Cayman GTS

[NBTBRV8]

gunner said:

Thanks guys.I own a GT4 but have managed to get a very late GTS slot.Just love these cars,I know the GT4 is a different 'thing' but very excited to be speccing a GTS.Thinking manual,ceramics,cwm,those platinum whhels + stuff that I miss on the GT4 (folding mirrors,park assist etc) and any other particular suggestions gladly received...

Here is my spec, but bear in mind that here in Australia a lot of UK options are standard.

http://www.porsche-code.com/PGBVAWV2

[Mario149]

Prestonese said:

You might want to consider lack of door decals.... :-)

Actually, it's one of the few things I sometimes wish I had on mine but you really don't need to add much externally in my view.

Funny story:

I actually took my BGTS back to the OPC as I thought it was missing the door decals. Took photos of the doors and everything, sent them to the salesman who sent his apologies and told me to bring it in to be sorted. Dropped the car off, technician took a look, apologized again. Got a call the next day saying that the car *did* have decals. What??!! Went back, and lo and behold, if you went right up to the door, like eyeballs 18 inches away and exactly perpendicular to the bodywork, you could *just about* make out the "GTS" sticker Because of shadows/angles on the door and the fact my car is DBM, it's almost impossible to see....oops

[AndyCGTS]

gunner said:

Andy CGTS Is there any other spec on the exterior of your car I should be aware of?It really looks perfect...
As for the rest of it I'll go through it with Porsche Reading but the configurator is monumentally confusing (to me).Agree on all suggestions so far but genuinely bemused by interior trim options and what they cost...
I've been told because it's a late slot that anything not on the configurator is a no no...shame but I really think as a dd this ticks every box for me.

My car has the following spec (I think ive remembered everything):

Exterior Colour: Carrara White Metallic
Interior Colour: Black leather with Rhodium Silver Alcantara GTS package

Exterior:
ParkAssist (front and rear)
Electrically folding exterior mirrors


Transmission / Chassis:
Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
Sports chassis, 20 mm lower Exclusive X73
Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) incl. mechanically locking rear differential
Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB)

Wheels:
20-inch Carrera S wheels
Wheels painted in satin platinum (complete) Exclusive


Interior
GTS interior package
Adaptive cruise control including Porsche Active Safe (PAS)
Automatically dimming mirrors with integrated rain sensor
Light design package
Carbon Bucket Seats
Two-zone automatic climate control
Smoking package
Interior Leather SportDesign steering wheel


Audio / Comm.
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module
BOSE® surround sound-system
Telephone module
Digital radio

If you want to know anything else or need any other pictures of bits please let me know.

[Prestonese]

Mario149 said:

Prestonese said:

You might want to consider lack of door decals.... :-)

Actually, it's one of the few things I sometimes wish I had on mine but you really don't need to add much externally in my view.

Funny story:

I actually took my BGTS back to the OPC as I thought it was missing the door decals. Took photos of the doors and everything, sent them to the salesman who sent his apologies and told me to bring it in to be sorted. Dropped the car off, technician took a look, apologized again. Got a call the next day saying that the car *did* have decals. What??!! Went back, and lo and behold, if you went right up to the door, like eyeballs 18 inches away and exactly perpendicular to the bodywork, you could *just about* make out the "GTS" sticker Because of shadows/angles on the door and the fact my car is DBM, it's almost impossible to see....oops

I didn't know you could retrofit the decals? Funny story nonetheless....

[wellzee]

Prestonese said:

I didn't know you could retrofit the decals? Funny story nonetheless....

You can, but OPC will charge you 3 figures for the privilege.

[Mario149]

£100+ to put some stickers on?!

[AndyCGTS]

Mario149 said:

£100+ to put some stickers on?!

I guess that sounds about right for a OPC.

I was charged £238.60 the other day for a oil change, even though I supplied my own oil.

[Budweiser]

Couldn't an independent have sorted that foe you? Or is it a warranty issue or...?

[bcr5784]

woollyjoe said:

RBT0 said:

Mines squeak very rarely (CGTS), with 2.9k miles on the clock.
Usually from low speed to standstill.

It is absolutely normal, due to big discs and calipers, for a sportscar.

I love the race car feeling, as this issue is proper of a race car

Edited by RBT0 on Wednesday 21st October 18:30

When they screech, it is usually the vibration of the pads which happens more under light braking.

Next time you get the car serviced, ask them to stick some copper slip behind them:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=112...

Don't really want to rain on anyone's parade - but REALLY serious race cars would be thoroughly unpleasant on the road - and many of the characteristics that make them good on track are ones that really detract from them on the road. Lack of sound insulation makes the whine of the (straight cut) gearbox very unpleasant, the rose jointed suspension is very noisy, harsh and very bouncy, exacerbated by the lack of seat padding, and the (solidly mounted) engine gives you a vibro massage. The LSD clonks dreadfully on any tight turns. I'd argue that a Caterham (I'm a big fan) is probably as near to a race car on the road - that you would want - and most models have a (relatively) soft engine mounts, helical cut synchromesh gearboxes, some flex in the suspension bushes, possibly even carpets. Porsches are a million miles from that.

Edited by bcr5784 on Tuesday 9th February 19:48

Edited by bcr5784 on Tuesday 9th February 21:27

[wellzee]

Mario149 said:

£100+ to put some stickers on?!

Sadly yes. The previous owner of my old GTS had removed them on the spec sheet, I took it in to my local OPC to ask them to add them and off the top of my head I believe the quote was £140.

[PhilLL]

zebra_3 said:

For good idea of how they look Silverstone have Saphhire Blue GTS with satin platinum wheels. Hard to tell on cruddy configuration pics

I'll have a look at that one when I go to the PEC for sure

[PhilLL]

Kazandy37 said:

Hi, found these 2 images for Sapphire Blue - this is what made me think turbos might work better than black satin. I had a white CGTS and the black stains looked stunning, but not so sure on the blue





What's the view of fellow PH's?

I was set on Platinum Satin but seeing these photos has got me rethinking..

[NBTBRV8]

I'd go with the turbo wheels out of those you've posted.

[edo]

They look a bit lost in Black, I would go Platinum.

[Twinfan]

edo said:

They look a bit lost in Black, I would go Platinum.

Me too. I like blue and platinum.

[edo]

PS. Sapphire Blue is THE colour to have

Biased, me? Never. I actually wouldn't have chosen Black wheels and my get them refinished at some point.

[gunner]

So my final question please,how necessary is the 20mm lowering and torque vectoring in reality?my car will be 90% a road car with perhaps the odd track day (although GT4 best suited for that I suspect)...thanks so much in advance and thanks for all the help so far.Spec has to be in this week.

[Mario149]

gunner said:

So my final question please,how necessary is the 20mm lowering and torque vectoring in reality?my car will be 90% a road car with perhaps the odd track day (although GT4 best suited for that I suspect)...thanks so much in advance and thanks for all the help so far.Spec has to be in this week.

Neither are necessary, especially if you're not going to seriously track the car. X73 isn't going to improve your track enjoyment much as it's not that much firmer than PASM, and unless you're a bit of a driving guru, probably not your lap time either. But others have said they prefer the steering feel on X73. I'd buy X73 for the looks more than anything else, but it's 10mm lower than GTS PASM, not 20mm to clarify. Torque vectoring you can feel on track IME and I think the LSD too, but again, is it worth the money? Really probably not. I got it simply because, and it is a small sample, the cars I've driven that do have an LSD seem to have a more benign back end over the limit than those that don't. But that could be psychology at play for me!

Best thing to do would be to drive cars with the differing options back to back at PEC Silverstone or similar

[Mario149]

All that said, since X73 is a no cost option and almost as comfy as PASM, and TV/LSD is only about £900 from memory, it's not the end of the world in comfort if you order the former and realise it's a "mistake". Ditto financially if you order the latter

[Twinfan]

Mine will be a 100% road car and I've gone for PASM and PTV. PTV is £890.

My reasoning was that I wanted PTV as it's designed to improve handling, plus you get the LSD with it. As I'm not sold on carbon brakes, the possible increased wear of pads/steel discs is not going to be an issue given their reasonable replacement cost.

I went for PASM as I think it's a superior system to a fixed rate passive setup. I assume the X73 SS suspension is designed to be excellent on smooth roads/tracks and it probably is, however after experiencing the crashy-at-times suspension on our GT86 I think the options via PASM are going to be better for me and my use of the car. Yes it's a no-cost option, but if you cost it up on an 'S' it's cheaper than PASM (£689 vs £971) so you'd end up paying the extra £282 for the cheaper setup. I also don't like the extra 10mm drop it gives, for me it just doesn't work on a car unless it has the enhanced aero of the GT models - longer front bumpers/splitters and the large rear spoiler.

Edited by Twinfan on Tuesday 16th February 16:21