981 Spyder confirmed
Discussion
EricE said:
A shame we won't hear any details and prices until April. I'm curious how significantly this will affect 987.2 Spyder prices. I wanted to pick one up soon-ish but guess I'll have to wait now.
I would not worry too much about 987 spyder prices !Has the 991 gt3 damaged the value of the 997 gt3?
No one knows if it's built what engine it might have,could be a 2 litre twin turbo!
Also if said car is built going to cost circa £70k ish when specd up!
Just think boxster 981 Gts on a diet
IMHO It will only strengthen the current spyder value long term!
itsybitsy said:
I would not worry too much about 987 spyder prices !
Has the 991 gt3 damaged the value of the 997 gt3?
No one knows if it's built what engine it might have,could be a 2 litre twin turbo!
Also if said car is built going to cost circa £70k ish when specd up!
Just think boxster 981 Gts on a diet
IMHO It will only strengthen the current spyder value long term!
Hmm, 2 litre twin turbo sounds very unlikely because based on the timeline it will clearly be a 981.1 and not a 981.2. It seems highly unlikely that we'll ever see a 4-cylinder 981.1 due to packaging issues.Has the 991 gt3 damaged the value of the 997 gt3?
No one knows if it's built what engine it might have,could be a 2 litre twin turbo!
Also if said car is built going to cost circa £70k ish when specd up!
Just think boxster 981 Gts on a diet
IMHO It will only strengthen the current spyder value long term!
Not sure if the 991/997 GT3 comparison holds water but I suppose there is a little bit of truth in it (electrical/hydraulical steering).
On the other hand who is to say that it won't have the same 3.6/3.8 engine as the GT4?
In that case they would have to price it well above the GTS which is already quite expensive compared to a used 987.2 Spyder.
If it really will be £70k then I don't think there will be a market for it... might as well go GT4 at that pricepoint? It's all speculation anyway.
I don't think a 981.1 Spyder will destroy the old Spyder's residuals but prices will definitely soften up in winter/spring IMO.
itsybitsy said:
No opc would give out this info to be broadcast over the net!! Yet again pure speculation! I have spoken to more than one opc and non would slip any confirmed details on either cayman gt4 / spyder but will take loi but that does not confirm a built car!
My OPC tells me more than yours then as does the OP's OPC ;-)not speculation at all.
mrdemon said:
My OPC tells me more than yours then as does the OP's OPC ;-)
not speculation at all.
mr d i have spoken to a number of opc and no one is confirming or denying anything to both the spyder and gt4 being made.one thing they do confirm is internet speculation!not speculation at all.
one thing i did get confirmed is porsche will release more new models each year than ever before.
no employee is going to risk their job before an embargo date are they?so they would not say a spyder or a gt4 is definetly coming in the next year
Edited by itsybitsy on Wednesday 29th October 17:19
rob.kellock said:
It's not just internet speculation - you mustn't have made it into "the circle of trust" 
does make me laugh when some opc are already screwing deposits out of customers for a non exsitent car that if built will be available to the masses and not a limited run!also some have been told/informed it will be a 3.8 others a 3.4 some a flat 4 twin turbo!i was even leaked it could be a hybrid like the 918;)
so glad i am not in "the circle of misinformation" to drum up even more internet hype!porsche must love all this free advertising or is this what they learned on the marketing course!
Nothing is hype or miss info or non exsitent , they should not be taking deposits but I guess some Dealers are not as good as others.
OPC don't have full specs on cars, but they have to have numbers as they need to place orders of cars etc
They know the cars, Dates and numbers of Both the GT4 and Spyder as do a few people on here.
Some OPC's will tell you and some people will then post the info on here like the OP did.
Yesterday the GT4 numbers were posted and I am sure Spyder numbers will follow of which a load of people know, just not you it seems ;-p
As Rob said the recent Porsche marketing course for OPCs has been and gone and they all know what's coming.
Specs on the other hand is much harder to come by,and your OPC will be last to know that info.
OPC don't have full specs on cars, but they have to have numbers as they need to place orders of cars etc
They know the cars, Dates and numbers of Both the GT4 and Spyder as do a few people on here.
Some OPC's will tell you and some people will then post the info on here like the OP did.
Yesterday the GT4 numbers were posted and I am sure Spyder numbers will follow of which a load of people know, just not you it seems ;-p
As Rob said the recent Porsche marketing course for OPCs has been and gone and they all know what's coming.
Specs on the other hand is much harder to come by,and your OPC will be last to know that info.
Edited by mrdemon on Wednesday 29th October 18:50
Seems a bit strange that they would release GT4 and Spyder in such rapid succession.
I'd love to know if this will be another "real Spyder", i.e. improved upon the 987.2 version or more like a 987.1 Spyder RS60, i.e. Boxster S with limited numbers and a few bits but a pure marketing affair otherwise.
If the schedule is really April 2015 for the reveal and late 2015 for delivery then we should have seen some prototypes by now, no?
I'd love to know if this will be another "real Spyder", i.e. improved upon the 987.2 version or more like a 987.1 Spyder RS60, i.e. Boxster S with limited numbers and a few bits but a pure marketing affair otherwise.
If the schedule is really April 2015 for the reveal and late 2015 for delivery then we should have seen some prototypes by now, no?
Edited by EricE on Wednesday 29th October 19:42
itsybitsy said:
No opc would give out this info to be broadcast over the net!! Yet again pure speculation! I have spoken to more than one opc and non would slip any confirmed details on either cayman gt4 / spyder but will take loi but that does not confirm a built car!
Think what you like, they got confirmation on dates yesterday. It makes no odds to me. They were quite happy to divulge what was fact and what was not.The GT4 is coming earlier, not for me, but I'm sure he said March for deliveries.
Granted no further details on the actual car, so what, it's coming and sooner than most people think. Makes perfect sense to get cars to customer during the Summer.
rob.kellock said:
It's not just internet speculation - you mustn't have made it into "the circle of trust"
Your OPC is clearly very discreet!
There has been a recent Porsche marketing course for OPCs where various new product launches were canvassed...
Exactly, and those dates are being given to customers.Your OPC is clearly very discreet!
There has been a recent Porsche marketing course for OPCs where various new product launches were canvassed...
EricE said:
Seems a bit strange that they would release GT4 and Spyder in such rapid succession.
I'd love to know if this will be another "real Spyder", i.e. improved upon the 987.2 version or more like a 987.1 Spyder RS60, i.e. Boxster S with limited numbers and a few bits but a pure marketing affair otherwise.
If the schedule is really April 2015 for the reveal and late 2015 for delivery then we should have seen some prototypes by now, no?
The mule for the spyder would be a Boxster, not sure they'd want to be so obvious this time round.I'd love to know if this will be another "real Spyder", i.e. improved upon the 987.2 version or more like a 987.1 Spyder RS60, i.e. Boxster S with limited numbers and a few bits but a pure marketing affair otherwise.
If the schedule is really April 2015 for the reveal and late 2015 for delivery then we should have seen some prototypes by now, no?
Edited by EricE on Wednesday 29th October 19:42
The customer is expecting a Spyder and that's what I was told they were going to deliver.
You can bet though that it'll be the last flat 6 manual from them though.
JPF40 said:
The mule for the spyder would be a Boxster, not sure they'd want to be so obvious this time round.
The customer is expecting a Spyder and that's what I was told they were going to deliver.
You can bet though that it'll be the last flat 6 manual from them though.
Well, I am a potential customer and when I hear "new Spyder" I don't necessarily expect another fiddly fabric roof. The more obvious solution in my eyes would be a two-part carbon roof, similar to the 918 Spyder. It would be much more practical and so much quieter too.The customer is expecting a Spyder and that's what I was told they were going to deliver.
You can bet though that it'll be the last flat 6 manual from them though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKVe6QVMGts
EricE said:
Well, I am a potential customer and when I hear "new Spyder" I don't necessarily expect another fiddly fabric roof. The more obvious solution in my eyes would be a two-part carbon roof, similar to the 918 Spyder. It would be much more practical and so much quieter too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKVe6QVMGts
That would be nice, the hassle is still there. I only took the panels off my CGT every now and then for fear of damaging them!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKVe6QVMGts
It would be a better soliution though, especially at speed
I find it laughable that people think they are on the 'inside' if an OPC has told them something.
Judging my OPC, they'll be told about stuff when the public do and have scant details prior to that.
What is even worse, is people won't just repeat what they have been told. This isn't top secret level stuff. If OPC does know something, the info is out. And it is out because Porsche is ready to start having the info out. Whether that then spreads makes no difference to anything.. Why do you think they know!
Judging my OPC, they'll be told about stuff when the public do and have scant details prior to that.
What is even worse, is people won't just repeat what they have been told. This isn't top secret level stuff. If OPC does know something, the info is out. And it is out because Porsche is ready to start having the info out. Whether that then spreads makes no difference to anything.. Why do you think they know!
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