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I just read about this for the first time. Postings on other forums suggest it will be announced in Geneva 2015. Priced probably somewhere near or above a 911 C2S... 
and here is a random completely unofficial render i found online:
motortrend said:
All of which brings us to perhaps the most exciting new car Porsche will bring to market in the next three years, the GT4.
Based on the Cayman and probably destined to be called the Cayman GT4, the GT4 will be the big-power, mid-engine, reasonably priced Porsche every purist has been crowing about since forever. By reasonably priced we mean compared to a GT3.
Pricing will be about $125K and the GT4 will sit way above the recently created Cayman GTS. What makes a GT4? Expect a transmission similar to the modified PDK unit found in the GT3. What engine is still the big question mark, and interestingly might be settled this June in France. If the 919 Hybrid goes real big and wins the 24 Hours of Le Mans, expect Porsche to try and capitalize on that fact by pushing a turbocharged four-cylinder plug-in hybrid powertrain. If the 919’s teething problems continue, the GT4 could remain as a flat-six, but with hybrid assist. Expect to also see a Boxster version of the GT4, though it will most likely be called the RS Spyder. Either way, validation testing on the inline-4 turbo is taking place right now.
http://wot.motortrend.com/1405_porsches_plan_more_horsepower_more_hybrids.htmlBased on the Cayman and probably destined to be called the Cayman GT4, the GT4 will be the big-power, mid-engine, reasonably priced Porsche every purist has been crowing about since forever. By reasonably priced we mean compared to a GT3.
Pricing will be about $125K and the GT4 will sit way above the recently created Cayman GTS. What makes a GT4? Expect a transmission similar to the modified PDK unit found in the GT3. What engine is still the big question mark, and interestingly might be settled this June in France. If the 919 Hybrid goes real big and wins the 24 Hours of Le Mans, expect Porsche to try and capitalize on that fact by pushing a turbocharged four-cylinder plug-in hybrid powertrain. If the 919’s teething problems continue, the GT4 could remain as a flat-six, but with hybrid assist. Expect to also see a Boxster version of the GT4, though it will most likely be called the RS Spyder. Either way, validation testing on the inline-4 turbo is taking place right now.
and here is a random completely unofficial render i found online:
They're also quoting a price in the USA of $125k where a base 991GT3 is $130k and the Cayman GTS is $75k - so I can't see this as being a reliable piece of journalism. Either that or Porsche are being very optimistic on the value of the Cayman brand vs the 911.
As for the engine - 4 cylinder in-line turbo hybrid cashing in on 919 success. Would that give it genuine motorsport heritage unlike the 991GT3 lump but similar to the fabled Mezger;)
However, if they did produce a high revving, low weight, more focussed Cayman with 380bhp I would certainly be interested.
As for the engine - 4 cylinder in-line turbo hybrid cashing in on 919 success. Would that give it genuine motorsport heritage unlike the 991GT3 lump but similar to the fabled Mezger;)
However, if they did produce a high revving, low weight, more focussed Cayman with 380bhp I would certainly be interested.
It won't be any of those things though if its hybrid. It will be very fast but heavy, sound like a household appliance and leave one with constant worries about future values with all that complicated electrickery stuff in there. Hybrids work at the top end as the uber rich don't care and they also work at the bottom end where the sandal wearing brigade are willing to take a £25K bath to justify their eco smugness. For the rest of us they have an enormously long way to go to move beyond the 2 barge poles position.
NJH said:
It won't be any of those things though if its hybrid. It will be very fast but heavy, sound like a household appliance and leave one with constant worries about future values with all that complicated electrickery stuff in there. Hybrids work at the top end as the uber rich don't care and they also work at the bottom end where the sandal wearing brigade are willing to take a £25K bath to justify their eco smugness. For the rest of us they have an enormously long way to go to move beyond the 2 barge poles position.
Perfectly put 
V8KSN said:
NJH said:
It won't be any of those things though if its hybrid. It will be very fast but heavy, sound like a household appliance and leave one with constant worries about future values with all that complicated electrickery stuff in there. Hybrids work at the top end as the uber rich don't care and they also work at the bottom end where the sandal wearing brigade are willing to take a £25K bath to justify their eco smugness. For the rest of us they have an enormously long way to go to move beyond the 2 barge poles position.
Perfectly put Saves on manufacturing and means someone has job.
mrdemon said:
griffter said:
I'm in the codswallop camp. What manufacturer would announce a car a year away, the drive train for which hadn't yet been decided on, yet alone developed?
Lotus did with a whole new line up :-)I think we will get a more powerful Cayman quite soon. I expect it to have towards 400bhp and to have a turbo 4-pot boxer.
I have thought for a while that the fast Cayman is something that Porsche has up its sleeve and ready to deploy any time that it wants to make a big splash in the market. Can you imagine the sheer quantity of press that it would generate? Journos have wet dreams about Porsche "unleashing" the Cayman (partly because of a strange reluctance to accept that the 911 has been the best sports car going for so long).
Now that Jaguar has parked its tanks squarely on the lawn that is the price cross-over between the Cayman and the 911, the sensible things to do are as follows:-
(1) Insert into the gap a bloody fast Cayman that will blow the F-Type out of the water. Not that hard, in my view, given that it has a superior layout.
(2) Move the 911 up a bit, getting rid of the base Carrera (which is a strange car, in my view).
I have thought for a while that the fast Cayman is something that Porsche has up its sleeve and ready to deploy any time that it wants to make a big splash in the market. Can you imagine the sheer quantity of press that it would generate? Journos have wet dreams about Porsche "unleashing" the Cayman (partly because of a strange reluctance to accept that the 911 has been the best sports car going for so long).
Now that Jaguar has parked its tanks squarely on the lawn that is the price cross-over between the Cayman and the 911, the sensible things to do are as follows:-
(1) Insert into the gap a bloody fast Cayman that will blow the F-Type out of the water. Not that hard, in my view, given that it has a superior layout.
(2) Move the 911 up a bit, getting rid of the base Carrera (which is a strange car, in my view).
The GTS range was always going to happen, Porsche have had the GTS badge in the range for a while now, it's seen as the best of the best for that model.
we will not see another Cayman now for ages imo
you have the 2015 991 face lifts, then the 981 face lifts, then at the end of the gen 2 981 face lift , you might get a new more power full model.
before then, cannot see it happening.
we will not see another Cayman now for ages imo
you have the 2015 991 face lifts, then the 981 face lifts, then at the end of the gen 2 981 face lift , you might get a new more power full model.
before then, cannot see it happening.
I agree with ORD but I would not be surprised to see some hybrid technology in there, although the 400 hp 4-cylinder would be the much more obvious choice. Hybrid drivetrains are here to stay and Porsche will sooner or later add them to every range, whether PH likes it or not. (see PDK in 991 GT3)
A hybrid GT4 would solve the issues that ORD mentioned and give Porsche the chance to establish some credibility with hybrid in (non super-) sports cars before touching the holy grail that is 911. Pricing and the fact that it would be sold as a semi-trackday version would make sure it doesn’t cannibalise into the 911 market. Like the old 914-6 which in my opinion was a superior car than the 911S of its time, yet it didn’t sell that well at all.
I’m in the market for a Spyder/Cayman R, so I *really* hope the Cayman GT4 will be either a 4-pot or a hybrid, preferably both.
A hybrid GT4 would solve the issues that ORD mentioned and give Porsche the chance to establish some credibility with hybrid in (non super-) sports cars before touching the holy grail that is 911. Pricing and the fact that it would be sold as a semi-trackday version would make sure it doesn’t cannibalise into the 911 market. Like the old 914-6 which in my opinion was a superior car than the 911S of its time, yet it didn’t sell that well at all.
I’m in the market for a Spyder/Cayman R, so I *really* hope the Cayman GT4 will be either a 4-pot or a hybrid, preferably both.
Edited by EricE on Friday 9th May 13:04
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