Pdk paddles can they be reversed ?

[JeffC]

am I on my own in thinking the paddles on a PDK box are backside first ? my natural reaction to go up a gear is pull back and its the one gripe I have about my car, was driving up over Hartside Pass yesterday and during a spirtited drive I kept pulling back to upshift, just wondering if its possible to reverse the action ?

[Johnthepotter]

Don't understand. If you have paddles, the left one is for down shifts, the right one for upshifts. In both instances you pull towards you. Do you mean buttons mounted on steering wheel? If so, I doubt that they can be changed.

[mrmr96]

John, some cars have pull/push for up/down (or down/up).
I don't see why the wiring couldnt be reversed behind the scenes. Get a sparky to swap the leads to the switches over to reverse their functions. Seems easy?

[RBT0]

Gents, by the way is it possible to engage the neutral by pulling both paddles at the same time (CGTS...not in my hands yet, so asking)?

[nsm3]

I think he is talking about the "gear stick"?

On the GT3 it is indeed the correct way, pull back for a higher gear, push forward for lower.

I got used to it after about 2k miles.

[DS240]

RBT0 said:

Gents, by the way is it possible to engage the neutral by pulling both paddles at the same time (CGTS...not in my hands yet, so asking)?

I think that function is available on the GT3, but not on the other PDK boxes. I could have completely misread the article though a while back.

I've never heard of paddles behind the steering wheel that you'd push away from you (except some racing cars). Isn't it pull only and left and right either does up or down gears.

The buttons were a cause for annoyance as being 'the wrong way around'. Isn't up a gear push button forward and down press back? Hence paddles quickly introduced.

[klootzak]

JeffC said:

am I on my own in thinking the paddles on a PDK box are backside first ?... just wondering if its possible to reverse the action ?

If you're talking about the shift buttons on the standard steering wheel rather than the paddles on the sport wheel, then no you are not the only one. They are bloody irritating.

You can rewire to reverse the right-hand button so you pull it to change up, but it isn't easy.

See here ... http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-boxster-modific...

The other option is to get the sport steering wheel or the Tech-art paddle shift kit ( http://www.sharkwerks.com/products.php?pid=274 ), either way it's going to cost you about £650 I'd imagine.

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[RichB]

I must be in the minority who likes (indeed prefers) the PDK rocker buttons over the paddles. They seem logical to me, took no more than 5 mins to get used to and I like the fact that I can shift with either hand on either side.

[BGHughes]

Because I prefer the 10 to 2 hand position, the buttons were always out of reach for me.
So I chose the sports wheel with the paddles

I still very rarely use them, I find using the gear lever more enjoyable

Sounds like an expensive fix to reverse the buttons, and probably invalidate the warranty. Might it even be classed as a modification by insurance companies?

[JeffC]

yes Im referring to the steering wheel gear controls on the Gen2 car,I call it a paddle but the upshift (push forward button) just feels like a push button .


the gearstick manual change is also backside first so I dont go near that!




I have driven sequential track/ race cars for over 10 years and all with gearstick have been pull back to go up , Mrs C has a 335D beemer and that is the same , so jumping into this car it just all seems sooooooooo wrong especially when you are making progress on backroads.

I really like the look of the sports steering wheel linked above especially if its smaller as I find the wheel on my car too big, its like steering a bus .

Edited by JeffC on Monday 3rd November 21:41

[RichB]

We must be very odd Before buying the 981 PDK we tested the new BMW 428 Convertible (actually wanted to test the 435 but they couldn't find one ) Neither of us liked it and thought the paddles felt cheap and tacky - bought the Porsche.

[BGHughes]

Well I've learnt something at least, I never knew a 'normal' sequential worked the opposite way

Porsche do things differently it seems

[JeffC]

reading through that linked thread it is possible then to have pull back right to go up and pull back left for downshift.

from the thread..





I think you can do this by re-arranging the wiring of the 8 & 4 pin plugs on the RHS board, without any work on the LHS board as follows:

Connector A – 8 cables
1=? 2=Ground 3=? 4=? 5=? 6=Downshift (pull) 7=Upshift (push) 8=?

Remove wire connected to Pin 6 of connector A.
Remove wire connected to Pin 7 of connector A & install in Pin 6 slot of connector A
(enables upshift function for pull of RHS button only).
Note: There will be no wire in Pin 7 of connector A, effectively disabling “push” functionality of RHS button.

Connector B – 4 cables
1=Ground 2=Light Power? 3=Downshift (pull) 4=Upshift (push)

Remove wire connected to Pin 3 of connector B & connect to wire removed from Pin 6 of connector A & insulate (enables downshift function for pull of LHS button only).
Remove wire connected to Pin 4 of connector B & insulate (effectively disabling “push” functionality of LHS button).

[Johnthepotter]

Hi Jeff, from your picture I see you are talking about the steering wheel mountred buttons. The paddles (which I have) are actually behind the wheel and operate as I indicated.

Rich B - as well as my PDK Spyder, I have a BMW 328 with the sport gearbox and paddle shifts. I find them very similar to the porsche. What confuses the hell out of me though is changing gear via the "gear stick" - Porsche, forward to change up, back to change down, BMW forward to change down, back to change up. Now that IS confusing!!

[VladD]

BGHughes said:

Well I've learnt something at least, I never knew a 'normal' sequential worked the opposite way

Porsche do things differently it seems

On my old BMW 750, using the gear stick, it was push to change up and pull to change down. Just felt wrong.

[Magic919]

DS240 said:

RBT0 said:

Gents, by the way is it possible to engage the neutral by pulling both paddles at the same time (CGTS...not in my hands yet, so asking)?

I think that function is available on the GT3, but not on the other PDK boxes. I could have completely misread the article though a while back.

All the 981s I've driven do this. Can be handy at the lights, as the car stops dragging forward. The gear indicator flashes from what I recall, rather than showing N.

It's not the same feature as the GT3's hooligan mode.

[hondansx]

The GT3 is an admission that previously Porsche have got it all wrong! Not only does it have 'proper' paddles by default, the 'stick' also is push forward to go down a gear, unlike the standard tiptronic and PDK cars.

Have to say, it is confusing jumping from one Porsche to the other! I also have race cars with sequentials and, as such, am not a fan of the Gen 2 997 PDK buttons. In fact, my Christmas present to myself is to get the Sportdesign paddleshift wheel in alcantara.

[RBT0]

Magic919 said:

DS240 said:

RBT0 said:

Gents, by the way is it possible to engage the neutral by pulling both paddles at the same time (CGTS...not in my hands yet, so asking)?

I think that function is available on the GT3, but not on the other PDK boxes. I could have completely misread the article though a while back.

All the 981s I've driven do this. Can be handy at the lights, as the car stops dragging forward. The gear indicator flashes from what I recall, rather than showing N.

It's not the same feature as the GT3's hooligan mode.

Thanks!
So anytime I want...pull them together and Neutral is done.

Could you explain to me the differences with GT3 PDK aka hooligan mode?

[Magic919]

The GT3 gives the effect of dipping the clutch. So, whilst on the move, you can pull both paddles, give it some revs and 'drop the clutch'.

[RBT0]

Ok clear, it disengage the clutch, which actually is the best thing to do.

Well, coming back to the 981 PDK, wonder if it is possible to do a gear change by mistake rather than engaging the N, I mean how should I approach the manouvre, I guess not always is possible to pull both paddle exactly at the same time, there should be a kind of tolerance....

Any video, too interested in seeing it in action.