How hard is it to find a decent Cayman R??

[Sarnie]

Looking for a White, Red or Peridot Cayman R, with PCM.

Anyone selling up any time soon?? PM me!!

[gsewell]

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

[n17ves]

Not hard if there is a big enough offer on the table

The Cayman R is very desirable at the moment, I've recently had 3 ppl off pistonheads asking me when I'm selling mine!

[a4ash]

There's always 8-10 available on here, I've been looking at them for a while. They seemed to hit £40k and have stayed put for ages now. I've no idea whether they will go up in time or down but my dilemma is £40k also buys a 997.1 turbo which was a childhood bedroom wall poster dream. Decisions decisions........

[V8KSN]

Sarnie said:

Looking for a White, Red or Peridot Cayman R, with PCM.

Anyone selling up any time soon?? PM me!!

Cant help with the search I'm afraid but I am curious as to why you want one.

What will you use the car for? Daily driving duties or weekend warrior?

I only ask because the Cayman R may not be the car for you (it wasn't for me) When I test drove one a while back I found it lacking in so many areas (especially power) so I bought a GT3 instead.

There are lots of Cayman R fanboys on here though, don't let them swing you into buying a car that is wrong for your planned usage.

[Sarnie]

gsewell said:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Been to see that one..........fairly significant damage/chip to the rear quarter.......first and only service was done 18 months late......and I'm fairly sure it was a PEC demonstrator for 18 months before the last owner bought it.....

[Sarnie]

n17ves said:

Not hard if there is a big enough offer on the table

The Cayman R is very desirable at the moment, I've recently had 3 ppl off pistonheads asking me when I'm selling mine!

PM me then if you're selling!

[Sarnie]

a4ash said:

There's always 8-10 available on here, I've been looking at them for a while. They seemed to hit £40k and have stayed put for ages now. I've no idea whether they will go up in time or down but my dilemma is £40k also buys a 997.1 turbo which was a childhood bedroom wall poster dream. Decisions decisions........

I'm not interest in a 911 at all really.

I've been watching the classifieds and most of the cars listed started at speculative figures of £42k-£45k and nearly all have retraced back to £40k or below.

The red car linked above was £43k a month or so ago.

The red car at Redline was £45k and is now £41k

There's a Peridot car that was £39.5k and is now £38.5k......

I'm prepared to pay good money for a good car, I just can't find one!!

[Sarnie]

V8KSN said:

Cant help with the search I'm afraid but I am curious as to why you want one.

What will you use the car for? Daily driving duties or weekend warrior?

I only ask because the Cayman R may not be the car for you (it wasn't for me) When I test drove one a while back I found it lacking in so many areas (especially power) so I bought a GT3 instead.

There are lots of Cayman R fanboys on here though, don't let them swing you into buying a car that is wrong for your planned usage.

It would be purely weekend driving!

[mrdemon]

V8KSN said:

Cant help with the search I'm afraid but I am curious as to why you want one.

What will you use the car for? Daily driving duties or weekend warrior?

I only ask because the Cayman R may not be the car for you (it wasn't for me) When I test drove one a while back I found it lacking in so many areas (especially power) so I bought a GT3 instead.

There are lots of Cayman R fanboys on here though, don't let them swing you into buying a car that is wrong for your planned usage.

I see what you did there ;-)

The thing is the car works for Daily driving duties or weekend warrior !
the luggage space is hugh, the weekend warrior works, and you can use it every day no issue, it's a fully usable Road sports car in the low tax band and can do 30mpg on that week end trip away.

None of this race car for the road bks which is so far from the truth it pains me.

Lack of power ! that's a tough one, the cars >250bhp/ton and a 10 second 100mph car, may be on the back Spa straight you could do with more :-)

with people saying the basic cars are now too fast for the road, the R has plenty of power and of course reaches is peak torque 1500 rpm lower than other so called cars which I call accessable power :-) The GT3 is NOT a fast car, a Turbo is a fast car , a GTR is a fast car, the GT3 bar the 991 GT3 is not really a fast car in that respect of wanting a really fast car.

So please do better and come up with some valid points to help buyers (put off buyers) because that was just a fail and just stinks of my GT3 posts ;-)

But instead of name calling and telling you to leave or worse personal abuse, I thought it best to back up what was said in a normal matter.

I also don't mind the fanboy comment, I am a fan of the car and male. Cannot work out why "fanboy upsets other insecure people"
My girlfriend would also say I was a car "fanboy"


"A (usually, male) fan who is obsessive about a particular subject"

[V8KSN]

mrdemon said:

V8KSN said:

Cant help with the search I'm afraid but I am curious as to why you want one.

What will you use the car for? Daily driving duties or weekend warrior?

I only ask because the Cayman R may not be the car for you (it wasn't for me) When I test drove one a while back I found it lacking in so many areas (especially power) so I bought a GT3 instead.

There are lots of Cayman R fanboys on here though, don't let them swing you into buying a car that is wrong for your planned usage.

I see what you did there ;-)

The thing is the car works for Daily driving duties or weekend warrior !
the luggage space is hugh, the weekend warrior works, and you can use it every day no issue, it's a fully usable Road sports car in the low tax band and can do 30mpg on that week end trip away.

None of this race car for the road bks which is so far from the truth it pains me.

Lack of power ! that's a tough one, the cars >250bhp/ton and a 10 second 100mph car, may be on the back Spa straight you could do with more :-)

with people saying the basic cars are now too fast for the road, the R has plenty of power and of course reaches is peak torque 1500 rpm lower than other so called cars which I call accessable power :-) The GT3 is NOT a fast car, a Turbo is a fast car , a GTR is a fast car, the GT3 bar the 991 GT3 is not really a fast car in that respect of wanting a really fast car.

So please do better and come up with some valid points to help buyers (put off buyers) because that was just a fail and just stinks of my GT3 posts ;-)

But instead of name calling and telling you to leave or worse personal abuse, I thought it best to back up what was said in a normal matter.

I also don't mind the fanboy comment, I am a fan of the car and male. Cannot work out why "fanboy upsets other insecure people"
My girlfriend would also say I was a car "fanboy"


"A (usually, male) fan who is obsessive about a particular subject"

I wasn't speaking to you, the question was for the OP.

[mrdemon]

It's a CC of my GT3 posts, let's not even pretend it's anything else.

The difference is, I'll back up both sides of the story, :-)

I don't mind it, as I will not resort in name calling or even get tired of it, but will just repost and ask for the reason some one would say what they have said.

The R has quite a few issues, mostly for track work it is lacking in quite a few area's, but on the road you are going to have to come up with a better line for putting people off. saying that every thing I would change on the R for track people also change on the GT3.

[V8KSN]

Sarnie said:

V8KSN said:

Cant help with the search I'm afraid but I am curious as to why you want one.

What will you use the car for? Daily driving duties or weekend warrior?

I only ask because the Cayman R may not be the car for you (it wasn't for me) When I test drove one a while back I found it lacking in so many areas (especially power) so I bought a GT3 instead.

There are lots of Cayman R fanboys on here though, don't let them swing you into buying a car that is wrong for your planned usage.

It would be purely weekend driving!

Nice toy for the weekend

They are great cars (if a little too easy to drive) I would highly recommend you take one out for a test drive on the roads you plan to use the car on. I think bucket seats are sought after but they don't suit all body types. Also, I would (personally) ignore all cars without air conditioning as the weight saving is negligible but the impact on driver and passenger comfort is huge.

Also, without air con you may have trouble selling the car in the future!

[Sarnie]

V8KSN said:

Nice toy for the weekend

They are great cars (if a little too easy to drive) I would highly recommend you take one out for a test drive on the roads you plan to use the car on. I think bucket seats are sought after but they don't suit all body types. Also, I would (personally) ignore all cars without air conditioning as the weight saving is negligible but the impact on driver and passenger comfort is huge.

Also, without air con you may have trouble selling the car in the future!

Thanks!

My only must have is PCM, everything else is up for debate to be honest! I'd prefer a white car, black spyders, aircon, buckets, SS, PSE but I'm flexible on all of the above.

There was a manual Peridot car at Glasgow OPC that was almost perfect, but no PCM. I know insisting on PCM probably isn't for the purists, but I want it!!

[V8KSN]

Sarnie said:

Thanks!

My only must have is PCM, everything else is up for debate to be honest! I'd prefer a white car, black spyders, aircon, buckets, SS, PSE but I'm flexible on all of the above.

There was a manual Peridot car at Glasgow OPC that was almost perfect, but no PCM. I know insisting on PCM probably isn't for the purists, but I want it!!

Have you seen this one? http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Also, have you contacted the independents like JZM, 911v and RSJ etc to ask them to source you one? Could be worth a try.

[mrdemon]

V8KSN said:

They are great cars (if a little too easy to drive)

please expand on this ;-)

I would say a GT3 is easier to drive,(and I have many reasons why I think this, which I can list if you like) but I am interested to hear why you think a Cayman is easier to drive.

serious question btw.

[Sarnie]

V8KSN said:

Have you seen this one? http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Also, have you contacted the independents like JZM, 911v and RSJ etc to ask them to source you one? Could be worth a try.

Yep, no PCM!

You might be right about the independents........

[mrdemon]

they never pop up at the main indies I find, or if they do they are sold In a day.
Most are SOR

you are better off putting your name with a few OPC's, many cayman R owners will part ex their cars for a GT4 come Feb/March

this will either drive up prices of the R if the GT4 is not as good as people want, or at least stay stable as for £40k nothing to touch them.
I see the R as a slow burner in price, a bit like the 964RS was, it will be a great sort after car one day... but today it's a bargin.

I wish I could keep mine, but I am going to take the GT4 risk, or I might defer my name on the OPC list for a 2016 car yet...

[Sarnie]

Just spoke to RSJ who said they don't have anything currently, although they sold a yellow car in the summer....which seems to be this car;

http://www.drive24.co.uk/hertfordshire/VehicleDeta...

A bit of googling, confirms that it's this car;

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_418535-Porsche-Cayman...

Being drifted around a track by the TV programme Fifth Gear.........lol

It also seems to be this car;

http://motorcloud.net/2011-cayman-r-driving-event/

Which is at the PEC? Which leads me to the conclusion that it was one of the Demo cars at PEC and has probably had a hard life!!

Anyway, called the owner and it has no PCM or aircon..............the searcch continues!

[OldBob]

V8KSN said:

Nice toy for the weekend

They are great cars (if a little too easy to drive) I would highly recommend you take one out for a test drive on the roads you plan to use the car on. I think bucket seats are sought after but they don't suit all body types. Also, I would (personally) ignore all cars without air conditioning as the weight saving is negligible but the impact on driver and passenger comfort is huge.

Also, without air con you may have trouble selling the car in the future!

I thought the air con missing on my lads would be a real issue, but actually it hasn't proven to be that big a deal over the couple of years he had it now.
Maybe if it was used as regularly as a rainy morning fogged up DD or mid summer motorway queue attendee I'd think differently
As an enthusiastic driver weekender / track / sports car it's right up there imo.

I don't quite understand the easy to drive comment either, unless it's a nod toward the "only driving gods can handle a GT3/911 - properly" mantra lol.

Re the seats I was in a 991 GT3 at a trackday recently and I think they are identical aren't they?

and for those interested in doing so, bung a bit more hp, change brakes and geometry and they hang with the big boys on track easily.

Edited by OldBob on Friday 21st November 12:08