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Is it winter closing in, have I turned soft or have it gone mad?
Found myself looking at a 997 Gen2, Targa 4S today. Silver, red interior, lots of options, extra leather etc.
Always liked the lines of them and they are a fairly uncommon sight.
........ But, a replacement for the Spyder?
It's that 911 itch going on, but I have a deep suspicion I would seriously regret getting rid. Got onto talk of a test drive, but I think I will hold back.
Found myself looking at a 997 Gen2, Targa 4S today. Silver, red interior, lots of options, extra leather etc.
Always liked the lines of them and they are a fairly uncommon sight.
........ But, a replacement for the Spyder?
It's that 911 itch going on, but I have a deep suspicion I would seriously regret getting rid. Got onto talk of a test drive, but I think I will hold back.
rob.kellock said:
Now 981 Spyder confirmed, I'm not so sure that's right.
They are getting so dear currently that other models are now better value for money. It's a bubble that may not last?
Not confirmed at all, and if one does come out it will be a 4 pot. Which will make the 2010 model rise even more. They are getting so dear currently that other models are now better value for money. It's a bubble that may not last?
I do think the car bubble will burst but the Spyder is not at the top of it yet, euro zone is worse off than the UK and Spyders are more than UK prices,
Spyders are under valued still looking at other rare cars. End of a era bespoke classic not affected by new cars, ( well in manual ) :-) gen 1 PDK is a bit rough round the edges vs the 981 gen 2pdk but a manual car is was it is and will not date.
Big price devide will happen imo. Like the tip tronic 993 vs manual 993.
rob.kellock said:
981 Spyder defo confirmed. Trust me.
where is the confirmation?some sales person who does not know what they are talking about as usual they are kept in the dark like the rest of us!even the much talked about gt4 might end up being an R.
imho any of last 9*7.2 are the cars that will be most sort after in years to come as we already know there is not much love for the 9*1.1 just take a look on the used opc website for confirmation!very few late low mileage 9*7.2 but 9*1.1 a plenty!
Hmmm... Think I was having one of those moments where a change seems like a good idea but not really thought through.
As much as I like the Targa I don't have that deep feeling/lust inside to swap the Spyder. I like the fact it is a bit different to the other 997s though and not a common choice.
My heads not telling me 100%... So where there is doubt, there is no doubt. No change.
But if I was going to scratch the 911 itch I think a 997 GTS (RWD) would be more my thing. Or forget about modern models and get a 993. If a 997 GTS was sat there at the same price point, right options, I would be having a very difficult decision to make.
As for the 981 Spyder, I've not picked up anything hinting at that yet. Even if it did come about, I don't think it would have that big effect on the 987 Spyder. I don't think a new one would be as daring with the roof solution or bodywork changes. The 987 will always be the original and with sales of that being relatively small I can see the next one being a dumbed down version of the concept. Looked at a Boxster GTS also today and that really did nothing for me. No desire to swap the Spyder with that.
As much as I like the Targa I don't have that deep feeling/lust inside to swap the Spyder. I like the fact it is a bit different to the other 997s though and not a common choice.
My heads not telling me 100%... So where there is doubt, there is no doubt. No change.
But if I was going to scratch the 911 itch I think a 997 GTS (RWD) would be more my thing. Or forget about modern models and get a 993. If a 997 GTS was sat there at the same price point, right options, I would be having a very difficult decision to make.
As for the 981 Spyder, I've not picked up anything hinting at that yet. Even if it did come about, I don't think it would have that big effect on the 987 Spyder. I don't think a new one would be as daring with the roof solution or bodywork changes. The 987 will always be the original and with sales of that being relatively small I can see the next one being a dumbed down version of the concept. Looked at a Boxster GTS also today and that really did nothing for me. No desire to swap the Spyder with that.
rob.kellock said:
As I said, trust me.
It's not from a salesman...
Trust me, I am from the internet. It's not from a salesman...
As for 987.2 Spyders, I agree that they are very special things but I might be biased because I'm looking for one of them. I recently saw one at a OPC, it was parked next to a brand new 981 Cayman GTS, 981 Boxster and a 997.2 C2S and all these other cars seemed to pale in comparison.
I can't put my finger on why, but the Spyder looks even more impressive in person and it feels much more "exotic" than it has any right to be. I think prices will stay firm even if a 981 Spyder comes out, simply because the 987.2 was a great car platform, arguably the last of its kind, but many Porsche collectors wouldn't want to be seen in a run-of-the-mill Boxster S (sorry) so the Spyder/CR will be the logical choice.
Edited by EricE on Monday 20th October 09:03
If there is sum truth in a spyder or cayman gt4/r coming next year then porsche must be doing away with a gen2 981 as they always save the specials to the end of the gen2.so it stands to reason that the next boxster/cayman will be the 982 with its new engine? Likewise I think the same can be said for the 991 becoming a 992.
Back to targa I think it's a nice looking car but top heavy and 4 wd and also the roof can have a few expensive issues. IMHO a nice c2s / Gts is a better sideways step from the spyder
Back to targa I think it's a nice looking car but top heavy and 4 wd and also the roof can have a few expensive issues. IMHO a nice c2s / Gts is a better sideways step from the spyder
itsybitsy said:
....Back to targa I think it's a nice looking car but top heavy and 4 wd and also the roof can have a few expensive issues. IMHO a nice c2s / Gts is a better sideways step from the spyder
Actually I think the gen2 targa is a bit more than a nice looking car, it's a great looking car! The only issue I have with the Spyder as anything more than a sunny weather, weekend toy is the roof. Just not every-day practical unless you keep it on - and then what's the point? Both my Spyder's were kept in the garage with the top off and used on sunny weekend drives. They're perfect for that.
DS240 said:
Is it winter closing in, have I turned soft or have it gone mad?
Found myself looking at a 997 Gen2, Targa 4S today. Silver, red interior, lots of options, extra leather etc.
Always liked the lines of them and they are a fairly uncommon sight.
........ But, a replacement for the Spyder?
It's that 911 itch going on, but I have a deep suspicion I would seriously regret getting rid. Got onto talk of a test drive, but I think I will hold back.
Does it have aluminium parts in the interior for PDK and handbrake?Found myself looking at a 997 Gen2, Targa 4S today. Silver, red interior, lots of options, extra leather etc.
Always liked the lines of them and they are a fairly uncommon sight.
........ But, a replacement for the Spyder?
It's that 911 itch going on, but I have a deep suspicion I would seriously regret getting rid. Got onto talk of a test drive, but I think I will hold back.
If so, could be the ex-Silverstone Demo?
Targa is a very rare sight on the road, its too heavy to be a direct replacement for the Spyder, very different drives.
EricE said:
Trust me, I am from the internet.
As for 987.2 Spyders, I agree that they are very special things but I might be biased because I'm looking for one of them. I recently saw one at a OPC, it was parked next to a brand new 981 Cayman GTS, 981 Boxster and a 997.2 C2S and all these other cars seemed to pale in comparison.
I can't put my finger on why, but the Spyder looks even more impressive in person and it feels much more "exotic" than it has any right to be. I think prices will stay firm even if a 981 Spyder comes out, simply because the 987.2 was a great car platform, arguably the last of its kind, but many Porsche collectors wouldn't want to be seen in a run-of-the-mill Boxster S (sorry) so the Spyder/CR will be the logical choice.
Just to echo this really..As for 987.2 Spyders, I agree that they are very special things but I might be biased because I'm looking for one of them. I recently saw one at a OPC, it was parked next to a brand new 981 Cayman GTS, 981 Boxster and a 997.2 C2S and all these other cars seemed to pale in comparison.
I can't put my finger on why, but the Spyder looks even more impressive in person and it feels much more "exotic" than it has any right to be. I think prices will stay firm even if a 981 Spyder comes out, simply because the 987.2 was a great car platform, arguably the last of its kind, but many Porsche collectors wouldn't want to be seen in a run-of-the-mill Boxster S (sorry) so the Spyder/CR will be the logical choice.
Edited by EricE on Monday 20th October 09:03
I think I would regret selling the Spyder on right now. Having something like the Targa or a GTS would give me something I'd likely use more of the time, but I'd have that nagging feeling I'd lost something special.
For the money, I just don't know what offers the driving thrills/purity, rarity, uniqueness. It's not a simple options special with the bodywork changes and roof.
It does punch above the weight of the 'humble' boxster roots with how special it feels.
Carl_Docklands said:
Does it have aluminium parts in the interior for PDK and handbrake?
If so, could be the ex-Silverstone Demo?
Targa is a very rare sight on the road, its too heavy to be a direct replacement for the Spyder, very different drives.
I don't think it would be one of the same. It's based in Jersey and I've seen it on the roads over the years.If so, could be the ex-Silverstone Demo?
Targa is a very rare sight on the road, its too heavy to be a direct replacement for the Spyder, very different drives.
It's 2010, 9500 miles, up for 45k.
However it has been on the forecourt for ages now. Salesman says it won't shift because it is manual.
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