Cayman GTS

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GT4P

5,201 posts

185 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Heathrow said:
Sure they are rare (and hugely dersirable). I just can't see a £60k GTS outperforming a £50k S, like-for-like age, mileage and spec (as near as is possible) in say 3 years from now. I predict they will depreciate at the same rate.
Already nearly there http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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That's cheap, although it is a fairly basic spec. Probably won't hang around long unless there's something wrong with it.

pete.g

1,527 posts

206 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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GT4P said:
Heathrow said:
Sure they are rare (and hugely dersirable). I just can't see a £60k GTS outperforming a £50k S, like-for-like age, mileage and spec (as near as is possible) in say 3 years from now. I predict they will depreciate at the same rate.
Already nearly there http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
I've already posted similar sentiments in this thread before - it has mainly been positive reflections from owners and enquiries from prospective owners and has been a bit of an oasis from the bickering, wallet waving and values oriented threads elsewhere.

Please don't let this slide into a values thread.

Budweiser

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1,077 posts

184 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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The Cayman in any form is a great car. Having come from a line of various 911 models (loved them all) The CGTS is a keeper for me. Where the car goes value wise is an irrelevance to me and boring to most...


Maxym

2,033 posts

236 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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GT4P said:
Car is cheap (almost as chips) given it has the interior and exterior packs.

I can't see any GTS model sliding into the sub-10K bracket if it's well looked after. Unless the world starts to hate fossil fuel-powered vehicles that you have to pilot yourself - which is a distinct possibility...

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Maxym said:
Car is cheap (almost as chips) given it has the interior and exterior packs.
It doesn't have either. No contrast stitching in grey or red on the interior or carbon, and the exterior plastics just look like they've been polished slightly by a valeter. When painted, as part of the exterior kit, they're high gloss black.

It is cheap though. Non-OPC obviously, but highish miles and low spec. No interior upgrades, no PCM, no PTV, no stereo upgrades, no parking sensors etc etc.

Maxym

2,033 posts

236 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Twinfan said:
Maxym said:
Car is cheap (almost as chips) given it has the interior and exterior packs.
It doesn't have either. No contrast stitching in grey or red on the interior or carbon, and the exterior plastics just look like they've been polished slightly by a valeter. When painted, as part of the exterior kit, they're high gloss black.

It is cheap though. Non-OPC obviously, but highish miles and low spec. No interior upgrades, no PCM, no PTV, no stereo upgrades, no parking sensors etc etc.
That looked like contrasting stitching to me... but on closer inspection it doesn't have the exterior pack. Maybe I was seduced by the 'GTS' on the headrests and the Alantara wheel.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Maxym said:
Maybe I was seduced by the 'GTS' on the headrests and the Alantara wheel.
Standard GTS bits smile

m999psw

266 posts

198 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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But it does have hoover stripes in the boot carpet which wasn't an option I ticked.

Maxym

2,033 posts

236 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Twinfan said:
Maxym said:
Maybe I was seduced by the 'GTS' on the headrests and the Alantara wheel.
Standard GTS bits smile
Ah thanks. Mine has the interior pack but a leather wheel (which I prefer).

Dreds

87 posts

102 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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It probably only has £1500 of extras on it, I'm not surprised that it's £50K. It was probably only £57K new nearly 3 years ago.

Heathrow

448 posts

130 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Assuming you aren't planning to keep your car forever, where do you go next after a 981 Cayman? 991 would be one option but seems expensive in comparison and doesn't offer the same mid engined experience. Interior is basically the same but you dont get the noise in the cabin in the same way and the car is less agile. Exige is more focused but less polished as an all rounder. Always wonder why more people don't buy Caymans!! I think it may be a car that you miss once it's gone.

Fascinated to see what after market enhancements come to the fore now that cars are starting to come out of warranty. Not that the car wants for anything but know lots of people like to tinker.

GT4P

5,201 posts

185 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Dreds said:
It probably only has £1500 of extras on it, I'm not surprised that it's £50K. It was probably only £57K new nearly 3 years ago.
Yep no buckets or X73 so it ain't worth much more than a CS!
The market IMHO will follow the same as the 987.2cs/CR in that spec. is key and things like extra carbon or leather etc makes no difference!

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Dreds said:
It probably only has £1500 of extras on it, I'm not surprised that it's £50K. It was probably only £57K new nearly 3 years ago.
Probably true, but I'm inclined to think that it's the lack of PCM and upgraded sound system (grossly overpriced as they were) that is depressing the price.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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No parking sensors probably hits it worst for your Average Joe. If you're buying it as more of a weekend/track car it would be a good money saver.

wellzee

445 posts

121 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Heathrow said:
Assuming you aren't planning to keep your car forever, where do you go next after a 981 Cayman? 991 would be one option but seems expensive in comparison and doesn't offer the same mid engined experience. Interior is basically the same but you dont get the noise in the cabin in the same way and the car is less agile. Exige is more focused but less polished as an all rounder. Always wonder why more people don't buy Caymans!! I think it may be a car that you miss once it's gone.

Fascinated to see what after market enhancements come to the fore now that cars are starting to come out of warranty. Not that the car wants for anything but know lots of people like to tinker.
I had this problem - went from GTS to a 991 4S; and regretted it. The 911 just never did it for me. Within 6 months I had another CGTS on order. I have now moved on again though - this time to a 981 Boxster Spyder which I absolutely love but I have the same issue - there isn't a car (that isn't crazy money) that appeals more. So, for the time being at least, I'm staying put; and with the next Spyder likely to be F4T (imo) I could be staying put for some time!

dreamcar

1,067 posts

111 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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wellzee said:
I had this problem - went from GTS to a 991 4S; and regretted it. The 911 just never did it for me. Within 6 months I had another CGTS on order. I have now moved on again though - this time to a 981 Boxster Spyder which I absolutely love but I have the same issue - there isn't a car (that isn't crazy money) that appeals more. So, for the time being at least, I'm staying put; and with the next Spyder likely to be F4T (imo) I could be staying put for some time!
Much the same view here; after 2 x 987 Boxster S and a 987/2 Cayman S we went to a 997/2 Carrera S; great car but whilst my wife loved it I just didn't really jell with it; sold it for our current BGTS. Had several drives in 991, again a great car but I thought more GT than sports car in character and would have got bored with one pretty quickly. The only Porsche's that would appeal now would be either a good used 991/1 GTS or the latest 991/2 GTS. But the latter priced up on the configurator came to within a whisker of £110k!!!

Heathrow

448 posts

130 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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I came from the opposite direction - 997 C2 to Cayman S. The 991.1 holds some appeal in GTS guise - a useful 100bhp increase. And 4WD option for something different. My experience of the car is that the noise is more muted (comparing PSE equipped cars). I think this is a combination of better NVH suppression and the lack of engine air intakes, which limit the induction noise that for me is a really nice feature of the Cayman.

I keep toying with changing but I know I'll regret it. I feel fortunate to have ticked the 911 box early so I don't feel in any way short changed by the Cayman. In a fantasy world, I would love to seen a genuine Porsche Clubsport effort with lightweight panels, plastic windows, and no aero, engine from he GT4 etc.

JasonSteel

566 posts

96 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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on a different note, i need a clarification please - i don't seem to be able to find the option to automatically lower the side mirrors when reverse is engaged.

i've checked the menus but there is no "reverse options" item - is this function an option?

ellroy

7,027 posts

225 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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It's only there for the 18 way seats I think?