WIll you still buy a GT4 if it's a 2l turbo

WIll you still buy a GT4 if it's a 2l turbo

Poll: WIll you still buy a GT4 if it's a 2l turbo

Total Members Polled: 137

yes I am happy with a 4 pot turbo: 17%
No, I wanted a NA 3.4/3.6/3.8 lump in it: 68%
Undecided atm: 15%
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mrdemon

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Wednesday 15th October 2014
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so that's the 4th insider 100% sure post !!!!

1: ecu tuned 3.4
2: 3.6 NA with 380 bhp
3: 3.8 NA from the 991
4: 4 pot turbo from any where 200bhp to 450 bhp lol at the 450bhp as the 2.5l 4 pot is said to do 380Bhp.

All these insiders need to get the story straight, as imo it's pie in the sky.

mrdemon

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Wednesday 15th October 2014
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forums are always full of "I'll buy it people"

It is a bit annoying.

IF people want a hard core Cayman though buy a Cayman R with no AC etc which can be had much cheaper, and mono ball the bugger.

you can get the car to 1250kg and 365bhp with ease and monoball sus bits, how hard core do you dreamers want it.

if they make a hard core Cayman GT4 there are about 3 buyers for it.

Again I have put my money where my mouth is and just over hauled the Spyder with solid mounts, engine mounts and Monoball toe arms etc.
it's quite a awesome drive now and you do it roof off ;-)

you don't have to buy £120k GT3's or wait for £85k (disappointing) GT4's to drive the best drivers cars available, £40k and £5k worth of tweaks will give you driving heaven.



Edited by mrdemon on Wednesday 15th October 15:27

mrdemon

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Wednesday 15th October 2014
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dom9 said:
Is there a separate thread/ build thread for this, David?

Sounds interesting and surprised you went that way i.e. going away from originality.
you have mail.

mrdemon

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Thursday 16th October 2014
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ORD said:
I don't really see the room for such a car. Why compromise an excellent road car to make something that will still be slow, expensive and heavy on track? Better to buy a £30k track car, in my view. It would pay for itself in brakes, clutches, etc in a few years!
I agree, and so do Porsche.

Making a road car into a track car ruins a road car and is still slow on track.

mrdemon

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Friday 17th October 2014
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You only have to look At the specs of Cayman R, Spyders, gt3 and the GTS to see a stripped out car would not sell.

No one speced a hard core Spyder, only the press cars.
No one speced hard core R's
Very very few club sport gt3
And the GTs market well , about 1 PH member with x73, buckets and manual.

as for a Cayman being a track car, it's quite poor, it rolls too much and has no ajustable lower control arms.

Like wise a GT3 on the whole make a poor road car, Porsche fitted PASM to later models and that's even worse on track.

You would not run a cup spec racer on the road would you ?

And you can make a R more hard core than what Porsche will ever bring out.

mrdemon

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Saturday 18th October 2014
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itsybitsy said:
MrD have you noticed all cayman Gts demo are x73!
.it would have been another Cayman if they did not do that
Does not mean people buy that spec, and most mags Poo pooed the x73 for road use until the GTS came out,
Some still do, the new EVo boxster gts said don't buy x73.

At least Porsche gave the option to have it which I guess is good.

But none of these cars work on track well until you put some GT3 LCA on them.
If the gt4 has fixed sus like every other Cayman it will be a joke.

mrdemon

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Saturday 18th October 2014
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Ac delete in a coupe is risky, but a no brainer in the open top Spyder concept.

PCM is a bit pants, it's not hard to find a track and every phone has nav for the 2 times you might use nav a year.

My gt4 will have to have AC but it will be manual if they let us have that choice. PCM in a gt4 that's a tough one, prob not
ESP if all the GT3 sports car bits are options, my money will be going into those,

There might be a track pack option, with big brakes and ajustable lca etc.

mrdemon

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Saturday 18th October 2014
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Carl_Docklands said:
If the new Cayman is even marginally better than the GTS we are in for a treat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71eCZ_GfXHo
I could get excited by the GTS if the standard Cayman did not have the x73 option, but it does, so the GTS is no better than a normal Cayman, the reviews seem to miss out the fact that a x73 is still a option on the GTS all be it free.

To then state a GTS is 1.2 seconds quicker is daft and misleading.

No shock the press cars have x73 is it !!! It's making every one look a mug. Not in buying the car, just in what is said, and ESP when GTS owners repeat it but then spec PASM !

you may as well buy a GTS over a normal Cayman I guess but it's not a better car than one.

Edited by mrdemon on Saturday 18th October 10:04

mrdemon

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Saturday 18th October 2014
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franki68 said:
If you are not interested in a car for whatever reason ,then why keep posting on a forum about it?

The only thing that would put me off is a 4 cylinder engine ,but that is very unlikely ,even if it was pdk only i wouldn't care,

The car will be epic,I trust porsche to produce an exciting car that can be used on the road or track,and no amount of naysayers on a forum will detract from that.
I started the thread , I can say what I like :-p, I also have my name on the GT4/R , I don't want it to be a GTS thread :-)

let's stick to facts, and the car may not be epic, it might be a 4 pot turbo with no sus adjustment, 355 bhp, small brakes and PDK only.

Looking at what Porsche make atm I don't trust them at all. The GTS was very clever marketing.

mrdemon

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Saturday 18th October 2014
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koorby said:
Well EVO mag love the GTS, they just end reviewed it in their iPad edition, gave it five stars and said the only thing they would do it remove X73 from it smile
which is reverse to the press cars and the other reviews all saying x73 made the car.

As is the norm, what one wants is not what every one wants.

mrdemon

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Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Hellers said:
Will this topic disappear up its own fundament if I post this?

"FOUR-CYLINDER CAYMAN AT THE NURBURGRING"

With video.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

Not known of course if this is a GT4 or not....
just a test car

There are vids of 3.6lNA cars also.

Flat 6 manual in that 1st Boxster, then the turbo cars testing after.
http://youtu.be/YXAibs8hNEM

they need to test the new turbo engines, but the GT4 is out sooner than later and the face lift 987.2 cars are a way off yet



Edited by mrdemon on Wednesday 22 October 17:17

mrdemon

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Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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anonymous said:
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who said they do ?

There are 3.6L cars tested, I am sure Porsche test loads of cars esp as the 987.2 dfi car was a 3.6L in the base model
they drop engines in all sorts of bodies to hide what they are testing.

and then I quoted
"Flat 6 manual in that 1st Boxster, then the turbo cars testing after.
http://youtu.be/YXAibs8hNEM

No mention of engine capacity about the vid.