Seriously want a Boxster GTS
Discussion
Before you take this decision you want to spend a few hours with a configurator and sit in one or two
You have omitted a couple of basic crucial items:-
1. Roll bars in body colour
2. Wind deflector
3. Red seat belts
The GTS comes standard with leather/ alcantara sports seats. It also comes with sport design steering wheel. They are first class and upgrading them is a pure waste of money. If you want speed limit alert which is very useful on continental motorways you have to have the PCM. The GTS interior pack does I think give you a lot of leather incl the door caps and dash which does help. The 20" Carrera wheels look good but even better with the satin platinum finish.
I would bin the blue leather and hood? Red hoods can look good but always IMHO a bit effeminate.
Dual zone AC. Why? You are sitting six inches apart and you think you can create a separate climatic zone?
Forget PCCB very nice to be sure but standard Porsche brakes are the biz.
The big decisions are do you go with the creamy manual or the perfect PDK, and do you have the GTS interior with the signature embroidery. It is a con but you know that you are going to wish you had taken it.
You have omitted a couple of basic crucial items:-
1. Roll bars in body colour
2. Wind deflector
3. Red seat belts
The GTS comes standard with leather/ alcantara sports seats. It also comes with sport design steering wheel. They are first class and upgrading them is a pure waste of money. If you want speed limit alert which is very useful on continental motorways you have to have the PCM. The GTS interior pack does I think give you a lot of leather incl the door caps and dash which does help. The 20" Carrera wheels look good but even better with the satin platinum finish.
I would bin the blue leather and hood? Red hoods can look good but always IMHO a bit effeminate.
Dual zone AC. Why? You are sitting six inches apart and you think you can create a separate climatic zone?
Forget PCCB very nice to be sure but standard Porsche brakes are the biz.
The big decisions are do you go with the creamy manual or the perfect PDK, and do you have the GTS interior with the signature embroidery. It is a con but you know that you are going to wish you had taken it.
Edited by cardigankid on Wednesday 6th August 23:03
cardigankid said:
Before you take this decision you want to spend a few hours with a configurator and sit in one or two
You have omitted a couple of basic crucial items:-
1. Roll bars in body colour
2. Wind deflector
3. Red seat belts
The GTS comes standard with leather/ alcantara sports seats. It also comes with sport design steering wheel. They are first class and upgrading them is a pure waste of money. If you want speed limit alert which is very useful on continental motorways you have to have the PCM. The GTS interior pack does I think give you a lot of leather incl the door caps and dash which does help. The 20" Carrera wheels look good but even better with the satin platinum finish.
I would bin the blue leather and hood? Red hoods can look good but always IMHO a bit effeminate.
Dual zone AC. Why? You are sitting six inches apart and you think you can create a separate climatic zone?
Forget PCCB very nice to be sure but standard Porsche brakes are the biz.
The big decisions are do you go with the creamy manual or the perfect PDK, and do you have the GTS interior with the signature embroidery. It is a con but you know that you are going to wish you had taken it.
Hi there cardigan kid,You have omitted a couple of basic crucial items:-
1. Roll bars in body colour
2. Wind deflector
3. Red seat belts
The GTS comes standard with leather/ alcantara sports seats. It also comes with sport design steering wheel. They are first class and upgrading them is a pure waste of money. If you want speed limit alert which is very useful on continental motorways you have to have the PCM. The GTS interior pack does I think give you a lot of leather incl the door caps and dash which does help. The 20" Carrera wheels look good but even better with the satin platinum finish.
I would bin the blue leather and hood? Red hoods can look good but always IMHO a bit effeminate.
Dual zone AC. Why? You are sitting six inches apart and you think you can create a separate climatic zone?
Forget PCCB very nice to be sure but standard Porsche brakes are the biz.
The big decisions are do you go with the creamy manual or the perfect PDK, and do you have the GTS interior with the signature embroidery. It is a con but you know that you are going to wish you had taken it.
Edited by cardigankid on Wednesday 6th August 23:03
I am sticking with the GTS interior and the black hood, and I don't think PCCB is worth it either. I think that the dual zone climate is a must as I do not like cars without climate at all. That's just me. Red belts with white?!? Err no thanks. PDK is a must as it adds more to the driving experience and it may be asked to do the occasional commute to London Heathrow.... This is going to be a keeper and I want it to be just the way I want it. It has the wind deflector as standard afaik so I will check when the deposit goes down today
Huskyman said:
Hi there cardigan kid,
I am sticking with the GTS interior and the black hood, and I don't think PCCB is worth it either. I think that the dual zone climate is a must as I do not like cars without climate at all. That's just me. Red belts with white?!? Err no thanks. PDK is a must as it adds more to the driving experience and it may be asked to do the occasional commute to London Heathrow.... This is going to be a keeper and I want it to be just the way I want it. It has the wind deflector as standard afaik so I will check when the deposit goes down today
Good for you, sounds great to me, congratulations..I am sticking with the GTS interior and the black hood, and I don't think PCCB is worth it either. I think that the dual zone climate is a must as I do not like cars without climate at all. That's just me. Red belts with white?!? Err no thanks. PDK is a must as it adds more to the driving experience and it may be asked to do the occasional commute to London Heathrow.... This is going to be a keeper and I want it to be just the way I want it. It has the wind deflector as standard afaik so I will check when the deposit goes down today
Budweiser said:
Huskyman said:
Hi there cardigan kid,
I am sticking with the GTS interior and the black hood, and I don't think PCCB is worth it either. I think that the dual zone climate is a must as I do not like cars without climate at all. That's just me. Red belts with white?!? Err no thanks. PDK is a must as it adds more to the driving experience and it may be asked to do the occasional commute to London Heathrow.... This is going to be a keeper and I want it to be just the way I want it. It has the wind deflector as standard afaik so I will check when the deposit goes down today
Good for you, sounds great to me, congratulations..I am sticking with the GTS interior and the black hood, and I don't think PCCB is worth it either. I think that the dual zone climate is a must as I do not like cars without climate at all. That's just me. Red belts with white?!? Err no thanks. PDK is a must as it adds more to the driving experience and it may be asked to do the occasional commute to London Heathrow.... This is going to be a keeper and I want it to be just the way I want it. It has the wind deflector as standard afaik so I will check when the deposit goes down today
3k deposit paid for the car for March delivery! Can't wait
Huskyman said:
Thank-you. I saw an S with the body coloured roll bars and it did look awesome, box ticked
3k deposit paid for the car for March delivery! Can't wait
I presume March is what you asked for as there seem to be slots available for November .3k deposit paid for the car for March delivery! Can't wait
I was only asked for £2k deposit !!?
curley said:
Huskyman said:
Thank-you. I saw an S with the body coloured roll bars and it did look awesome, box ticked
3k deposit paid for the car for March delivery! Can't wait
I presume March is what you asked for as there seem to be slots available for November .3k deposit paid for the car for March delivery! Can't wait
I was only asked for £2k deposit !!?
First new car since 1998!! With regards to the deposit I didn't feel it was unreasonable, but a bag of sand less sis easier on the wallet...Nice video of a thrapped GTS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1LhUzL3qdU
Of course the Boxster/Cayman is a dull drive, no drama etc. etc.
SS7
Of course the Boxster/Cayman is a dull drive, no drama etc. etc.
SS7
TDT said:
They build the engine and then tune it down with the ECU - in order to create the 'different' outputs for each application.
350 - 991 Carrera
340 - Cayman GTS
330 - Boxster GTS
325 - Cayman S
315 - Boxster S
This saves Porsche time and money - and maximises profits as they charge you significantly to step up in performance for something that is already built into the car. It's perfect.
Tuning vendors that have been doing work on this engine believe that 350 of the 991 Carrera is also a capped limit and that the 3.4 could potentially output upto 370/hp in its best tune.
It has been ascertained that the ECU controlled throttle system starts to close down the throttle and inbound airflow at higher revs restricting the power that can be created - this is also why intake side modifications have limited effect. The key is to crack the ECU - if this is done - it could get really interesting.
As a person with little knowledge of the oily bits beyond a dip stick and even less knowledge or interest in all things with a chip in it-unless it comes with a fish- would it not be possible(with some mods, I'm sure) to change the ECU to gain a power increase in a Box/Cayman? 350 - 991 Carrera
340 - Cayman GTS
330 - Boxster GTS
325 - Cayman S
315 - Boxster S
This saves Porsche time and money - and maximises profits as they charge you significantly to step up in performance for something that is already built into the car. It's perfect.
Tuning vendors that have been doing work on this engine believe that 350 of the 991 Carrera is also a capped limit and that the 3.4 could potentially output upto 370/hp in its best tune.
It has been ascertained that the ECU controlled throttle system starts to close down the throttle and inbound airflow at higher revs restricting the power that can be created - this is also why intake side modifications have limited effect. The key is to crack the ECU - if this is done - it could get really interesting.
If not and there is nobody working on this full time ......there should be.
jredram said:
TDT said:
They build the engine and then tune it down with the ECU - in order to create the 'different' outputs for each application.
350 - 991 Carrera
340 - Cayman GTS
330 - Boxster GTS
325 - Cayman S
315 - Boxster S
This saves Porsche time and money - and maximises profits as they charge you significantly to step up in performance for something that is already built into the car. It's perfect.
Tuning vendors that have been doing work on this engine believe that 350 of the 991 Carrera is also a capped limit and that the 3.4 could potentially output upto 370/hp in its best tune.
It has been ascertained that the ECU controlled throttle system starts to close down the throttle and inbound airflow at higher revs restricting the power that can be created - this is also why intake side modifications have limited effect. The key is to crack the ECU - if this is done - it could get really interesting.
As a person with little knowledge of the oily bits beyond a dip stick and even less knowledge or interest in all things with a chip in it-unless it comes with a fish- would it not be possible(with some mods, I'm sure) to change the ECU to gain a power increase in a Box/Cayman? 350 - 991 Carrera
340 - Cayman GTS
330 - Boxster GTS
325 - Cayman S
315 - Boxster S
This saves Porsche time and money - and maximises profits as they charge you significantly to step up in performance for something that is already built into the car. It's perfect.
Tuning vendors that have been doing work on this engine believe that 350 of the 991 Carrera is also a capped limit and that the 3.4 could potentially output upto 370/hp in its best tune.
It has been ascertained that the ECU controlled throttle system starts to close down the throttle and inbound airflow at higher revs restricting the power that can be created - this is also why intake side modifications have limited effect. The key is to crack the ECU - if this is done - it could get really interesting.
If not and there is nobody working on this full time ......there should be.
Companies such as DMS are already doing remaps for the S version that take it up to 342, so this engine is pretty much there already. I think there could be some more ponies to be released from race catalysts, but the exhaust note is so good in sports mode I would be weary of making any changes. The GTS felt about as quick as it needed to be for the road
Huskyman said:
mrdemon said:
"PDK is a must as it adds more to the driving experience "
lol can see we are on the Boxster section.....
Hello troll,lol can see we are on the Boxster section.....
Thank-you for being rude and sarcastic, and in this sweeping generalisation are you including 991 GT3 drivers?!? Err no.
N.B. I rate the PDK box on the latest Cayman S above the 'manuel' btw......
jcarruthers said:
If I could have the GTS map on my 2010 CS w/PSE I'd be very happy — providing you get all the extra pops and bangs with the exhaust.
+1. Just debating whether to wait until the warranty runs out. Agree the PSE angle needs checking out, wouldn't be without it now-it just get better and better.GTS or otherwise one thing that Ive learned to hate over the last couple of days in the Boxster is that when it rains 2 things happen...
1. When the window drops as you open the door it drips straight onto the boot release buttons,
2. when you open the door it drips straight onto your thigh....
1. When the window drops as you open the door it drips straight onto the boot release buttons,
2. when you open the door it drips straight onto your thigh....
Am enjoying this thread, particularly the debate around what to spec or not spec. It took me a week to settle mine. At the end I got a bit stuck on colour and whether to go for the sports suspension. Eventually settled on racing yellow, and sports suspension. My GTS is currently being built (allegedly). Without speccing anything extraordinary the final price of the car can get very hairy! FYI I have shared my spec below. I am now wondering whether black painted 911 wheels were such a good idea... Sadly I had to forego the internal GTS pack because of another option I wanted which precluded it (forget which now). Similarly the Alcantara went due to another clash of spec. Note, PCCBs are not included, mainly because I think they don't add that much edge, and also, please see total price of car at the bottom!
Exterior Colour 4V Black convertible top £ 0.00
P3 Racing Yellow £ 0.00
Interior Colour AZ Black leather interior £ 0.00
Exterior 089 GTS Black exterior package £ 680.00
625 Porsche Entry & Drive £ 599.00
636 ParkAssist front and rear £ 599.00
748 Electric folding outside mirrors £ 203.00
P13 Automatically dimming interior and
exterior mirrors with integrated rain
sensor
£ 332.00
XYB Fuel cap in aluminium Look Exclusive £ 89.00
Transmission / Chassis 220 Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) £ 890.00
250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) £ 2,351.00
658 Power steering Plus £ 179.00
X73 Sports suspension (20 mm lower)
Exclusive
£ 0.00
XLS Sports tailpipe Exclusive £ 365.00
Wheels 429 20-inch 911 Turbo Design wheels £ 890.00
Wheel Accessoires XDG Black (highgloss) painted wheels
Exclusive
£ 801.00
Interior 342 Seat heating £ 284.00
454 Cruise control £ 267.00
509 Fire extinguisher £ 101.00
541 Seat ventilation £ 632.00
573 2-zone automatic air conditioning £ 518.00
608 HomeLink® (programmable garage door
opener)
£ 194.00
630 Light design package £ 203.00
631 Speed limit display £ 284.00
714 Elimination alcantara £ 0.00
CGJ White - Sport Chrono stopwatch Exclusive £ 234.00
P04 Sports seats Plus (2-way, electric) £ 0.00
XFJ White instrument dials Exclusive £ 332.00
XHN Racing Yellow seat belts Exclusive £ 179.00
Interior Leather CFX Personalised floor mats with leather
edging Exclusive
£ 215.00
CPE Key pouch in leather Exclusive £ 77.00
XSC Porsche crest embossed on head
restraints Exclusive
£ 138.00
XUV Storage compartment lid with model logo
Exclusive
£ 155.00
Interior Carbon EEJ Carbon interior package (with leather
interior/with PDK) Exclusive
£ 1,008.00
X69 Carbon door sill guards Exclusive £ 365.00
XHL Carbon heated multifunction steering
wheel Exclusive
£ 348.00
XHM Carbon centre console trim Exclusive £ 341.00
Interior Aluminium XXV Footrest in aluminium Exclusive £ 179.00
Audio / Communications 641 Electronic logbook £ 356.00
666 Telephone module £ 527.00
671 Voice control £ 308.00
680 BOSE® Surround Sound System £ 801.00
691 Digital radio £ 324.00
P23 Porsche Communication Management
(PCM) incl navigation module with
universal audio interface
£ 2,141.00
UN1 Online services £ 122.00
Others A01 Third Year Porsche Assistance £ 169.00
W02 Third Year Warranty £ 660.00
Total price £ 71,490.00
OK, so there were a couple or three small extravagances in there, but it puts into perspective the prices quoted when the vehicles are being marketed/tested and the real world price when you spec one to, say, a similar spec to an F-Type Jag where most of the above comes as standard!
My AM has gone and I am driving the Freelander for now so I hope they hurry with my build!! (But do it well ;-)
Exterior Colour 4V Black convertible top £ 0.00
P3 Racing Yellow £ 0.00
Interior Colour AZ Black leather interior £ 0.00
Exterior 089 GTS Black exterior package £ 680.00
625 Porsche Entry & Drive £ 599.00
636 ParkAssist front and rear £ 599.00
748 Electric folding outside mirrors £ 203.00
P13 Automatically dimming interior and
exterior mirrors with integrated rain
sensor
£ 332.00
XYB Fuel cap in aluminium Look Exclusive £ 89.00
Transmission / Chassis 220 Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) £ 890.00
250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) £ 2,351.00
658 Power steering Plus £ 179.00
X73 Sports suspension (20 mm lower)
Exclusive
£ 0.00
XLS Sports tailpipe Exclusive £ 365.00
Wheels 429 20-inch 911 Turbo Design wheels £ 890.00
Wheel Accessoires XDG Black (highgloss) painted wheels
Exclusive
£ 801.00
Interior 342 Seat heating £ 284.00
454 Cruise control £ 267.00
509 Fire extinguisher £ 101.00
541 Seat ventilation £ 632.00
573 2-zone automatic air conditioning £ 518.00
608 HomeLink® (programmable garage door
opener)
£ 194.00
630 Light design package £ 203.00
631 Speed limit display £ 284.00
714 Elimination alcantara £ 0.00
CGJ White - Sport Chrono stopwatch Exclusive £ 234.00
P04 Sports seats Plus (2-way, electric) £ 0.00
XFJ White instrument dials Exclusive £ 332.00
XHN Racing Yellow seat belts Exclusive £ 179.00
Interior Leather CFX Personalised floor mats with leather
edging Exclusive
£ 215.00
CPE Key pouch in leather Exclusive £ 77.00
XSC Porsche crest embossed on head
restraints Exclusive
£ 138.00
XUV Storage compartment lid with model logo
Exclusive
£ 155.00
Interior Carbon EEJ Carbon interior package (with leather
interior/with PDK) Exclusive
£ 1,008.00
X69 Carbon door sill guards Exclusive £ 365.00
XHL Carbon heated multifunction steering
wheel Exclusive
£ 348.00
XHM Carbon centre console trim Exclusive £ 341.00
Interior Aluminium XXV Footrest in aluminium Exclusive £ 179.00
Audio / Communications 641 Electronic logbook £ 356.00
666 Telephone module £ 527.00
671 Voice control £ 308.00
680 BOSE® Surround Sound System £ 801.00
691 Digital radio £ 324.00
P23 Porsche Communication Management
(PCM) incl navigation module with
universal audio interface
£ 2,141.00
UN1 Online services £ 122.00
Others A01 Third Year Porsche Assistance £ 169.00
W02 Third Year Warranty £ 660.00
Total price £ 71,490.00
OK, so there were a couple or three small extravagances in there, but it puts into perspective the prices quoted when the vehicles are being marketed/tested and the real world price when you spec one to, say, a similar spec to an F-Type Jag where most of the above comes as standard!
My AM has gone and I am driving the Freelander for now so I hope they hurry with my build!! (But do it well ;-)
additional spec for GTS over S:
+15hp
+10NM
Additional center radiator in front bumper
PASM/X73
PDLS
Tinted rear lights
PSE
Sport chrono
20" wheels
different front and rear bumpers
Sports Seats Plus
Sport Design Steering wheel
Full leather/alcantara interior
All for an additional £5844
Seems a good deal!
+15hp
+10NM
Additional center radiator in front bumper
PASM/X73
PDLS
Tinted rear lights
PSE
Sport chrono
20" wheels
different front and rear bumpers
Sports Seats Plus
Sport Design Steering wheel
Full leather/alcantara interior
All for an additional £5844
Seems a good deal!
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