Cayman GTS

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Robograd

152 posts

123 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Me again

Cayman GT4. UK registrations. 2015 Q1-3 (no Q4 again). 38

Usual disclaimer applies to accuracy of Internet sourced info.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Interesting, thanks! So that's 280ish GTSs plus Q4 2015 and Q1 2016.

There'll be a good number of GT4s in Q4 2015 and Q1 2016, and I think I read in another thread that given the average number of allocations per OPC there'd be around 250 for the UK.

Broadly similar numbers of each then in the UK, 250ish versus (maybe) 350ish.....

Mario149

7,758 posts

179 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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I make it:
372 Cayman GTSs not SORN at the end of 2015
273 Boxster GTSs " " " " " " "

ETA: and about a quarter of both are manuals

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Superb info thanks, where did you get that from?

Similar numbers then, and manual GTSs are going to be hard to find if only 100 or so are going to exist!

Robograd

152 posts

123 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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I was rather surprised how few GTSs there are out there, much less than some supposedly more exotic models in the range. Factor in maybe only 10% are manuals & there you have it: one collectable machine for the future.

94OD

1,075 posts

123 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Very interesting, thank you all. One to watch, for certain.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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I think manual GTSs may do well with residuals as a more reasonably priced GT4 alternative - 90% of the car for 50% of the cost?

That's what I'm hoping anyway, given that I have a manual CGTS on order biglaugh

Robograd

152 posts

123 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Was writing while other replies came through. Is the 25% manual figure definitive? Seems high cf PDK looking at those up for sale 2nd hand recently.

I should learn to type quicker!

Robograd

152 posts

123 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Hi Twinfan
I too have a manual GTS, if you add X73 suspension option & you could be sitting on liquid gold.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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I debated long and hard about X73 sports suspension, but I've gone with PASM for several reasons:

  • mine will be a 100% road car
  • my local roads are very varied in condition/quality with plenty of speed bumps
  • I'm not keen on the 'slammed' look unless it's a GT car with the associated spoilers and splitters
  • I like the PASM technology, it seems like a step up from a completely passive setup (and the GT4 has it!)
  • there was nothing wrong with the handling of the PASM car I drove at PEC last year
If I was after a more track focussed car, I think an S model with X73/buckets/PCCBs and maybe PDK would be the way to go and better value for money. As a well specced all-rounder, I'm happy with PASM/sports seats plus/steel brakes and manual transmission yes

Edited by Twinfan on Monday 1st February 16:57

PhilLL

1,123 posts

201 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Robograd said:
Hi Twinfan
I too have a manual GTS, if you add X73 suspension option & you could be sitting on liquid gold.
I look forward to them hitting £30k over list soon biggrin

PhilLL

1,123 posts

201 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Twinfan said:
Nice spec, very different approach to mine - but that's what all the choices are about isn't it?

You've got a very late spec freeze considering your build date is only a couple of weeks after mine. Good luck getting to the PEC this month!
Thanks - what was your spec like?

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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I've (hopefully!) gone for slightly grown up/classic looks and a fast-road spec, rather than something more track-biased or in the Fast and Furious style.

My code is PGB3IP55.

PhilLL

1,123 posts

201 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Mario149 said:
Lovely, but a couple of suggestions:

1) I'd ditch the PDLS+. I've got it and unless you're going to be driving lots at night, I wouldn't bother. And even if you were it's marginal, I've only used my twice in 6 months hehe

2) Think you could save on the steering column leather as well, I don't have it but I couldn't tell you what the column looks like on mine now and I drove my car yesterday, so it can't look that bad silly
I've specced PDLS+ at the moment as I have adaptive lights on my X5 and they work well. Does anyone know if PDLS+ just alternates between high/dip beam or does it work actively like BMW's system, effectively 'letterboxing' other traffic as it passes?

I'm also in 2 minds about the leather steering column - on the one hand I think it finishes the interior off nicely and I would definitely spec it with a colourful leather interior but with the standard GTS black interior without deviating stitching it might not be as obvious. Ditto Alcantara sun visors!

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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PDLS+ only adds auto-dipping/adjustment of full beam, and I think you have to activate it every time you start the car. I decided it wasn't worth it

Mario149

7,758 posts

179 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Twinfan said:
Superb info thanks, where did you get that from?

Similar numbers then, and manual GTSs are going to be hard to find if only 100 or so are going to exist!
From the howmanyleft site, just type in Boxster or Cayman GTS and make sure you check whether they're PDK (has S-A after it)

Mario149

7,758 posts

179 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Twinfan said:
PDLS+ only adds auto-dipping/adjustment of full beam, and I think you have to activate it every time you start the car. I decided it wasn't worth it
This^^, I'd save the money next time

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Thanks! Currently 202 PDK vs 78 manuals.

NBTBRV8

2,062 posts

209 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Mario149 said:
Lovely, but a couple of suggestions:

1) I'd ditch the PDLS+. I've got it and unless you're going to be driving lots at night, I wouldn't bother. And even if you were it's marginal, I've only used my twice in 6 months hehe

2) Think you could save on the steering column leather as well, I don't have it but I couldn't tell you what the column looks like on mine now and I drove my car yesterday, so it can't look that bad silly
I do quite a bit of highway miles at night, both dual lane and multi-lane and use my high beam at every opportunity. So thought I'd give it a go.

The steering column casing is cheap and the contrasting stitching is a nice touch.

PhilLL said:
I'm also in 2 minds about the leather steering column - on the one hand I think it finishes the interior off nicely and I would definitely spec it with a colourful leather interior but with the standard GTS black interior without deviating stitching it might not be as obvious. Ditto Alcantara sun visors!
See above

Robograd

152 posts

123 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Hello there
Sorry for not responding earlier. I've been out for a meal on the promise of a future 30k profit.

Seriously though, my point is, way into the mists of time, maybe >10 yrs or so, when we're all driving (or been driven by) electric slot cars, the visceral pleasure of a manual NA car will be very attractive. Especially after the enervating effect that having no input into a journey has: think of those boring journeys as a passenger: do you fall asleep? Add a relatively simple gearbox & suspension set-up to the mix cf with the complexities & expense of repair (remember cars depreciate: spares get relatively more expensive) of PASM & PDK etc & a simply specified Cayman GTS becomes an attractive proposition. Here, think of the arguments levied against spec'ing PCCBs new re: ongoing maintanence. Much more so than the stratosphericly priced stuff of today, as the prospective buyer pool is bigger.

The provenance accruing from rave notices in the press/YouTube et al, pre GT4, won't harm the Cayman GTS' future kudos either.

There I've said it, I'll go lie down now while I await the fallout. My tin hat & flak jacket are at the ready.

Phill/Twinfan, I'm with you.
My GTS is specified leaning more to the comfort side of the spectrum. No PDK, nor X73, but Bose, cruise, GTS interior. Oh dear!!
For my sins I have to admit I do have a hopeful deposit in for a GT4 - so what do i know? But you can never have too much of a good thing, what?