of the ingest of water into lighting units is almost as old as Porsche itself. From the earliest models most 911s suffered similar problems from time to time, whilst 924/944s were notorious for letting water into their rear light pods, sometimes over an inch of liquid could be seen sloshing around in them. Nothing changes.
Robograd said:
Hi Trotmant
Still got the motor I see: same here.
Too right I still have it. Never understood people who make a purchase decision on a car to flip/hand back/change or whatever in less than a few years. Still got the motor I see: same here.
I love my GTS and don't care about some of its flaws. In fact in little over an hour I get to drive it home from the office through the surrey country lanes. Everytime it puts a smile on my face.
And one thing is for certain I won't be trading it in for a new turbo one next year! More likely I would move to a low miles 991.1 before that happens in years to come.
I really would appreciate some thoughts from you gents, but you all seem too busy in your business.
I don't have any f***ng experience with any OPC in terms of services and I don't want to pay what they ask without a minimum of awareness.
£300 doesn't seem too unreasonable to me anyway....but I remember somewhere somebody told me £260?
I don't have any f***ng experience with any OPC in terms of services and I don't want to pay what they ask without a minimum of awareness.
£300 doesn't seem too unreasonable to me anyway....but I remember somewhere somebody told me £260?
Ozzie Osmond said:
Incremental service costs at OPC are in my opinion negligible compared with the overall cost of running a fantastic modern sportscar!
True, but it grieves me to be charged the normal OPC price of £600+ for what can only amounts to an hours work and £40 worth of oil. Trying an interesting courtesy car has considerable appeal - but not at that price. £300? perhaps with a GT4 for the day.RBT0 said:
I really would appreciate some thoughts from you gents, but you all seem too busy in your business.
I don't have any f***ng experience with any OPC in terms of services and I don't want to pay what they ask without a minimum of awareness.
£300 doesn't seem too unreasonable to me anyway....but I remember somewhere somebody told me £260?
I paid £338 @ reading I don't have any f***ng experience with any OPC in terms of services and I don't want to pay what they ask without a minimum of awareness.
£300 doesn't seem too unreasonable to me anyway....but I remember somewhere somebody told me £260?
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